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spherehopper Oct 27, 2025 9:41 am


Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234 (Post 37393689)
I am in the middle of DONE4 and started to plan for the next one(again), going to start from OSL again and looking for the below routings, not so creative again but it pretty much covers the place i need to go.

OSL-xDOH-HKG-SYD-AKL-HKG-CTS-HKG-HND-JFK-SFO-xDOH-VIE-xDOH-OSL

Was thinking detour the HND-JFK sector as HND-HNL-DFW-JFK to pick up some more miles on the way to JFK but if I travel back to SFO whether this is considered as backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America even i have a stopover in JFK?

I'm routing ... NAN-LAX-ANC-JFK-LAX-DFW etc for the miles and this also escaped the backtracking rule.

izzik Oct 27, 2025 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by spherehopper (Post 37394035)
I'm routing ... NAN-LAX-ANC-JFK-LAX-DFW etc for the miles and this also escaped the backtracking rule.

you're not traveling through Hawaii.. backtracking is not applicable at all.

spherehopper Oct 27, 2025 4:06 pm


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37394728)
you're not traveling through Hawaii.. backtracking is not applicable at all.

My agent told me it was applicable for transcontinental sectors however ANC-JFK-LAX isn't viewed as such whereas LAX-JFK-SFO would be.


Mwenenzi Oct 27, 2025 5:17 pm


Originally Posted by spherehopper (Post 37394799)
My agent told me it was applicable for transcontinental sectors however ANC-JFK-LAX isn't viewed as such whereas LAX-JFK-SFO would be.

Consult the rules, and not a travel agent, 3015 4. FLIGHT APPLICATION / ROUTINGS
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...51ff64aa31.jpg
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zoombee Oct 28, 2025 2:36 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37394898)
Consult the rules, and not a travel agent, 3015 4. FLIGHT APPLICATION / ROUTINGS
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...51ff64aa31.jpg
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Oh! When did lax/sfo to jfk drop off the list? I missed that. Very nice.

danger Oct 28, 2025 4:17 am


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 37395496)
Oh! When did lax/sfo to jfk drop off the list? I missed that. Very nice.

California is in column A. New York is in column B.

Jun_Man Oct 28, 2025 5:12 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 37395589)
California is in column A. New York is in column B.

Has it been determined one way or another how Alaska is treated? I’ve seen this discussed previously but haven’t (so far as I can recall) seen a confirmation from anyone that’s done it. Alaska is not in column A, so per the table ANC-JFK-SFO is allowed?

pandaperth Oct 28, 2025 6:53 am


Originally Posted by Jun_Man (Post 37395637)
Has it been determined one way or another how Alaska is treated? I’ve seen this discussed previously but haven’t (so far as I can recall) seen a confirmation from anyone that’s done it. Alaska is not in column A, so per the table ANC-JFK-SFO is allowed?

Re-read Mwenenzi 's post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/37394898-post1174.html
It clearly states the rule for Alaska "Additionally, only one flight to State of Alaska and one flight from State of Alaska permitted."

Jun_Man Oct 28, 2025 7:13 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 37395741)
Re-read Mwenenzi 's post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/37394898-post1174.html
It clearly states the rule for Alaska "Additionally, only one flight to State of Alaska and one flight from State of Alaska permitted."

Ah sorry, reading on a phone and didn’t see the text at the bottom. It seems counterintuitive that ANC-JFK doesn’t count as transcon, but happy days that it doesn’t!

zoombee Oct 29, 2025 3:12 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 37395589)
California is in column A. New York is in column B.

Doh! I quick scanned for cities.

izzik Oct 29, 2025 9:38 am

In my limited experience, I feel like AS availability in D bucket is hard to come by.. and essentially nil during the summer months (peak Alaska tourist season).

anc305 Oct 29, 2025 11:48 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37397859)
In my limited experience, I feel like AS availability in D bucket is hard to come by.. and essentially nil during the summer months (peak Alaska tourist season).

My experience also. The best bet is AA out of DFW to ANC . QR also codeshares on these flights and has " D " when connecting to DOH either coming or going. Travelling between DOH and Alaska during the summer months is a nice change of weather.

Dr. HFH Oct 29, 2025 7:32 pm

AA used to have nonstop LAX/MBJ service, and it wasn't on the prohibited list. Earned plenty of miles on that one until they figured it out and added it to the list, just before terminating the service altogether.

nufnuf77 Oct 30, 2025 1:49 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37397859)
In my limited experience, I feel like AS availability in D bucket is hard to come by.. and essentially nil during the summer months (peak Alaska tourist season).

I recently booked a client on ANC JFK and there was 1 D seat for the whole month of August on the route

littlevoices Nov 2, 2025 1:00 am


Originally Posted by nufnuf77 (Post 37399078)
I recently booked a client on ANC JFK and there was 1 D seat for the whole month of August on the route

I booked Alaska/ANC for next July and saw the same problems on D class availability from AS (AA is just fine) particularly as I needed 4 seats. My notes were:
  • If you do ANC-DFW == No space, so do ANC-DFW/PDX/SEA-XXX == Space (pretty horrible to do two US domestics on one day/within 24 hours with young kids so I tried to avoid)
  • I ended up exiting via ORD and entering via SEA-DOH as I found a random set of seats - I actually changed my whole trip as originally I was going to do Asia - West Coast - ANC - East Coast - Doha. As a result of the availability challenge I switched to be HKG - JFK - ORD - ANC - SEA - DOH
  • I could have gotten DFW in there, but when you look at the distances the "optimal" route is really to go from JFK-LAX-ANC (better seats, more miles), but sadly I also struggled with the transcontinental as well


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