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SanDiego1K May 11, 2025 5:36 pm

A little more than 2 weeks out from FRA-LAX and Prime Seating is $500. At what point might I expect it to drop to sub $300?

lotterhansa May 11, 2025 5:45 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 37079960)
A little more than 2 weeks out from FRA-LAX and Prime Seating is $500. At what point might I expect it to drop to sub $300?

Depends on the actual and anticipated load.
I've seen some flights dropping a week prior, I've seen other flights where it went up less than a week prior. I've seen flights where the price of the Prime Seat did not change.

My gut-feeling based on flights in the past: if all four seats are empty and Business has still a 9+ availability, the price will quite likely drop.
If less than 4 Prime Seats are free and availability of Business is <9, then it does not necessarily drop.

EDIT: at around ~4 days prior to the flight, you'd have to use the hotline to check for the price as the website will no longer show it.
If, during App/Online Check-in, prime seats show up at $0, then the check-in will most likely not succeed as, technically, these seats are blocked. Since agents in Frankfurt usually need to reach out to a Condor rep to get it unblocked, I don't know if a Check-in agent at another airport would be able to sell it to you upon check-in.

SanDiego1K May 11, 2025 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by lotterhansa (Post 37079977)
My gut-feeling based on flights in the past: if all four seats are empty and Business has still a 9+ availability, the price will quite likely drop.
If less than 4 Prime Seats are free and availability of Business is <9, then it does not necessarily drop.

I appreciate your knowledgeable contributions on this thread. I've just checked the seat map. Your guidelines indicate it is unlikely to drop. It's good to set my expectations. I just don't see Prime as being worth $500/seat.

JHIN May 11, 2025 6:04 pm

I've not flown Condor so what is meant by Prime Seating? Is that found on seatguru or aerolopa then? Thx

SanDiego1K May 11, 2025 6:08 pm


Originally Posted by JHIN (Post 37080002)
I've not flown Condor so what is meant by Prime Seating?

Lucky describes it here:
https://onemileatatime.com/insights/...s-class-seats/

lotterhansa May 11, 2025 9:59 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 37079989)
I just don't see Prime as being worth $500/seat.

Same here.
Prices I paid in the past: 299, 249, and 199 (at Check-in at the airport) €/$

An additional datapoint:
SFO-FRA (05/18) for quite some time now on 999€ (1 Prime Seat left, 6 Business seats available)

lotterhansa May 11, 2025 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by JHIN (Post 37080002)
I've not flown Condor so what is meant by Prime Seating? Is that found on seatguru or aerolopa then? Thx

First row in the A330-neo.
Bigger seat space, bigger display, 2nd person can sit (and e.g. eat) on the Ottoman.
You get a snack basket, WiFi voucher and a pajama.

Ilove2fly May 12, 2025 8:05 am


Originally Posted by bhomburg (Post 37077933)
Paid add-on services will not be refunded when you upgrade. The German-language website has clear verbiage to that extent (*Bitte beachten Sie, dass bereits in Ihrer ursprünglichen Reiseklasse bezahlte Zusatzleistungen bei einem Upgrade nicht erstattet werden können" which is completely missing in the English version.
I would wait with purchasing add-on services like extra baggage or seat reservations until you have monitored upgrade pricing .
Generally, advance upgrades are more expensive than OLCI offers, upgrades at check-in are cheaper still ,and the cheapest option is using seatboost.

Keep in mind that AS miles will not be awarded according to upgraded cabin but strictly to original ticket, except you upgrade in advance by paying the fare difference and your ticket will be reissued in business/PE. PE earns 100% miles with Mileage Plan , Economy half or a quarter of that unless you buy via alaskaair.com. I would always buy Condor transatlantic flights on Alaska's site to ensure better mileage earning. Prices should be identical.

If you speak German, here's Condor upgrade pricing discussed in a German frequent flyer forum: https://www.vielfliegertreff.de/foru...rungen.160314/

Thank you very much. My only problem is that the Condor flights I want to book does not appear on Alaska website. Am I doing something wrong?

mlondon May 12, 2025 10:17 am

Just flew from SFO-FRA in the Prime seats. My wife and I had the two middle front row seats. Some thoughts:
- We paid $300 each. Good value at that price, but on the return they wanted $600 each
- Very nice to have the privacy screen between the two seats down so we could be next to each other during the flight. (but far from say the read-facing Qatar suite where there is no divider at all!)
- The extra foot space was a big plus, I'm 194 cm tall and have big feet so both lounging and sleeping were more comfortable.
- That said, when sleeping the upper part of the seat shell around my head/shoulder/torse is still quite narrow. I had a similar seat on Starlux recently and less than impressed.
- Pajamas were 100% organic cotton and very comfortable. No sweaty polyester.
- Food was solid. Not fancy, not but very adequate.
- Service was good, but very low-key, not overly fawning as one receives on many Asian carriers. Maybe it is just the German way.
- The lack of overhead bins above these two seats made it feel very spacious.
- The one downside is that it is next to galley, there are no privacy screens, and a fair bit of foot traffic from both FA and passengers using the lavatory. So not really a mini-First Class experience.
- The two individual front row seats on either side of the aircraft seemed nicer, more private and an even bigger foot space.

Overall I'd say entirely worthwhile at $300 or less, and maybe not worth it for more than that unless you are tall and with big feet with me in which case it is worth not having my legs tortured, just my upper torso!

Aussienarelle May 12, 2025 10:23 am


Originally Posted by mlondon (Post 37081323)
- Pajamas were 100% organic cotton and very comfortable. No sweaty polyester.

This would be nearly enough for me to fly them versus UA which uses recycled plastics and although I am all for helping the environment the UA pyjamas are horrible for flying, although my one bad experience with Condor is enough for me to never fly them, but the pyjamas!

bhomburg May 12, 2025 1:34 pm

The most seamless way to pay the least for prime seats would be on ex-FRA flights where you can go to the airport ticketing cubicle (T1, HallC) . I have made good experiences with them, paid EUR199 for a prime seat (to BKK). Also, you can do this onboard. Can't hurt to ask.
Condor needs a frequent flyer program.
Now that they were forced (losing the legal battle w. LH re:feeder flights) to expand and get their own domestic/shorthaul network up and running, I hope they will follow through with this expansion strategy and become an LH competitor, hopefully with better management than AB back in the day. LH needs some serious competition......

lotterhansa May 12, 2025 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by bhomburg (Post 37081779)
Condor needs a frequent flyer program.

You can use AS or EK.


Originally Posted by bhomburg (Post 37081779)
Now that they were forced (losing the legal battle w. LH re:feeder flights)

I'm not following. - European Commission has forced LH to reinstate the SPA with Condor.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres...l/en/ip_25_260

bhomburg May 13, 2025 4:43 pm

EK and AS FFPs are only good for earning/redeeming points on Condor. Recognition of status benefits - nope.
And Condor now has a fleet of brand-new shorthaul A32x doing domestic flights - they did this becasue it's cheaper than paying LH for their feeder flights. Flew half-empty aircraft between HAM and FRA multiple times this year...

SanDiego1K May 25, 2025 1:00 am

XL seats on Condor for a flight 4 days out have dropped to $249.99. Unfortunately I've been unable to ticket. I've used the WhatsApp number and am currently on hold - or should I say hoooooooold.

SanDiego1K May 25, 2025 3:33 am


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 37106202)
XL seats on Condor for a flight 4 days out have dropped to $249.99. Unfortunately I've been unable to ticket. I've used the WhatsApp number and am currently on hold - or should I say hoooooooold.

Mission accomplished - but more of a challenge than I expected. My advice to you is to start with a call center and not WhatsApp.
  1. I was on hold with WhatsApp for almost 2 hours, despite being told an agent would be with me in 25 minutes The agent told me
    1. Price was $300 not $250
    2. Seats are called Prime not XL
    3. Because I bought from AS and not Condor, there was no credit card associate with my booking. Condor WhatsApp cannot take credit cards.
  2. I was told to call one of these numbers: You can contact our service center 24/7 under +49(0)6171 - 69 88 920 (from the US and Canada please call +1 (0) 866 960 7915).
    1. Since I'm in Europe, I started with the German call center. I'd easily get to a question tree and then get disconnected a few questions in.
    2. I called the US number and this time said it was a Condor purchase. I was transferred to an agent within a minute and quickly and efficiently purchased our upgrade.


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