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Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 37165581)
AA RTW is the best free agent.
if there is a change fee, well.. try not to make a lot of changes. Question though - I have one sector SYD - PER on Qantas where Expertflyer shows lots of D class availability but the BA agent siad there was none (And this was for 2 flights both showing D). The BA agent was in the UK and I set Expertflyer PoS to be UK and all my other flights where I saw D being available were available. So what gives ? Why did the BA agent see D0 when I can see D6 etc and more important - how can I check to see if/when D class (from BA's perspective) might be available on this flight given that it is already showing available in Expertflyer |
Originally Posted by moral_low_ground
(Post 37167700)
As my first segment was BA I just called them - got a good agent - she knew most of the rules - took down my schedule and its gone for pricing.
Question though - I have one sector SYD - PER on Qantas where Expertflyer shows lots of D class availability but the BA agent siad there was none (And this was for 2 flights both showing D). The BA agent was in the UK and I set Expertflyer PoS to be UK and all my other flights where I saw D being available were available. So what gives ? Why did the BA agent see D0 when I can see D6 etc and more important - how can I check to see if/when D class (from BA's perspective) might be available on this flight given that it is already showing available in Expertflyer This year I had issues where DOH-xJFK-LAX for particular flights showed D0 (both segments) whereas searching on an individual segment basis, the DOH-JFK and JFK-LAX flights each had D availability. |
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 37169097)
Was the requested SYD-PER segment part of a transit? i.e. XXX-xSYD-PER- or -SYD-xPER-YYY ?
This year I had issues where DOH-xJFK-LAX for particular flights showed D0 (both segments) whereas searching on an individual segment basis, the DOH-JFK and JFK-LAX flights each had D availability. If I look at JNB-PER via SYD then there is no D showing on either flight. |
Originally Posted by moral_low_ground
(Post 37169425)
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If I look at JNB-PER via SYD then there is no D showing on either flight. In my case I also booked what was available although inconveniently timed. I did recheck once every week or so and after about two months D became available on my preferred flights and I was able to change to them. (It's a shame Experflyer can't do alerts on multi segment routings such as AAA to BBB via CCC. (AAA-xCCC-BBB)) |
In case it is of interest - finally got things ticketed - took a while and some pretty big frustrations with BA - but like always - if you find the right agent then things can be done right and quickly.
The DONE4 ended up being 4193 GBP + 2888 GBP in Taxes - so just over 7K GBP for 14 segments (+2 surface) in Business and around 38.5K miles to be flown |
Thanks for the update
Originally Posted by moral_low_ground
(Post 37183776)
In case it is of interest - finally got things ticketed - took a while and some pretty big frustrations with BA - but like always - if you find the right agent then things can be done right and quickly.
The DONE4 ended up being 4193 GBP + 2888 GBP in Taxes - so just over 7K GBP for 14 segments (+2 surface) in Business and around 38.5K miles to be flown |
Originally Posted by flyhurl
(Post 37183923)
Thank you for the update. I would love to see the full routing. Those taxes are a bit high but of course it probably gets you the flights that you prefer. I know on our last bookings we gave up some value because of work commitments.
I asked for the taxes calc but they weren't able to send me one so I guess I will check on the ticket receipt if/when available. Main concern is whether I have been charged APD for LHR-JNB as this is just a connection from OSL so shouldn't be there. JNB-PER via SYD is also a connecting flight in SYD but not sure if that makes a difference tax wise. Is there a nice tool anywhere to check taxes ? |
Used the very buggy OneWorld tool for your itin and got these fees in NOK. Not sure if that sheds any light on what you where charged but it does show that alot of the fees are the Carrier Surchage/Fees that I think come from Qantas. Thanks for posting your routing; I learned alot from looking at it.Airline Insurance Surcharge 6,366.00 NOK
Multiple Carrier Surcharges/Fees 155.00 NOK Carrier Surcharge/Fee 27,224.00 NOK Tax description unavailable (G2AP) 342.00 NOK Tax description unavailable (ZNAE) 155.00 NOK UK Passenger Service Charge 638.00 NOK South Africa Passenger Safety Charge 18.00 NOK Tax description unavailable (UMSE) 15.00 NOK Air Passenger Tax for South Africa 109.00 NOK Passenger Service Charge for South Africa 178.00 NOK Australia Passenger Movement Charge 464.00 NOK Domestic Head Tax - Australia 69.00 NOK Australia Baggage Screening Tax - Departure 58.00 NOK Australian Passenger Service Charge 728.00 NOK Tax description unavailable (F1CA) 237.00 NOK Passenger Security Charge for New Zealand 185.00 NOK Passenger Security Charge at Auckland Airport (Arrivals) 170.00 NOK Passenger Security Charge at Auckland Airport (Departure) 130.00 NOK September 11th Security Fee 112.00 NOK U.S. Animal and Plant Inspection Service Users Fee 37.00 NOK Immigration and Naturalization Service Fee 71.00 NOK U.S. Customs Fee 73.00 NOK Passenger Facility Charges 45.00 NOK Total 37,579.00 x 1 = 37,579.00 NOK |
Originally Posted by flyhurl
(Post 37185292)
Used the very buggy OneWorld tool for your itin and got these fees in NOK. Not sure if that sheds any light on what you where charged but it does show that alot of the fees are the Carrier Surchage/Fees that I think come from Qantas. Thanks for posting your routing; I learned alot from looking at it.Airline Insurance Surcharge 6,366.00 NOK
Multiple Carrier Surcharges/Fees 155.00 NOK Carrier Surcharge/Fee 27,224.00 NOK Tax description unavailable (G2AP) 342.00 NOK Tax description unavailable (ZNAE) 155.00 NOK UK Passenger Service Charge 638.00 NOK South Africa Passenger Safety Charge 18.00 NOK Tax description unavailable (UMSE) 15.00 NOK Air Passenger Tax for South Africa 109.00 NOK Passenger Service Charge for South Africa 178.00 NOK Australia Passenger Movement Charge 464.00 NOK Domestic Head Tax - Australia 69.00 NOK Australia Baggage Screening Tax - Departure 58.00 NOK Australian Passenger Service Charge 728.00 NOK Tax description unavailable (F1CA) 237.00 NOK Passenger Security Charge for New Zealand 185.00 NOK Passenger Security Charge at Auckland Airport (Arrivals) 170.00 NOK Passenger Security Charge at Auckland Airport (Departure) 130.00 NOK September 11th Security Fee 112.00 NOK U.S. Animal and Plant Inspection Service Users Fee 37.00 NOK Immigration and Naturalization Service Fee 71.00 NOK U.S. Customs Fee 73.00 NOK Passenger Facility Charges 45.00 NOK Total 37,579.00 x 1 = 37,579.00 NOK Actual taxes of 2888 GBP comes out to about 39750 NOK at today's ROE so that's about 160 GBP more than what your calculation is above (and probably close enough that its likely that its correct). Despite BA not being able to provide me a breakdown - and it's not in my BA receipt - I went on to the Finnair website and they sent it to me and the taxes are as follows: https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...237ca36b53.jpg |
Would you have rather paid more in taxes and fees vs paying a travel agent that could have reduced the surcharges?
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Originally Posted by moral_low_ground
(Post 37185375)
Interesting - and thanks for doing.
Actual taxes of 2888 GBP comes out to about 39750 NOK at today's ROE so that's about 160 GBP more than what your calculation is above (and probably close enough that its likely that its correct). Despite BA not being able to provide me a breakdown - and it's not in my BA receipt - I went on to the Finnair website and they sent it to me and the taxes are as follows: https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...237ca36b53.jpg Air Travel Taxes - The Travel Insider This is out of date but it shows what codes go to which country. Over the years I have learned to stay away from anything BA ticketed on RTWs. The YQ is terrible. Its like dealing with Ali Babba and the 40 thieves. Your other taxes look normal. UK , AUS , NZ , and the USA are 4 of the worst for add on taxes. I always ticket with the AA rtw desk. |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 37185698)
Would you have rather paid more in taxes and fees vs paying a travel agent that could have reduced the surcharges?
I did originally ask an agent and they would have ticketed this trip but at 250 GBP per change of which there were likely to be 2 or 3 - it did not seem worth it |
I'm not an agent, so you'd have to ask them how much it would cost... But booking with BA pretty much guarantees you'll be paying lots of surcharges. It could be cheaper with an agent.
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Originally Posted by moral_low_ground
(Post 37186090)
Somewhat cryptic ? How would an agent reduce the fees and if so to what ?
I did originally ask an agent and they would have ticketed this trip but at 250 GBP per change of which there were likely to be 2 or 3 - it did not seem worth it
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 37186189)
I'm not an agent, so you'd have to ask them how much it would cost... But booking with BA pretty much guarantees you'll be paying lots of surcharges. It could be cheaper with an agent.
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