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The online tool sucks.
Period.

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Originally Posted by sambagrrl07 (Post 36660474)

I think I've figured out a DONE4 route that works and has availability, but when I use the oneworld tool it thinks I'm trying to book a Global Explorer and tells me I've passed the mileage limit:
OSL - xDOH - oCMN - xDOH - oSIN - oHKG - oAKL - xSYD - xLAX* - oJFK - xMIA - oSJO - xDFW** - oHEL - OSL
* AKL-SYD-LAX-JFK not bookable as one ticket, but layover at LAX is < 24:00 (3:00)
** SJO-DFW-HEL not bookable as one ticket, but layover at DFW is < 24:00 (21:30)

Is it the tool? Do I have to call AA and feed every flight to an agent?

Any error (real or false) seems to give a "Global Explorer - mileage limit" message. As above to OW online tool is poor.
Guessing you have identified all those as non stop flights and having D availability.
Generally stop over vs transit mean little with these fares. Can effect real govt taxes
But airline married segments (~availability) can be a issue. Say ~10 years ago this was not an issue.

For oAKL - xSYD - xLAX* for also have MEL & BNE as an option. So oAKL - xSYD/MEL/BNE - xLAX*.
Also are BNE/SYD/MEL-DFW flights by AA(BNE), QF (SYD MEL)
AA fly AKL-DFW & AKL-LAX seasonably (southern summer)
Are other options for SJO : AS & AA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_S...tional_Airport

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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 36660540)

Any error (real or false) seems to give a "Global Explorer - mileage limit" message. As above to OW online tool is poor.
Guessing you have identified all those as non stop flights and having D availability.
Generally stop over vs transit mean little with these fares. Can effect real govt taxes
But airline married segments (~availability) can be a issue. Say ~10 years ago this was not an issue.

For oAKL - xSYD - xLAX* for also have MEL & BNE as an option. So oAKL - xSYD/MEL/BNE - xLAX*.
Also are BNE/SYD/MEL-DFW flights by AA(BNE), QF (SYD MEL)
Are other options for SJO : AS & AA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_S...tional_Airport

Thanks! Re SJO, I was running up against the Europe stop limit so wanted to be able to fly to HEL to get to OSL on the last leg, and wanted to avoid MIA if possible. I already had one transcontinental flight so was hoping DFW would work.

Just got off the phone with an EP agent at AA, and they’re saying they don’t see the first two flights as priceable (QR OSL-DOH, AT DOH-CMN), which is similar to the issues I ran into with the oneworld tool. I really don’t want to travel on BA/AT via LHR. Would a travel agent be able to see what I see in ExpertFlyer and put the ticket together?

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Originally Posted by sambagrrl07 (Post 36660474)

I think I've figured out a DONE4 route that works and has availability, but when I use the oneworld tool it thinks I'm trying to book a Global Explorer and tells me I've passed the mileage limit:

OSL - xDOH - oCMN - xDOH - oSIN - oHKG - oAKL - xSYD - xLAX* - oJFK - xMIA - oSJO - xDFW** - oHEL - OSL

* AKL-SYD-LAX-JFK not bookable as one ticket, but layover at LAX is < 24:00 (3:00)
** SJO-DFW-HEL not bookable as one ticket, but layover at DFW is < 24:00 (21:30)

Is it the tool? Do I have to call AA and feed every flight to an agent?

It maybe the two DOH connections. Calling The AA RTW desk is the way I book.

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Originally Posted by flyhurl (Post 36660560)

It maybe the two DOH connections.

What makes you say that?

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Originally Posted by flyhurl (Post 36660560)

It maybe the two DOH connections. Calling The AA RTW desk is the way I book.

I don’t think so, since I’m not traveling in the same direction between the two cities. But I just tried to see if I could book OSL-DOH-CMN on Qatar’s own website and it couldn’t find it. So maybe EF is wrong?

I tried to book two QATAR flights in the tool and it was rejected. I thought perhaps there is a special rule about DOHA like there is a bout Hawaii? I am not expert at all just asking a question.

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Originally Posted by sambagrrl07 (Post 36660593)

Interesting. I can see OSL-DOH on qatarairways.com, and DOH-CMN on royalairmaroc.com. But OSL-CMN doesn't show up, via LHR or DOH, on either aa.com or ITA Matrix, and neither do the individual flights. ExpertFlyer screenshot below with the flights in question, which I guess I'll abandon.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...173d79f734.png

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Originally Posted by TKMAXX (Post 36659186)

Ok super helpful, thanks so much! Changing to something like OSL-DOH-MEL//(Avios for internal QR flights) SYD-AKL-JFK. Might fit in some side trips here within North America. Then -DOH-NBO//LUN-DOH-MAD-TOS (for the Northern Lights)

That gives 4 segments for side trips in NA to be planned (can skip SYD to AKL and do that Avios if another is another segment needed). Hopefully when FJ joins OW I'll add in NAN, although it does mean 2 segments extra with the DFW stop.

I'll credit to BAEC, so I probably will do AA RTW booking

I used ITA Matrix, set the country of sale and currency to Norway and NOK, but can't see many fees for even the QF3 AKL-JFK flight which I would imagine has huge YQ/YR fees. Currently looking at QR, QF, CX (FJ hopefully!). Are there any tricks for dumping and checking the YQ/YR fees for these?

If any travel agents frequent this forum, feel free to DM me to see if you can help me out here with ticketing on QR or any stock that cuts these fees, I would be interested!

That QF3 flight you're wanting is available as an AA codeshare to avoid the QF YQ/YR, but availability on either QF or AA code is scarce. I have seen it, but it's scarce.

ITA matrix won't give you any idea about an RTW YQ/YR, they are completely different than standalone tickets. You need to start working with a travel agent or AA RTW desk.

If I recall correctly as well, you can't add FJ (or WY) to an already ticketed itinerary, you can only use the carriers in the fare rules when you purchased.

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Originally Posted by flyhurl (Post 36660594)

I tried to book two QATAR flights in the tool and it was rejected. I thought perhaps there is a special rule about DOHA like there is a bout Hawaii? I am not expert at all just asking a question.

No special rule about DOH except the segment / stopover limit in Europe, depending on your point of origin.

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Originally Posted by sambagrrl07 (Post 36660616)

The tool doesn't allow QR as your first carrier, that's why you're not seeing those flights. You have to book via AA (or another OW airline), or a travel agent to have OSL-DOH as your first segment.

I finally achieved a valid itinerary thanks to this thread!

OSL-DOH-SIN QR
SIN-HKG CX
HKG-AKL CX
AKL-JFK QF (I lucked out!)
JFK-MIA-SJO AA
SJO-DFW-MAD-CMN AA/IB (AA codeshare on transatlantic)
CMN-DOH-OSL QR

Taxes and fees are > $1,800, though. Would changing the QF flight to the AA codeshare lower fees significantly? How would that affect LP earning?

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Originally Posted by sambagrrl07 (Post 36663768)

Compared to your original

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OSL - xDOH - oCMN - xDOH - oSIN - oHKG - oAKL - xSYD - xLAX* - oJFK - xMIA - oSJO - xDFW** - oHEL - OSL

Well done. Enjoy the trip. Starting - finishing when?
For AKL-JFK to AAdvantage QF flight number would earn on distance vs AA flight number on cost.
But from other posts in this & other threads AA earning can be hard to predict.
Is a dedicated AA forum thread--> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...age-miles.html

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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 36664652)

Compared to your original

Well done. Enjoy the trip. Starting - finishing when?
For AKL-JFK to AAdvantage QF flight number would earn on distance vs AA flight number on cost.
But from other posts in this & other threads AA earning can be hard to predict.
Is a dedicated AA forum thread--> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...age-miles.html

September - October 2025. I was worried about fuel surcharges on QF from NZ, but then I saw this post. So I think I’ll leave it as is.

With all the airlines doing discounts for Black Friday, I don’t suppose there is a Black Friday RTW discount somewhere?

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Originally Posted by Hennebou (Post 36703865)

With all the airlines doing discounts for Black Friday, I don’t suppose there is a Black Friday RTW discount somewhere?

Nope

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Originally Posted by Hennebou (Post 36703865)

With all the airlines doing discounts for Black Friday, I don’t suppose there is a Black Friday RTW discount somewhere?

LOL, one could only wish. But that would mean you'd have to be able to book on their website, which isn't possible. Even a good bit of the % off sales are economy class only.