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Originally Posted by TQ2
(Post 37584480)
As a follow on to my previous post yesterday, I have been looking for AA codeshares in Asia. I can find some e.g. AA 8486 from BKK to HND operated by JAL. Can these codeshares be used if they are not immediately followed/preceded by a trans-pacific flight. I'm not sure if they are available independantly or if the agreement between AA and JAL is to allow more destinations to/from US and hence carry additional constraints on usage.
So far I've found AA codeshares with JAL/Cathay for BKK, SIN, CGK, ICN, SGN and DPS but nothing in Australia or NZ If crediting to AAdvantage AA codeshares may not be the best for AA earnings. Need to do calculations . Link--> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...age-miles.html QF has some AA codeshares in Australia and trans Tasman (AU<--NZ). Guess will be for flights that could connect to AA long haul services. Nothing in NZ as QF or any oneworld airlines do not operate in NZ. QF has some codeshares with Jetstar JQ NZ (LCC owned by QF), which are OK for *ONE* and GLOB* tickets |
Originally Posted by TQ2
(Post 37584480)
As a follow on to my previous post yesterday, I have been looking for AA codeshares in Asia. I can find some e.g. AA 8486 from BKK to HND operated by JAL. Can these codeshares be used if they are not immediately followed/preceded by a trans-pacific flight. I'm not sure if they are available independantly or if the agreement between AA and JAL is to allow more destinations to/from US and hence carry additional constraints on usage.
So far I've found AA codeshares with JAL/Cathay for BKK, SIN, CGK, ICN, SGN and DPS but nothing in Australia or NZ |
In my limited experience, AA RTW desk will be completely fine with assigning AA flight numbers but only if the other airline allows it. I don't know the logic behind what works and what doesn't, but AA has said that travel agents can book AA codeshares when AA themselves cannot. They also said that they can get the AA codeshare on routes that "touch" the US.. but everything else -- YMMV. Never hurts to ask if having the AA flt number is important (which it is, for AY earners).
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Thanks all, this is for a planned RTW ticket with points credited to AY+. I was originally planning on using AY flights but having it ticketed by another airline, not realising that AY come up with a notional value so they can use revenue based points. I'm not so bothered for the "shorter" flights but keen to get 250% for the longer ones.
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37584666)
If crediting to AAdvantage AA codeshares may not be the best for AA earnings. Need to do calculations.
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Originally Posted by TQ2
(Post 37584480)
As a follow on to my previous post yesterday, I have been looking for AA codeshares in Asia. I can find some e.g. AA 8486 from BKK to HND operated by JAL. Can these codeshares be used if they are not immediately followed/preceded by a trans-pacific flight. I'm not sure if they are available independantly or if the agreement between AA and JAL is to allow more destinations to/from US and hence carry additional constraints on usage.
So far I've found AA codeshares with JAL/Cathay for BKK, SIN, CGK, ICN, SGN and DPS but nothing in Australia or NZ Code:
DOAY5096/10FEBEven then, your mileage may vary depending on the travel agent you're using (including the AA RTW desk) as they've definitely been happy to book me on Q-coded codeshares even though the "online" aspect wasn't true. Conversely, I've had the rates desk change some unrestricted codeshares to the prime code for seemingly no reason. 🤷🏼♂️ (No those were not AA-operated flights) |
Originally Posted by DY444
(Post 37584932)
I'm not a ticket expert but what seemed to work for me was checking if the route was bookable on the desired codeshare airline's website. So for example if you want to fly from A to B with an AA flight number then see if you can book the desired flight on the AA website with AA codeshare flight numbers. If not you most likely can't book it because if the marketing airline doesn't let you book it then who will?
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I am trying to ticket the following through BA:
1. KHI-DOH BA (operated by QR): transit 2. DOH-LHR BA (operated by QR): transit (as less than 24 hours in London) 3. LHR-DXB BA: stopover 4. DXB-DOH QR: transit 5. DOH-MIA AA (operated by QR): transit 6. MIA-JFK AA: stopover 7. JFK-DFW AA: transit 8. DFW-ANC AA: transit 9. ANC-DFW AA: transit 10. DFW-MIA AA: stopover 11. MIA-LAX AA: transit 12. LAX-HKG CX: stopover (AA not available in D) 13. HKG-DPS CX: stopover 14. DPS-HKG CX: transit 15. HKG-CMB CX: transit 16. CMB-KHI UL The quote provided is 6253GBP, out of which 3449GBP is the base fare. This is correct. YQ is around 914GBP and YR is around 698GBP. RGGA (whatever that is) is 922.90GBP.Fare - £3,449.00 YQAD - £531.30 YRVB - £606.00 YQAC - £382.90 YRVA - £92.00 UBAS - £31.15 RGGA - £922.90 SPEB - £7.90 YDDE - £7.40 G4AF - £24.20 PZAV - £2.20 QAAP - £24.20 R9SE - £4.00 AEAD - £15.00 F6TO - £9.00 TPSE - £1.00 ZRAP - £2.00 AYSE - £8.20 USAP - £25.80 USAS - £17.20 XACO - £2.80 XYCR - £5.20 YCAE - £5.40 G3RE - £32.10 HKAE - £18.90 I5SE - £12.20 D5CB - £10.50 XF - £3.30 This feels quite heavy on YQ/YQ/taxes. I also have no idea what RGGA is. Any suggestions what I could do to reduce these? I know I'm going through LHR but have already limited this to a transit. I'm crediting to AY. |
Originally Posted by SASFlyer
(Post 37587554)
I am trying to ticket the following through BA:
1. KHI-DOH BA (operated by QR): transit 2. DOH-LHR BA (operated by QR): transit (as less than 24 hours in London) 3. LHR-DXB BA: stopover 4. DXB-DOH QR: transit 5. DOH-MIA AA (operated by QR): transit 6. MIA-JFK AA: stopover 7. JFK-DFW AA: transit 8. DFW-ANC AA: transit 9. ANC-DFW AA: transit 10. DFW-MIA AA: stopover 11. MIA-LAX AA: transit 12. LAX-HKG CX: stopover (AA not available in D) 13. HKG-DPS CX: stopover 14. DPS-HKG CX: transit 15. HKG-CMB CX: transit 16. CMB-KHI UL The quote provided is 6253GBP, out of which 3449GBP is the base fare. This is correct. YQ is around 914GBP and YR is around 698GBP. RGGA (whatever that is) is 922.90GBP.Fare - £3,449.00 YQAD - £531.30 YRVB - £606.00 YQAC - £382.90 YRVA - £92.00 UBAS - £31.15 RGGA - £922.90 SPEB - £7.90 YDDE - £7.40 G4AF - £24.20 PZAV - £2.20 QAAP - £24.20 R9SE - £4.00 AEAD - £15.00 F6TO - £9.00 TPSE - £1.00 ZRAP - £2.00 AYSE - £8.20 USAP - £25.80 USAS - £17.20 XACO - £2.80 XYCR - £5.20 YCAE - £5.40 G3RE - £32.10 HKAE - £18.90 I5SE - £12.20 D5CB - £10.50 XF - £3.30 This feels quite heavy on YQ/YQ/taxes. I also have no idea what RGGA is. Any suggestions what I could do to reduce these? I know I'm going through LHR but have already limited this to a transit. I'm crediting to AY. |
I believe RGGA is the Pakistan Federal Excise Duty which applies to flights leaving Pakistan.
In this case, it's a flat 350,000 PKR which is roughly the 922 GBP. This would apply regardless of what you do for a biz RTW ticket ex-Pakistan. |
DOH-LHR BA (operated by QR): transit (as less than 24 hours in London)
Originally Posted by DY444
(Post 37587572)
Flying out of the UK usually attracts a premium so trying an alternative to that might be a start.
Departures from most, but not all, UK airports has the UK APD -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Passenger_Duty For UK transits (<24hrs) APD is not charged. |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37587623)
Not the simple.
Departures from most, but not all, UK airports has the UK APD -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Passenger_Duty For UK transits (<24hrs) APD is not charged. If RGGA is Pakistan Federal Excise Duty as per @izzik then I wonder whether I should just start in Japan to ditch this and a ton of YQ/YR? |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37587623)
Not that simple.
Departures from most, but not all, UK airports has the UK APD -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Passenger_Duty For UK transits (<24hrs) APD is not charged. |
Originally Posted by SASFlyer
(Post 37587637)
Yes, indeed - this is why I have limited the transit in London to less than 24 hours.
If RGGA is Pakistan Federal Excise Duty as per @izzik then I wonder whether I should just start in Japan to ditch this and a ton of YQ/YR? |
Originally Posted by sasflyer
(Post 37587554)
i am trying to ticket the following through ba:
1. Khi-doh ba (operated by qr): Transit 2. Doh-lhr ba (operated by qr): Transit (as less than 24 hours in london) 3. Lhr-dxb ba: Stopover 4. Dxb-doh qr: Transit 5. Doh-mia aa (operated by qr): Transit 6. Mia-jfk aa: Stopover 7. Jfk-dfw aa: Transit 8. Dfw-anc aa: Transit 9. Anc-dfw aa: Transit 10. Dfw-mia aa: Stopover 11. Mia-lax aa: Transit 12. Lax-hkg cx: Stopover (aa not available in d) 13. Hkg-dps cx: Stopover 14. Dps-hkg cx: Transit 15. Hkg-cmb cx: Transit 16. Cmb-khi ul the quote provided is 6253gbp, out of which 3449gbp is the base fare. This is correct. Yq is around 914gbp and yr is around 698gbp. Rgga (whatever that is) is 922.90gbp.fare - £3,449.00 yqad - £531.30 yrvb - £606.00 yqac - £382.90 yrva - £92.00 ubas - £31.15 rgga - £922.90 speb - £7.90 ydde - £7.40 g4af - £24.20 pzav - £2.20 qaap - £24.20 r9se - £4.00 aead - £15.00 f6to - £9.00 tpse - £1.00 zrap - £2.00 ayse - £8.20 usap - £25.80 usas - £17.20 xaco - £2.80 xycr - £5.20 ycae - £5.40 g3re - £32.10 hkae - £18.90 i5se - £12.20 d5cb - £10.50 xf - £3.30 this feels quite heavy on yq/yq/taxes. I also have no idea what rgga is. Any suggestions what i could do to reduce these? I know i'm going through lhr but have already limited this to a transit. I'm crediting to ay. Code:
wqkhi/aba/cd28feb/xdoh/aba01mar/xlhr/aba15mardxb/aqr20mar/xdoh/aaa23mar/xmia/aaa30marjfk/aaa13oct/xdfw/aaa13oct/xanc/aaa15oct/xdfw/aaa17octmia/aaa18oct/xlax/acx23octhkg/acx25octdps/acx25oct/xhkg/acx27oct/xcmb/aul27octkhi-rw/mgbp/vba« |
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