Norwegian Air stability through summer?
#151
Join Date: Jan 2010
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You've got to be having a laugh. Even when flying premium classes they still get used.
Currently these are only a fifth of the price but only up to 40kg. Still, that's more than any bag I'll be checking in.
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Digital luggage scales travel T shape 50KG Digital Luggage suitcase travel bag Hanging Weighing Scale with strap UK stock https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KY02J..._RQcVCb46C1Z0H
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#152
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Costco bathroom scale
I use a digital bathroom scale where it won't accurately weigh the bag by itself - especially light carry ons under 10kG.
So I weigh myself and then step off, pick up the item, weigh again.
Subtract first number from second number = weight of carry on / check in.
Has been very accurate to within 1kG when I arrive at the airport.
So I weigh myself and then step off, pick up the item, weigh again.
Subtract first number from second number = weight of carry on / check in.
Has been very accurate to within 1kG when I arrive at the airport.
#154
Join Date: Jan 2016
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How does Norwegian weigh bags in the US? Is the limit stated (and enforced) in lbs or kg?
With legacies it's 50lbs/23kg, with 23kg being 50.7lbs so you get a bit extra allowance departing EU. Also, I've normally been told by check in agents that "23.x" is okay, as long as the first number is 23. I think psychologically 51 vs 50 looks worse than 23.8 or 23.9 vs 23, with same integer in the latter case.
With legacies it's 50lbs/23kg, with 23kg being 50.7lbs so you get a bit extra allowance departing EU. Also, I've normally been told by check in agents that "23.x" is okay, as long as the first number is 23. I think psychologically 51 vs 50 looks worse than 23.8 or 23.9 vs 23, with same integer in the latter case.
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#155
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How does Norwegian weight bags in the US? Is the limit stated (and enforced) in lbs or kg?
With legacies it's 50lbs/23kg, with 23kg being 50.7lbs so you get a bit extra allowance departing EU. Also, I've normally been told by check in agents that "23.x" is okay, as long as the first number is 23. I think psychologically 51 vs 50 looks worse than 23.8 or 23.9 vs 23, with same integer in the latter case.
With legacies it's 50lbs/23kg, with 23kg being 50.7lbs so you get a bit extra allowance departing EU. Also, I've normally been told by check in agents that "23.x" is okay, as long as the first number is 23. I think psychologically 51 vs 50 looks worse than 23.8 or 23.9 vs 23, with same integer in the latter case.
You will need to stop by the kiosk and check in at the airport and then go to the bag drop counter.
If you are traveling with more than one, they will group weigh the bags - all carry ons weighed together must be no more than 10kg (22lbs) per person - all check in luggage are weighed together and must no more than 20kg (44lbs).
We traveled as a group of 4 on Low Fare tix and got to group weigh the check in and everything weighed in at 70lbs which was below the max (88 lbs).
We paid for 2 check in luggage ($40 each) and both weighed in at 60lbs.
But upon returning, the Europe side is totally different - they do not group weigh - they weigh each item singly....
#156
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In Rome this month, they weighed our carry-ons on a per-person basis toward the 10kg limit. To his credit the agent let my son slide at about 11kg, after one of his case’s wheels came off in the train station on the way to the airport! (Thus saving us, and him, from the process of transferring 1 kg out of the damaged roll-aboard to avoid checking it.)
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There's instability in the air at Norwegian with female flight attendants being required to wear heels that are at least 2cm high. Norwegian defends its right to such well-heeled instability even as it comes under attack from various political quarters.
#158
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Q1 net loss of 1.489 billion NOK.
From the Q1 report:
Equity at the end of the first quarter was NOK 3,092 million compared to NOK 1,704 million at the end of last year. Equity increased due to the rights issue raising a net equity increase of NOK 2,927 million, offset by a net loss year to date of NOK 1,489 million and exchange rate losses from subsidiaries of NOK 54 million. Other effects amounted to NOK 3 million.
(Translation: Norwegian burned through more than half of their 3billion NOK capital raise from stock dilution)
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/norwe...052919841.html
From the Q1 report:
Equity at the end of the first quarter was NOK 3,092 million compared to NOK 1,704 million at the end of last year. Equity increased due to the rights issue raising a net equity increase of NOK 2,927 million, offset by a net loss year to date of NOK 1,489 million and exchange rate losses from subsidiaries of NOK 54 million. Other effects amounted to NOK 3 million.
(Translation: Norwegian burned through more than half of their 3billion NOK capital raise from stock dilution)
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/norwe...052919841.html
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Q1 net loss of 1.489 billion NOK.
From the Q1 report:
Equity at the end of the first quarter was NOK 3,092 million compared to NOK 1,704 million at the end of last year. Equity increased due to the rights issue raising a net equity increase of NOK 2,927 million, offset by a net loss year to date of NOK 1,489 million and exchange rate losses from subsidiaries of NOK 54 million. Other effects amounted to NOK 3 million.
(Translation: Norwegian burned through more than half of their 3billion NOK capital raise from stock dilution)
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/norwe...052919841.html
From the Q1 report:
Equity at the end of the first quarter was NOK 3,092 million compared to NOK 1,704 million at the end of last year. Equity increased due to the rights issue raising a net equity increase of NOK 2,927 million, offset by a net loss year to date of NOK 1,489 million and exchange rate losses from subsidiaries of NOK 54 million. Other effects amounted to NOK 3 million.
(Translation: Norwegian burned through more than half of their 3billion NOK capital raise from stock dilution)
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/norwe...052919841.html
DY will probably be cutting back on their route network sooner than they claim, but DY is nowhere as close to closing shop yet as 9W was four months ago.
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It would be interesting to know what DYs problem is. Are they not charging enough for tickets or is it the network they're running. I mean, it's not a traditional hub and spoke like BA or which, we know makes money. They seem to fly random routes.
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DY gambled a lot with its expansion, but that's not new with DY. But the situation with DY is a bit like this: when you're a small gambler, getting the means to cover loses in anticipation of the gamble working out later is rather easy compared to when you're a big gambler and need way bigger means to cover loses while hoping for the gambling to pay off.
With oil prices set to be rather bad for airlines -- due to the anti-Iranian moves by a hostile coalition led by the traditional-yet-strange bedfellows of the US and Saudi Arabia -- DY is going to be more on the edge than it would have otherwise been.
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I think it's that they have a more complex network than they realized and that they don't have the pricing power to cover their cost structure as much as they need to avoid bleeding money. They seemed to have been on steroids to "just do it" and see what works without getting to the point of cutting out fast enough when things don't work.
DY gambled a lot with its expansion, but that's not new with DY. But the situation with DY is a bit like this: when you're a small gambler, getting the means to cover loses in anticipation of the gamble working out later is rather easy compared to when you're a big gambler and need way bigger means to cover loses while hoping for the gambling to pay off.
With oil prices set to be rather bad for airlines -- due to the anti-Iranian moves by a hostile coalition led by the traditional-yet-strange bedfellows of the US and Saudi Arabia -- DY is going to be more on the edge than it would have otherwise been.
DY gambled a lot with its expansion, but that's not new with DY. But the situation with DY is a bit like this: when you're a small gambler, getting the means to cover loses in anticipation of the gamble working out later is rather easy compared to when you're a big gambler and need way bigger means to cover loses while hoping for the gambling to pay off.
With oil prices set to be rather bad for airlines -- due to the anti-Iranian moves by a hostile coalition led by the traditional-yet-strange bedfellows of the US and Saudi Arabia -- DY is going to be more on the edge than it would have otherwise been.
#163
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In Rome this month, they weighed our carry-ons on a per-person basis toward the 10kg limit. To his credit the agent let my son slide at about 11kg, after one of his case’s wheels came off in the train station on the way to the airport! (Thus saving us, and him, from the process of transferring 1 kg out of the damaged roll-aboard to avoid checking it.)
#164
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Interesting...I was monitoring flights between PVD-SNN. Earlier this week they were still selling tickets starting in august (even though they were the Flex fares). Today-nothing until mid-September and still only Flex fares. Looks like they are cutting back on flights a bit. Supposedly would have been flown by the 737MAX, so that probably plays into it.
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#165
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You must insight into changes in their bond covenants. I haven’t seen any changes published. Please post the covenant changes.