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mjack99 Sep 5, 2025 3:53 am

I have already and it got rejected on the first try. Sent it back for another go but thought someone here might know if this is even possible.

izzik Sep 5, 2025 7:42 am


Originally Posted by docsxx (Post 37302823)
Thanks for this. I did as you say… no real luck.

I have also been playing with chatGPT and got up to this, in case anyone is interested. I will continue fiddling.
  1. London (LHR) → Doha (DOH) — Qatar Airways A380 First
    (Launch your trip in F and angle further east inside the Europe/Middle East continent.)
  2. Doha (DOH) → Bangkok (BKK) — Qatar Airways A380 First
    (Keeps the direction east and adds a long F sector; QR is boosting A380s on DOH–BKK.)
  3. Bangkok (BKK) → Hong Kong (HKG) — Cathay Pacific Business
    (No reliable F on this short hop; CX J here stretches the Asia mileage.)
  4. Hong Kong (HKG) → Tokyo (HND) — Cathay Pacific or JAL Business
    (Another eastward Asian sector to set up the Pacific crossing.)
  5. Tokyo (HND) → Sydney (SYD) — JAL Business
    (JAL doesn’t sell F on Japan–Australia; J only here.)
  6. Sydney (SYD) → Los Angeles (LAX) — Qantas A380 First
    (Looooong Trans-Pac in true F; QF operates A380 First on this flagship.)
  7. Los Angeles (LAX) → New York (JFK) — American A321T Flagship First
    (True transcon First to add distance within North America.)
  8. New York (JFK) → London (LHR) — British Airways First
    (Classic Trans-Atl in F to finish where you started.)

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docsxx Sep 5, 2025 8:16 am

Thank you!

For some strange reason, when I look for AONE here I only get
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... I am sure I am doing something wrong...

littlevoices Sep 5, 2025 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by docsxx (Post 37302823)
Thanks for this. I did as you say… no real luck.

I have also been playing with chatGPT and got up to this, in case anyone is interested. I will continue fiddling.

The problem with JAL F for me, booking thru AA, is that there is very limited, if any, A availability that I can find to book. Since I live in Asia that has limited me somewhat.

Here are my three example AONEs starting in Tokyo from the last year:

Routing 1 - AONE4
HND-HKG(CX F) / HKG-LHR(CX F) / LHR-BAH(BA F) / BAH-DOH(QR F) / DOH-LHR(QR F) / LHR-MIA (AA F) / MIA-BOS(AA Domestic "F") / BOS-LAX(AA Transcon F) / LAX-HKG(CX F) / HKG-SIN(CX J) / SIN-SYD(QF F) / SYD-MEL(QF J) / MEL-HBA(QF J) / HBA-SYD(QF J) / SYD-HND(JL D**)
**I booked this in D, could never get A availability despite ~6 months of watching and asking regularly, the route always showed A2 at least, but JAL never let AA book. In the end I changed to QF SYD-MEL-HND in J for better dates, but did miss my JAL business.
What did this give me: I nested a return from the Middle East back to Asia, which gave me another holiday, then it was designed to let me try QF F (first time, good, but no Wifi) and then obviously I had the maximum 16 legs by the end, but I also got to fly on AA F (Still not worth it, it had been five years and didn't seem to have gotten better, but I wanted an alternative to "another BA F flight").​​​ Australia is obviously not a good destination if you want F unless you do a fly-in/out

Routing 2 - AONE3
This was almost entirely designed to maximise my BA TPs under the old system, whilst doing a weekend trip to the UK back to Manchester

HND-HKG(CX F) / HKG-DOH, DOH-LHR(QR F) / LHR-MAN, MAN-LHR (BA J) /LHR-JFK (BA F) JFK-LAX (AA Transcontinental F) / LAX-HKG (CX F) /HKG-KUL(CX J) / KUL-NRT (MH "F"/BusinessSuites)
I did this, excluding the Tokyo legs, in about five days. Gave me a chance to try MH BusinessSuites (pretty good actually), however my LHR-JFK flight was delayed by ~3 hours which meant it was a bit of a rush to get my Transcontinental

Routing 3 - AONE3
Similar to the above, and a month later, so I just went the other way around the world, the start was the return MH BusinessSuites flight returning above. However I flew out on the day LHR burned down.... oh dear. I am putting in what I'd booked as TP maximisation, not the end result which ended up missing BAH and having an 8 hour flight to nowhere out of LAX
NRT-KUL (MH "F"/BusinessSuites)/ KUL-HKG (CX J)/ HKG-LAX (CX F) / LAX-LHR-BAH-LHR (BA F) / MAN-LHR (BA J) / LHR-DOH (QF F), DOH-HKG (QF J) / HKG-BKK (CX J) / BKK-HND (JL F)

Overall
If you reflect on these examples you will observe that "too" many legs are short, or in business. But it worked for me and I was happy with all routes. Getting pure F routes is hard unless booking well in advance, and with the AONE4 I wanted 3 seats (not always possible). I would personally try to make sure you get CX long haul (across to the USA or into Heathrow) as that is really special. Qatar Airways F is "ok", you've got the right idea to prioritise the A380 around BKK over the old Qatar Pacific F into HKG and sometimes MLE/others as it is a bigger cabin and more QR specific. I would not spend much time on either BA or AA F, however unfortunately BA has by far and away the largest network of F seats in oneworld, so you are going to have to do them across the Atlantic. The AA Transcontinental is worth doing before they get rid within a year, but certainly nothing to write home about - it is obviously better than a domestic F flight. And then finally, you will struggle to really get to anywhere near 16 legs if you are doing only an AONE3, you'd need to add in at least Australia (only QF F available) to get some more routes. Personally I'd rather do CX F as my trans-pacific flight which means HKG (since JL F seems impossible to book) over QF F, but then you can only get QF F in and out of SIN (is there now a JNB option?). Finally, when you get into IRROPs, whist they will obviously treat you well, you get into the simple situation that most F cabins now are full days or weeks out, so you really do get stuck being bunged back into business.

So, now that BA has made "A" earn less than "D" I am even less tempted to book another AONE trip as the 30-40% premium is hard to justify objectively when you end up with 30% of the flights not really being in F. But, they are special otherwise.

docsxx Sep 6, 2025 12:52 am

Many thanks, littlevoices!

This is super useful and wise. It does put in context the challenge and the limited reward.

If I end off booking it, I shall report back!

Nimrod1965 Sep 6, 2025 3:36 am

Hello All,

I am currently planning a RTW for autumn/fall 2026 on One World carriers and have a question regarding seat selection. As I’m travelling solo and prefer a window seat, I’m looking to secure window seats on my flights. I am currently BA Silver and will retain through to April 2027:

I’m hoping that if I ticket with BA, my status will allow me to select preferred seats on all the flights in my itinerary, would this be a correct assumption?

Thanks in advance.

danger Sep 6, 2025 3:51 am


Originally Posted by Nimrod1965 (Post 37304830)
Hello All,

I am currently planning a RTW for autumn/fall 2026 on One World carriers and have a question regarding seat selection. As I’m travelling solo and prefer a window seat, I’m looking to secure window seats on my flights. I am currently BA Silver and will retain through to April 2027:

I’m hoping that if I ticket with BA, my status will allow me to select preferred seats on all the flights in my itinerary, would this be a correct assumption?

Thanks in advance.

Who issues your ticket has no impact on seat preferences. Each individual airline has its own policy. At a guess, oneworld Sapphire would allow you very good (and free) selections on most oneworld carriers, certainly in premium cabins anyway.

Nimrod1965 Sep 6, 2025 5:51 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 37304841)
Who issues your ticket has no impact on seat preferences. Each individual airline has its own policy. At a guess, oneworld Sapphire would allow you very good (and free) selections on most oneworld carriers, certainly in premium cabins anyway.

Thanks for your reply

flyhurl Sep 6, 2025 5:59 pm

When booking, always try for seat assignments. much more complicated later.

dvs7310 Sep 6, 2025 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by danger (Post 37304841)
Who issues your ticket has no impact on seat preferences. Each individual airline has its own policy. At a guess, oneworld Sapphire would allow you very good (and free) selections on most oneworld carriers, certainly in premium cabins anyway.

JL is one that I know holds back a lot of seats for Emeralds in business. But they'd all be available at OLCI. I've rarely not been able to do OLCI with JL even when they should be checking visas (like one way to China for example).

siw Sep 12, 2025 4:06 am

Are seat selection fees incurred on the RTW ticket for us that do not have oneworld status? If so, are they added on top of the RTW cost only when in contact with an airline and making a RTW booking? Thanks

danger Sep 12, 2025 4:14 am


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37315443)
Are seat selection fees incurred on the RTW ticket for us that do not have oneworld status? If so, are they added on top of the RTW cost only when in contact with an airline and making a RTW booking? Thanks

Any fees for seat selection are determined by individual carriers. The fare product itself doesn't dictate conditions. Such fees are paid to the individual airline at the time of selection and aren't part of the charge for the fare.

siw Sep 12, 2025 4:22 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 37315449)
Any fees for seat selection are determined by individual carriers. The fare product itself doesn't dictate conditions. Such fees are paid to the individual airline at the time of selection and aren't part of the charge for the fare.

So those are included when during an airline's online booking tool or with an airline's telephone booking person? That can add a few extra £100s to the RTW price quoted by the oneworld tool.

danger Sep 12, 2025 4:26 am


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37315456)
So those are included when during an airline's online booking tool or with an airline's telephone booking person? That can add a few extra £100s to the RTW price quoted by the oneworld tool.

The seat selection fees, where they apply, aren't included anywhere. You may pay them, where appropriate, directly to the airline when you choose the seats.

spherehopper Sep 12, 2025 4:36 am


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37315443)
Are seat selection fees incurred on the RTW ticket for us that do not have oneworld status? If so, are they added on top of the RTW cost only when in contact with an airline and making a RTW booking? Thanks

I have no status other than BAC Blue when I booked my RTW (DONE3) last month yet the agent was able to reserve seats on 11 of our 16 sectors. Yes, JAL blocks almost all window seats for it's higher status holders so 3 out of 4 JAL sectors are aisle seats unlike other airlines we're flying where we've got row 1 or 2.


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