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Hennebou Jan 30, 2025 5:11 am


Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234 (Post 36855683)
HND-CGK-HKG-SIN-DOH-MAD-DOH-CDG-DOH-LAX-DFW-HNL-LAX-SFO-JFK-HND

in addition to what has been said above, it looks like this itinerary conflicts with rule "8. Stopovers: […] only 2 permitted in continent of origin"

I think you have one too many stopovers in Asia at the moment (CGK, HKG, SIN). You would need to make one a transit (i.e. depart within 24hrs of arriving) for it to work.

sydneyguy1234 Jan 30, 2025 6:16 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36855813)
Well, first, you've only used 15 segments, so you have one more available. But you'll have to see where you stand after you fix the DFW-HNL-LAX problem. Maybe add HKG-ICN, then ICN-DOH?

Also, assuming that it's an MR, replace CDG with DUB and you'll pick up almost 500 miles.

Missed the HNL rule and fine tuned stop over will be at HKG/SIN/MAD/CDG/LAX/MIA with a bit of MR in mind

HND-xCGK-HKG-SIN-DOH-MAD-DOH-CDG-DOH-LAX-DFW-ORD-MIA-DFW-SFO-JFK-HND

danger Jan 30, 2025 6:21 am


Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234 (Post 36855961)
Missed the HNL rule and fine tuned stop over will be at HKG/SIN/MAD/CDG/LAX/MIA with a bit of MR in mind

HND-xCGK-HKG-SIN-DOH-MAD-DOH-CDG-DOH-LAX-DFW-ORD-MIA-DFW-SFO-JFK-HND

Maybe DFW-ANC-ORD-MIA-SFO, although it's a couple of long flights in a recliner (including, I think, a red-eye ANC-ORD).

moral_low_ground Jan 30, 2025 10:46 am

sorry for asking but I have searched and cannot find - I saw a post somewhere where a person has built an excel sheet with all the Oneworld RTW costs when starting from different countries - can anyone post a link to this .xls as am keen to compare costs for starting location and class

dutch_122 Jan 30, 2025 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by moral_low_ground (Post 36856629)
sorry for asking but I have searched and cannot find - I saw a post somewhere where a person has built an excel sheet with all the Oneworld RTW costs when starting from different countries - can anyone post a link to this .xls as am keen to compare costs for starting location and class

post 2617 in Oneworld booking and pricing experiences.

jrobin Jan 30, 2025 3:01 pm

Issuing Carriers and Segment Marketing Carriers
 

Originally Posted by Chesil (Post 36825329)
...The AA RTW desk has validated this routing and is currently holding the following booking for us:

OSL-DOHx-SGN-PNH - Qatar Airways
PNH-HAN - surface leg
HAN-HKG-AKL - Cathay Pacific operated but booked on a QR code share
AKL-SYD-HNL - Qantas
HNL-DFWx-YVR - American Airlines
YVR-LHR - British Airways
LHR-DOHx-DXB - Qatar Airways
DXB-LHRx-OSL - British Airways

The pricing has also just come through - the base fare (£4,178) and lots of various taxes (total of £714) are broadly what I expected but the "other taxes and carrier imposed charges" are £1,998! Whilst I expected a certain level of taxes and carrier charges I am still quite surprised at how high these have ended up being. There are 3 adults and 1 child on this booking so the total carrier charges end up being a huge total amount for us.

Curiously the "other taxes and imposed charges" for my 10 year old son are showing as an even higher £2,760.80 - which makes me think there must be an error at least in the child fare and perhaps also in the adult fares that have been presented to me?
...
I'd hugely value any advice/tips on how I might be able to improve the overall cost.


Originally Posted by dutch_122 (Post 36825601)
Have checked the routing myself, if issued by AA / BA the total taxes are EUR3258 (excluding the base fare).

Cathay Pacific slightly lower around EUR3150.

If issued on QR they are EUR1985.

The difference is the Carrier Imposed Charges.

So changing the issuing carrier to QR can make a significant difference.
How much difference to the total would it make if the BA segments were eliminated, perhaps by changing
YVR-LHR to YVR-HEL-LHR
and
DXB-xLHR-OSL to either DXB-xHEL-OSL or DXB-xDOH-OSL?

Could changing segment marketing carriers reduce Chesil's cost significantly as well as changing the issuing carrier?

the more general question is how does one optimize issuing carriers and segment marketing carriers?

Thanks for any thoughts.

dutch_122 Jan 30, 2025 3:49 pm


Originally Posted by jrobin (Post 36857227)
So changing the issuing carrier to QR can make a significant difference.
How much difference to the total would it make if the BA segments were eliminated, perhaps by changing
YVR-LHR to YVR-HEL-LHR
and
DXB-xLHR-OSL to either DXB-xHEL-OSL or DXB-xDOH-OSL?

Could changing segment marketing carriers reduce Chesil's cost significantly as well as changing the issuing carrier?

the more general question is how does one optimize issuing carriers and segment marketing carriers?

Thanks for any thoughts.

If QR is in the RTW (ideally starting airline) and issued you have saving of approx. EUR800 with DONE3. More savings when DONE4 / DONE5 etc. Not about changing carrier.

All other OW carriers have higher YQ or Carrier Imposed charges.

Let me know your routing and i will check tomorrow.

regards

jrobin Jan 30, 2025 11:07 pm


Originally Posted by dutch_122 (Post 36857339)
If QR is in the RTW (ideally starting airline) and issued you have saving of approx. EUR800 with DONE3. More savings when DONE4 / DONE5 etc. Not about changing carrier.

All other OW carriers have higher YQ or Carrier Imposed charges.

Let me know your routing and i will check tomorrow.

regards

The question was referring to Chesil’s routing.
So if issued by QR, you say no additional cost saving by using Finnair or QR or JL rather than BA.

Would these changes reduce costs much if DONEx is not issued by QR (using AA or JL as two other options)?

Thanks


dutch_122 Jan 31, 2025 1:19 am


Originally Posted by jrobin (Post 36857936)
The question was referring to Chesil’s routing.
So if issued by QR, you say no additional cost saving by using Finnair or QR or JL rather than BA.

Would these changes reduce costs much if DONEx is not issued by QR (using AA or JL as two other options)?

Thanks

You save money when it's issued on QR.

Changing the route does not matter.

BA / AA /CX they have the highest taxes and Carrier Imposed charges.

Dr. HFH Jan 31, 2025 4:36 am


Originally Posted by dutch_122 (Post 36858047)
You save money when it's issued on QR.

I've been using the AA RTW desk for years, ever since they eliminated the rule that you have to buy your ticket in your originating country (when I used to use Mindpearl). A couple of questions:

1. While I understand that it varies by specific itinerary, roughly how much can I expect to save on a DONE3 by having it issued by QR instead of AA?

2. How difficult is it to get QR to issue one of these? Does it have a dedicated RTW desk similar to AA? How does one do it?

danger Jan 31, 2025 4:56 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36858282)
I've been using the AA RTW desk for years, ever since they eliminated the rule that you have to buy your ticket in your originating country (when I used to use Mindpearl). A couple of questions:

1. While I understand that it varies by specific itinerary, roughly how much can I expect to save on a DONE3 by having it issued by QR instead of AA?

2. How difficult is it to get QR to issue one of these? Does it have a dedicated RTW desk similar to AA? How does one do it?

​​​​​On question two, I think one or two said upthread that QR is essentially not interested in RTW bookings and directs people to the oneworld website. A TA could probably plate on QR, though.

izzik Jan 31, 2025 6:33 am

All of these questions re pricing on QR require use of a travel agent. Yes, it means paying for a service that you have gotten for free with AA or the online tool...but the value is that you can run through the variety of routing scenarios with this person and other benefits. Not sure what people are expecting on here, posting about fare quotes for their specific itinerary. :confused:

dutch_122 Jan 31, 2025 7:11 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36858282)
I've been using the AA RTW desk for years, ever since they eliminated the rule that you have to buy your ticket in your originating country (when I used to use Mindpearl). A couple of questions:

1. While I understand that it varies by specific itinerary, roughly how much can I expect to save on a DONE3 by having it issued by QR instead of AA?

2. How difficult is it to get QR to issue one of these? Does it have a dedicated RTW desk similar to AA? How does one do it?


Hi Dr. HFH,

1. QR does not issue these tickets

2. Not, No dedicated desk, they will tell you use a TA.


Have booked and issued RTW on QR stock last month 7 x times (all started ex-OSL).

izzik Jan 31, 2025 7:20 am

dutch_122 are you offering your services as a TA? If so, what is your fee? It sounds like this is a need in this community.

dutch_122 Jan 31, 2025 2:10 pm


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 36858553)
dutch_122 are you offering your services as a TA? If so, what is your fee? It sounds like this is a need in this community.


Hi izzik, i can help, work as TA since April 2023 again for e-Businesstravel in the Netherlands. Our fee for the RTW is fixed EUR75.00.

Feel free to sent pm or email.

regards



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