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pandaperth May 31, 2021 7:09 pm

Can't believe I missed this change to Rule 4(k) back in April - must have had a senior's moment :eek:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a4d8b9ef2a.png
2021-April - new wording to Rule 4(k)
Previously the rule listed cities in columns A and B, now it lists states.
And previously there were no cities listed from the following states:
Indiana, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky, and Washington DC (which is state!??)

I will update the wiki to the User Guide shortly.

allset2travel Jun 4, 2021 5:23 pm

Wow, this new rule looks more restrictive. Many Mid-west states are included in Col B. BTW, I didn't see San Juan, PR included in Col B. Loophole? or mistake?

wijibintheair Jun 5, 2021 3:21 am


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 33304202)
BTW, I didn't see San Juan, PR included in Col B. Loophole? or mistake?

Good point - although if I try the RTW booking tool if I add say a LAX-SJU flight it won't allow me to add an SJU-LAX flight as you are only allowed one transcontinental. So I guess it is at least still there just not on the rule sheet.

ernestnywang Jun 5, 2021 11:44 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 33304202)
Wow, this new rule looks more restrictive. Many Mid-west states are included in Col B. BTW, I didn't see San Juan, PR included in Col B. Loophole? or mistake?


Originally Posted by wijibintheair (Post 33304893)
Good point - although if I try the RTW booking tool if I add say a LAX-SJU flight it won't allow me to add an SJU-LAX flight as you are only allowed one transcontinental. So I guess it is at least still there just not on the rule sheet.

I couldn't find any direct LAX-SJU flight. Does it even exist? If it doesn't exist, that would be the reason why PR is not included.

wijibintheair Jun 6, 2021 3:27 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 33306882)
I couldn't find any direct LAX-SJU flight. Does it even exist? If it doesn't exist, that would be the reason why PR is not included.

There isn't currently as far as I know a non-stop between LAX and SJU - however, before the choosing the flight stage, when you are simply entering the city pairs if you try LAX-SJU-LAX you get the following message "You can make only one transcontinental flight between East and West US cities - East: Baltimore, Boston, Fort Lauderdale, Hartford, Miami, Newark, New York, Orlando, Philadelphia, San Juan, Toronto, West Palm Beach, Washington D.C. West: Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Long Beach, Oakland, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Ana, Seattle, Vancouver. Please select another destination"
This of course harks back to the "old" cities rather than states rule - but nonetheless it is still saying (at least for online bookings) that SJU is subject to the restrictions.

ernestnywang Jun 6, 2021 4:49 am


Originally Posted by wijibintheair (Post 33307088)
There isn't currently as far as I know a non-stop between LAX and SJU - however, before the choosing the flight stage, when you are simply entering the city pairs if you try LAX-SJU-LAX you get the following message "You can make only one transcontinental flight between East and West US cities - East: Baltimore, Boston, Fort Lauderdale, Hartford, Miami, Newark, New York, Orlando, Philadelphia, San Juan, Toronto, West Palm Beach, Washington D.C. West: Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Long Beach, Oakland, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Ana, Seattle, Vancouver. Please select another destination"
This of course harks back to the "old" cities rather than states rule - but nonetheless it is still saying (at least for online bookings) that SJU is subject to the restrictions.

I would say it is unrelated then. The system simply hasn't been updated. You can always do LAX-ORD/DFW-SJU-ORD/DFW-LAX, before or now.

pandaperth Jun 6, 2021 7:56 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 33307165)
I would say it is unrelated then. The system simply hasn't been updated. You can always do LAX-ORD/DFW-SJU-ORD/DFW-LAX, before or now.

As the rules have changed over the years, the system has never been updated :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 33304202)
Wow, this new rule looks more restrictive. Many Mid-west states are included in Col B. BTW, I didn't see San Juan, PR included in Col B. Loophole? or mistake?

I'll bet that those mid-west states can still be used for transcons in the system ;)

wandering_fred Jun 7, 2021 4:27 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 33306882)
I couldn't find any direct LAX-SJU flight. Does it even exist? If it doesn't exist, that would be the reason why PR is not included.

2003
American's new nonstop schedule is:
Los Angeles to San Juan (Fridays and Saturdays only)
Flight Departs Arrives
238 11:45 p.m. 10:30 a.m. (next day)
Seriously considered when I was wandering

Fred

pandaperth Jun 7, 2021 7:54 pm


Originally Posted by wandering_fred (Post 33309235)
2003
...
Seriously considered when I was wandering

Fred

Oh to be wandering again
Hopefully soon - after my 2nd AZ jab, and when the surgeons have finished with me (the joys of aging :rolleyes:)

zoombee Jun 8, 2021 5:54 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 33311212)
Oh to be wandering again
Hopefully soon - after my 2nd AZ jab, and when the surgeons have finished with me (the joys of aging :rolleyes:)

Hope it's not too serious and in any cases all goes well!

pandaperth Jul 2, 2021 9:00 pm

2021-Jul-01 New Version of the Rule Sheet - minor change only
 
2021-Jul-01 New Version of the Rule Sheet - minor change only
According to diffchecker the only change is to Rule 5 - a change to the booking codes used by JL for its domestic flights (and these changes do not take effect until July 2022!)

pandaperth May 6, 2022 3:13 am

2022-Apr-21 New Version of the Rule Sheet - S7 removed from the list of Oneworld Airlines
According to diffchecker this is the only change

anabolism May 6, 2022 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 34225851)
2022-Apr-21 New Version of the Rule Sheet - S7 removed from the list of Oneworld Airlines
According to diffchecker this is the only change

Thank you.

pandaperth Sep 9, 2022 5:45 am

2022-Aug-31 New Version of the Rule Sheet - Comair removed
 
2022-Aug-31 New Version of the Rule Sheet - Comair removed from the list of BA affiliated Airlines
According to diffchecker this is the only other change is to some booking codes on JL domestic flights

Comair is/was a BA subsidiary operating in southern Africa. I think it stopped flying during the pandemic and has yet to restart, perhaps it never will
It did fly JNB-MRU which would make possible a routing such as ...SYD-JNB-MRU-LGW...

anabolism Sep 9, 2022 4:52 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 34585381)
2022-Aug-31 New Version of the Rule Sheet - Comair removed from the list of BA affiliated Airlines
According to diffchecker this is the only other change is to some booking codes on JL domestic flights


Thank you for checking and reporting the diffs.



Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 34585381)
Comair is/was a BA subsidiary operating in southern Africa. I think it stopped flying during the pandemic and has yet to restart, perhaps it never will
It did fly JNB-MRU which would make possible a routing such as ...SYD-JNB-MRU-LGW...

If I recall correctly, they had been operating until just a few months ago, when they were grounded by safety regulators for gross violations. I understand they were also in bankruptcy reorganization but that apparently failed and they are now being liquidated.

I've flown them a number of times, most often as part of an RTW, between JNB and CPT.


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