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zoombee Jul 22, 2025 6:34 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 37218529)
No mention of any additional charge for something = no charge.

100% agree that's what it clearly should be taken to mean. Alas we know that the airlines do not always agree or at least act to the contrary claiming they are entireld to do so. Moreover, if they take and maintain that line there aren't really many practical remedies. I.e. be aware that having just cause to think something should work a certain way does not mean it will always do so in practice.

That said, you're extemely likely to not be charged if (a) your'e dealing with the AA desk or elsewhere that usually knows what they are going, and (b) if you aren't chaging dates such that a transit connection has become a stopover (or vice versa but usually this is overlooked -- so HUACA probably works if you get push back.

moral_low_ground Jul 24, 2025 4:50 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 37217215)
Simple date changes are indeed free, send them back to study the rules if they push for a fee. Some airlines like JL charge for all changes, but most do not.

In theory the ticket does not need to be reissued, only revalidated for a date change, but there can be problems if they don't reissue so almost always do.

Just to clarify - assuming date changes are free - I presume that as the ticket is (just) being revalidated then they do not recalculate taxes etc and so costs in all circumstances to change a date are zero/free.

If they (BA) decided to re-issue the ticket would that involve a re-calc of taxes which (due to variable exchange rates) is bound to lead to a minus or a plus from the original calculation. In this case - and if taxes increased - would BA have a case to ask me to pay them ? given that the date change is free but increase in taxes needs to be paid

dvs7310 Jul 24, 2025 11:55 pm


Originally Posted by moral_low_ground (Post 37222433)
Just to clarify - assuming date changes are free - I presume that as the ticket is (just) being revalidated then they do not recalculate taxes etc and so costs in all circumstances to change a date are zero/free.

If they (BA) decided to re-issue the ticket would that involve a re-calc of taxes which (due to variable exchange rates) is bound to lead to a minus or a plus from the original calculation. In this case - and if taxes increased - would BA have a case to ask me to pay them ? given that the date change is free but increase in taxes needs to be paid

Those 'shouldn't' change unless you change the routing or change from a transit to stopover or v.v.. Quite a few places have higher fees for a stopover vs. a transit.

BMarkus Jul 25, 2025 12:34 am

I have small question. When I book the BA flight from SYD to LHR which is touching down in SIN. Do I see it right that this small stopp in SIN counts that I visited that continent? So this would then convert a xONE3 into a xDONE4?

danger Jul 25, 2025 12:47 am


Originally Posted by BMarkus (Post 37224067)
I have small question. When I book the BA flight from SYD to LHR which is touching down in SIN. Do I see it right that this small stopp in SIN counts that I visited that continent? So this would then convert a xONE3 into a xDONE4?

Correct.


Travel between South West Pacific and Europe/Middle East on a single flight number/or by surface eg LON-SYD/MEL/PER vv, DOH-ADL/AKL/CBR/MEL/PER/SYD vv, is considered travelling via Asia.Continents South West Pacific, Asia and Europe/Middle East must each be counted.
https://www.qantas.com/content/dam/q...er-01May20.pdf

lordmwa Jul 26, 2025 3:13 pm

Trying to book a RTW trip for January 26 and seem to be running into a few road blocks, we want to include a lap infant so know this will have to be done as a phone booking.

1) Do BA at any time have a UK based call centre anymore or is it always transferred direct to India?
2) If not I hear better things about the AA phone line, if we book with them can we still get avios and tier points to our BA accounts?
3) When trying to plan a business class routing from Oslo there is essentially no availability (surprise surprise!) but it does show a routing to Perth via Heathrow and Doha but with only economy availability on the Heathrow to Doha leg. If doing the same trip starting in Manchester it will allow the same flight in business but as UK origin is nearly 50% more expensive. What is even more bizarre is that if I switch to asking for a First ticket there is no first options but it does then show up a route via Heathrow with all business availability. Is this a bug with the planner and would fall down when trying to book over the phone? When planning with first and not using any non-business flights it shows up the pricing as the business price still.
4) Final query - If using a city as a forced transfer (Perth to Tokyo via Singapore but as two seperate legs) will this mean that bags need collecting in singapore and re-checking in?

Thanks in advance

Mwenenzi Jul 26, 2025 3:54 pm

lordmwa Welcome to FT

Originally Posted by lordmwa (Post 37226797)
Trying to book a RTW trip for January 26 and seem to be running into a few road blocks, we want to include a lap infant so know this will have to be done as a phone booking.

1) Do BA at any time have a UK based call centre anymore or is it always transferred direct to India?
2) If not I hear better things about the AA phone line, if we book with them can we still get avios and tier points to our BA accounts?
3) When trying to plan a business class routing from Oslo there is essentially no availability (surprise surprise!) but it does show a routing to Perth via Heathrow and Doha but with only economy availability on the Heathrow to Doha leg. If doing the same trip starting in Manchester it will allow the same flight in business but as UK origin is nearly 50% more expensive. What is even more bizarre is that if I switch to asking for a First ticket there is no first options but it does then show up a route via Heathrow with all business availability. Is this a bug with the planner and would fall down when trying to book over the phone? When planning with first and not using any non-business flights it shows up the pricing as the business price still.
4) Final query - If using a city as a forced transfer (Perth to Tokyo via Singapore but as two seperate legs) will this mean that bags need collecting in singapore and re-checking in?

Thanks in advance

1. Others will answer
2. Yes. AA just need AA flight in the itinerary.
3. Others have reported the first flight with QR does not ticket on the OW tool. No idea what you mean by "50% more expensive" as the base price for *ONE* is fixed based on origin. Small variation for carrier surcharges and real taxes depending on route. The OW on line tool has *many* bugs.
4. What route/destinations are you looking for? Bags on the same PNR get interlined at international transit airports. With a international to domestic transfer some countries require you to clear immigration & customs at first port of entry

Other thread ---> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...iences-74.html

lordmwa Jul 26, 2025 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37226834)
lordmwa Welcome to FT
1. Others will answer
2. Yes. AA just need AA flight in the itinerary.
3. Others have reported the first flight with QR does not ticket on the OW tool. No idea what you mean by "50% more expensive" as the base price for *ONE* is fixed. Small variation for carrier surcharges and real taxes depending on route. The OW on line tool has *many* bugs.
4. What route/destinations are you looking for? Bags on the same PNR get interlined at transit airports.

Other thread --->

Sorry I realise that was exremely unclear, booking from Oslo shows a price approximately a third less than from Manchester for the same rest of literary approx £22,000 from Manchester for two adults and a child and approx £15,000 after exchange from Norwegian krona from Oslo.

For the bag question the two legs we are looking at are perth to Tokyo via Singapore which I can't get to show up without adding Singapore as a city and Tokyo to Vancouver via Hong Kong as direct to Vancouver wasn't available with jal from Tokyo and don't really want to transit the US in Seattle!


Mwenenzi Jul 26, 2025 4:14 pm


Originally Posted by lordmwa (Post 37226839)
Sorry I realise that was exremely unclear, booking from Oslo shows a price approximately a third less than from Manchester for the same rest of literary approx £22,000 from Manchester for two adults and a child and approx £15,000 after exchange from Norwegian krona from Oslo.

For the bag question the two legs we are looking at are perth to Tokyo via Singapore which I can't get to show up without adding Singapore as a city and Tokyo to Vancouver via Hong Kong as direct to Vancouver wasn't available with jal from Tokyo and don't really want to transit the US in Seattle!

For Tokyo-YVR are you searching at NRT? Unsure if TYO works in the tool.
QF also fly SYD-YVR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancou...tional_Airport

Pricing from ~6 months ago https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/36757225-post2617.html

Your questions better in if https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...iences-74.html

izzik Jul 26, 2025 4:16 pm

I suggest contacting a travel agent or the AA RTW desk instead of making decisions based of what the online tool is telling you.

lordmwa Jul 27, 2025 12:03 am

Thank you, that pricing chart makes total sense as to why cheaper

Thanks, may need to review the syndey option although we were planning staying a few days in tokyo hence the odd routing!

Will move over to the other thread for further questions, thanks for your help

dutch_122 Jul 27, 2025 3:47 am


Originally Posted by moral_low_ground (Post 37216936)
Sigh - yet another battle with BA for my already ticketed DONE4

I am looking to change the date on one of my flights which I confirmed when ticketed that all changes of dates were free - in looking at the fare rules it just says that changes are permitted but it doesn't say for free and it also doesn't say there is a charge for changes (unless you are changing the routing etc).

Has anything changed with the rules or can someone confirm:

a) All changes to dates are free (where does it actually say they are free or no charge)
b) There is no re-price or re-quote on date changes

The fare rules on the oneworld site seem to indicate the above - from the rules it says: Rebooking is permitted as long as the routing remains the same

I assume a change in date does not mean the ticket needs to be re-issued which would be a $125 USD fee



Think the issue is that not all airlines are allowed to revalidate tickets e.g. QR (DL also as many others), then reissue is the only way to go, and if the USD125.00 will be charged or not is up to the agent handling the change.

British Airways see below:

BA E-TICKETING EN 30AUG24 1846Z

PLEASE REFER TO TGAD-BA PAGE TO SEE CARRIER'S INTERLINE PARTNERS

FOPS NOT ALLOWED:
>MD

EXCHANGES ALLOWED: E-TKT TO E-TKT:Y
E-TKT TO PAPER:Y
PAPER TO E-TKT:N


DISPLAY : /ORG: N /TVL: Y
/FTI: Y /FLT: Y
/FOP: Y /RCI: N
/TKT: Y /FOID: N

HISTORY :Y REVALIDATION :Y
PRINT (US ONLY) :N REFUND :Y
VOID :Y VOID EXCHANGE/REISSUE :Y
CANCEL REFUND :Y

And QR:

QR E-TICKET EN 4MAR25 0822Z

DISPLAY : /ORG: N /TVL: Y
/FTI: Y /FLT: Y
/FOP: Y /RCI: N
/TKT: Y /FOID: Y

HISTORY :Y REVALIDATION :N
PRINT :N REFUND :Y
VOID :Y VOID EXCHANGE/REISSUE :Y
CANCEL REFUND :Y


Airlines are allowed to revalidate E-tickets (segment affected only) then difference in taxes / airfare will not be collected.
TA's always need to reissue the E-ticket and the whole ticket.
And if there's a difference in airfare / tax this needs to be collected.

Otherwise ask Anonba in the British Airways Forum.

Hope this helps.

BMarkus Jul 27, 2025 6:59 am

lordmwa
Maybe you have a look into the two videos from Matt's Planet even if they are optimized for Finnair but he explains some pitfalls which could increase the ticket price.




dutch_122 Jul 27, 2025 7:13 am


Originally Posted by lordmwa (Post 37226797)
Trying to book a RTW trip for January 26 and seem to be running into a few road blocks, we want to include a lap infant so know this will have to be done as a phone booking.

1) Do BA at any time have a UK based call centre anymore or is it always transferred direct to India?
2) If not I hear better things about the AA phone line, if we book with them can we still get avios and tier points to our BA accounts?
3) When trying to plan a business class routing from Oslo there is essentially no availability (surprise surprise!) but it does show a routing to Perth via Heathrow and Doha but with only economy availability on the Heathrow to Doha leg. If doing the same trip starting in Manchester it will allow the same flight in business but as UK origin is nearly 50% more expensive. What is even more bizarre is that if I switch to asking for a First ticket there is no first options but it does then show up a route via Heathrow with all business availability. Is this a bug with the planner and would fall down when trying to book over the phone? When planning with first and not using any non-business flights it shows up the pricing as the business price still.
4) Final query - If using a city as a forced transfer (Perth to Tokyo via Singapore but as two seperate legs) will this mean that bags need collecting in singapore and re-checking in?

Thanks in advance


1 - mail BA [email protected], don't call.
2 - Yes. They are good.
3 - I don't use the tool anymore, too many issues, for me didn't improve the last 3 months. What is your routing? Are you sure lap infant for the whole trip or booked as child with own seat?
4 - If booked as transfer in the same E-ticket it will be forwarded. Otherwise not.

Hope this helps.

regards

dutch_122

izzik Jul 27, 2025 9:36 am

That was the first time I watched a matt's planet video... And likely the last. Thank you Matt for sharing information in such a way that it benefits us all. ;)


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