HI Mwenenzi
Thanks for the help with the correct thread and the advice.

How sure are we about the wiki entry implying you won't pay for a base fair increase if reticketing after departure?

That's what I understood too but two of best AA rtw helpdesk staff have both suggested it's likely my ex CAI ticket priced at Cathay's rate last week would reprice if I rerouted even if I did so after departure.

The rules are clear that you will pay for a base fair hike if you reticket before 1st departure or if you add to the number of continents, but is does not explicitly say you won't if you reticket after departure without a change in continents. That strongly implies you shouldn't pay for the hike if reticketing after departure but note how b below does not say you have to pay for the difference in taxes etc. which we know you do so I can see how Cathay (/AA rtw desk) might argue the base fair hike is treated the same way.

Prior to departure: "If the fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the difference between the old and new fare will also be charged."

After departure (wording in full for Eff 1 September 2018 rules):
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.

b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.

c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125.

d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value

If you make changes to your ticket after flying the first leg and don't change the routing or stopover points, you won't be charged. Full stop.

If you make changes to the ticket after flying the first leg and change the routing or stopover points, you shouldn't be charged. CX might try, of course, but it all depends on the agent and how often you're willing to HUCB and push the issue.

For clarity, in option 2 they should be charged the $125 fee for changes to ticketed points in that scenario, but not a complete reprice. And they'll be dealing with AA as the ticketing airline, it's just on the CX fare basis (from how I read the post).

Having said that CX just changed one for me last week (CX issued ticket) for free when I did change ticketed points, but I believe my taxes and fees actually went down in the change, so was probably a wash or nearly so. I changed from a CX transit in HKG to a MH / JL transit in KUL, from what I can see KUL has no passenger or facility charges for transit, while HKG has a fairly substantial one. I'm not sure about YR, but since it's a CX ticket I suspect I also saved a bit there changing from their codes to MH and JL.

Correct.

That's great to know, thanks. I assume CX wouldn't reticket an AA ticketed xONEx even if it was governed by CX but the fact they did treat it as we expect is a good sign in terms of AA doign the same.

Ah sorry, that was my old ex-TYO ticket, CX ticketed from the start on CX fare basis. It wasn't actually related to the ex-CAI deal, I just needed to make some changes on it last week to nest part of the remaining segments into my ex-CAI itinerary.

Ah! Thanks for the clarification. Well, I'll be trying my luck with AA in late May. Hmm, while I suspect CX wouldn't touch an AA ticketed xONEx ... I wonder if a travel agent that handles xONEx tickets could.

Basically, I'm not sure how tightly tied you are to who ticketed.

In irrops an airline will take over a ticket but generally no, you have to stick with your ticketing airline. Travel agents can't take over an airline issued ticket either. I can imagine an enterprising age t could make a fair amount from all these QF issued tickets if that were possible, haha! Even in irrops I suspect the operating airline would make only the necessary change then send it back to the issuing airline. I haven't personally experienced any disruptions beyond the typical schedule changes on one of these so can't say 100%.

In your case, AA is much easier to deal with on these tickets than CX, no reason to try getting someone else to take it over.

Thanks. I suspected as much.

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100%, I worked hard to have AA ticket precisely because their rtw desk is generally so much better than elsewhere. I can't shop around, but if I could have then it would purely have been if it was the only way to avoid a ~$4k base fare increase charge when re-routing the last 3 segments of my 14 segment rtw to 5 similar (and legit) segments. I'll likely have direct experience of how AA are about it come end come end of May.

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In the past, most OneWorld airlines were happy to take over an xONEx issued by any OneWorld airline, since they all publish the same fares, so one issued by any conforms to the same fare issued by any other. More recently, especially after a few super-cheap RTWs, many airlines are now reluctant to touch an RTW issued by a different airline. I believe AA will take over one issued by another airline for a fee. If you have an AA prime flight that you can upgrade with miles+copay or an SWU, then AA will take over the ticket as part of the upgrade, at which point the AA RTW desk will handle further changes without the takeover fee. Other airlines will sometimes take over another's RTW, but it may depend on which agent you get.

As noted, travel agents usually are unable to take over airline generated itineraries (but airlines can take over agency issued ones).

Holy cow I wish I knew that a year and a half ago. I did upgrade my first QF RTW with an AA SWU GRU-JFK and had some of my first encounters with how bad QF was to deal with about 2 weeks later when I broke my leg in Tbilisi and had to make some changes due to not being able to fly out of Tbilisi as planned plus not being able to fly to CPH anymore due to no flights out of there to get home in a flat bed business seat (my leg was locked straight in a brace, Euro business wouldn't work). I eventually got myself home via CDG but it wasn't easy with QF handling the ticket to CDG (changed from CPH and got my own ticket in JL F from there).

Sorry to hear that. It sounds like way more hassle than you needed while dealing with a broken leg in a cast.

Yes, when AA upgrades a flight, they reissue the ticket so the upgraded flight reservation has a matching flight coupon. Then, since it's an AA ticket, the AA RTW desk will handle it as normal. But even without an upgrade, I believe AA will take over another airline's RTW for a fee.

This thread topic is Changes to xONEx Rule Sheet
Many recent posts are not about rule *changes*, but typical issues with booking, reissues and bugs in the RTW tool.

Sticky threads
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...ser-guide.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...iences-49.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...thread-17.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...ed-thread.html

Yes, you're right. My apologies for participating by replying here. A moderator may wish to move #719 to The Oneworld Explorer User Guide and #722 through #733 to RTW re-issue concerns (merged thread).