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Mwenenzi Feb 7, 2026 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by TQ2 (Post 37584480)
As a follow on to my previous post yesterday, I have been looking for AA codeshares in Asia. I can find some e.g. AA 8486 from BKK to HND operated by JAL. Can these codeshares be used if they are not immediately followed/preceded by a trans-pacific flight. I'm not sure if they are available independantly or if the agreement between AA and JAL is to allow more destinations to/from US and hence carry additional constraints on usage.
So far I've found AA codeshares with JAL/Cathay for BKK, SIN, CGK, ICN, SGN and DPS but nothing in Australia or NZ

The rules for AA codeshares may vary by country. Ask the AA RTW desk. They would be keen on AA codeshares, as would maximize the AA share of the ticket.
If crediting to AAdvantage AA codeshares may not be the best for AA earnings. Need to do calculations .
Link--> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...age-miles.html

QF has some AA codeshares in Australia and trans Tasman (AU<--NZ). Guess will be for flights that could connect to AA long haul services.
Nothing in NZ as QF or any oneworld airlines do not operate in NZ. QF has some codeshares with Jetstar JQ NZ (LCC owned by QF), which are OK for *ONE* and GLOB* tickets

DY444 Feb 8, 2026 2:13 am


Originally Posted by TQ2 (Post 37584480)
As a follow on to my previous post yesterday, I have been looking for AA codeshares in Asia. I can find some e.g. AA 8486 from BKK to HND operated by JAL. Can these codeshares be used if they are not immediately followed/preceded by a trans-pacific flight. I'm not sure if they are available independantly or if the agreement between AA and JAL is to allow more destinations to/from US and hence carry additional constraints on usage.
So far I've found AA codeshares with JAL/Cathay for BKK, SIN, CGK, ICN, SGN and DPS but nothing in Australia or NZ

I'm not a ticket expert but what seemed to work for me was checking if the route was bookable on the desired codeshare airline's website. So for example if you want to fly from A to B with an AA flight number then see if you can book the desired flight on the AA website with AA codeshare flight numbers. If not you most likely can't book it because if the marketing airline doesn't let you book it then who will?

izzik Feb 8, 2026 4:28 am

In my limited experience, AA RTW desk will be completely fine with assigning AA flight numbers but only if the other airline allows it. I don't know the logic behind what works and what doesn't, but AA has said that travel agents can book AA codeshares when AA themselves cannot. They also said that they can get the AA codeshare on routes that "touch" the US.. but everything else -- YMMV. Never hurts to ask if having the AA flt number is important (which it is, for AY earners).

TQ2 Feb 8, 2026 7:35 am

Thanks all, this is for a planned RTW ticket with points credited to AY+. I was originally planning on using AY flights but having it ticketed by another airline, not realising that AY come up with a notional value so they can use revenue based points. I'm not so bothered for the "shorter" flights but keen to get 250% for the longer ones.

Dr. HFH Feb 8, 2026 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37584666)
If crediting to AAdvantage AA codeshares may not be the best for AA earnings. Need to do calculations.

An important point to remember. Similarly, if you're crediting to QRPC, AA codeshares on QR metal give you better earnings than QR marketed flights on QR metal.

link2 Feb 8, 2026 11:33 pm


Originally Posted by TQ2 (Post 37584480)
As a follow on to my previous post yesterday, I have been looking for AA codeshares in Asia. I can find some e.g. AA 8486 from BKK to HND operated by JAL. Can these codeshares be used if they are not immediately followed/preceded by a trans-pacific flight. I'm not sure if they are available independantly or if the agreement between AA and JAL is to allow more destinations to/from US and hence carry additional constraints on usage.
So far I've found AA codeshares with JAL/Cathay for BKK, SIN, CGK, ICN, SGN and DPS but nothing in Australia or NZ

Codeshare flights can have traffic restrictions attached to them. Unfortunately I can't look up your specific example because I only have access to ExpertFlyer (not a GDS) and EF doesn't appear to be able to show traffic restriction codes for AA-marketed flights, but it's not uncommon for codeshares to be coded Q ("INTL ONLINE CONNECTING OR STOPOVR TRAFFIC ONLY"). For example, here's AY5096 (operated by CX134):

Code:

DOAY5096/10FEB
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* AY5096 1 TU 10FEB26
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
MEL 0840 TU JCDRIWETPYB/M 359 9:15
HKMLVSNQO/M
HKG 1455 TU 9:15
COMMENTS-
1.MEL HKG - COMMERCIAL DUPLICATE - OPERATED BY
CATHAY PACIFIC
2.MEL HKG - AIRCRAFT OWNER CATHAY PACIFIC
3.MEL HKG - COCKPIT CREW CATHAY PACIFIC
4.MEL HKG - CABIN CREW CATHAY PACIFIC
5.ENTIRE FLT- Q/ INTL ONLINE CONNECTING OR STOPOVR TRAFFIC ONL
6.MEL HKG - OPERATIONAL LEG CX 0134
7.MEL HKG - DEPARTS TERMINAL 2
SW

As I understand it, Q means that both stopovers and transits are allowed but only if it's preceded or followed by an international flight marketed by the same airline.

Even then, your mileage may vary depending on the travel agent you're using (including the AA RTW desk) as they've definitely been happy to book me on Q-coded codeshares even though the "online" aspect wasn't true. Conversely, I've had the rates desk change some unrestricted codeshares to the prime code for seemingly no reason. 🤷🏼‍♂️ (No those were not AA-operated flights)

link2 Feb 8, 2026 11:36 pm


Originally Posted by DY444 (Post 37584932)
I'm not a ticket expert but what seemed to work for me was checking if the route was bookable on the desired codeshare airline's website. So for example if you want to fly from A to B with an AA flight number then see if you can book the desired flight on the AA website with AA codeshare flight numbers. If not you most likely can't book it because if the marketing airline doesn't let you book it then who will?

The flight being available standalone is a sufficient but not a necessary condition. For example AA have been happy to book me on AA, AY, and JL codeshares (sometimes even despite traffic restrictions) even though none of those flights would be bookable on aa.com.

SASFlyer Feb 9, 2026 12:09 pm

I am trying to ticket the following through BA:
1. KHI-DOH BA (operated by QR): transit
2. DOH-LHR BA (operated by QR): transit (as less than 24 hours in London)
3. LHR-DXB BA: stopover
4. DXB-DOH QR: transit
5. DOH-MIA AA (operated by QR): transit
6. MIA-JFK AA: stopover
7. JFK-DFW AA: transit
8. DFW-ANC AA: transit
9. ANC-DFW AA: transit
10. DFW-MIA AA: stopover
11. MIA-LAX AA: transit
12. LAX-HKG CX: stopover (AA not available in D)
13. HKG-DPS CX: stopover
14. DPS-HKG CX: transit
15. HKG-CMB CX: transit
16. CMB-KHI UL

The quote provided is 6253GBP, out of which 3449GBP is the base fare. This is correct. YQ is around 914GBP and YR is around 698GBP. RGGA (whatever that is) is 922.90GBP.Fare - £3,449.00

YQAD - £531.30

YRVB - £606.00

YQAC - £382.90

YRVA - £92.00

UBAS - £31.15

RGGA - £922.90

SPEB - £7.90

YDDE - £7.40

G4AF - £24.20

PZAV - £2.20

QAAP - £24.20

R9SE - £4.00

AEAD - £15.00

F6TO - £9.00

TPSE - £1.00

ZRAP - £2.00

AYSE - £8.20

USAP - £25.80

USAS - £17.20

XACO - £2.80

XYCR - £5.20

YCAE - £5.40

G3RE - £32.10

HKAE - £18.90

I5SE - £12.20

D5CB - £10.50
XF - £3.30

This feels quite heavy on YQ/YQ/taxes. I also have no idea what RGGA is. Any suggestions what I could do to reduce these? I know I'm going through LHR but have already limited this to a transit. I'm crediting to AY.

DY444 Feb 9, 2026 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by SASFlyer (Post 37587554)
I am trying to ticket the following through BA:
1. KHI-DOH BA (operated by QR): transit
2. DOH-LHR BA (operated by QR): transit (as less than 24 hours in London)
3. LHR-DXB BA: stopover
4. DXB-DOH QR: transit
5. DOH-MIA AA (operated by QR): transit
6. MIA-JFK AA: stopover
7. JFK-DFW AA: transit
8. DFW-ANC AA: transit
9. ANC-DFW AA: transit
10. DFW-MIA AA: stopover
11. MIA-LAX AA: transit
12. LAX-HKG CX: stopover (AA not available in D)
13. HKG-DPS CX: stopover
14. DPS-HKG CX: transit
15. HKG-CMB CX: transit
16. CMB-KHI UL

The quote provided is 6253GBP, out of which 3449GBP is the base fare. This is correct. YQ is around 914GBP and YR is around 698GBP. RGGA (whatever that is) is 922.90GBP.Fare - £3,449.00

YQAD - £531.30

YRVB - £606.00

YQAC - £382.90

YRVA - £92.00

UBAS - £31.15

RGGA - £922.90

SPEB - £7.90

YDDE - £7.40

G4AF - £24.20

PZAV - £2.20

QAAP - £24.20

R9SE - £4.00

AEAD - £15.00

F6TO - £9.00

TPSE - £1.00

ZRAP - £2.00

AYSE - £8.20

USAP - £25.80

USAS - £17.20

XACO - £2.80

XYCR - £5.20

YCAE - £5.40

G3RE - £32.10

HKAE - £18.90

I5SE - £12.20

D5CB - £10.50
XF - £3.30

This feels quite heavy on YQ/YQ/taxes. I also have no idea what RGGA is. Any suggestions what I could do to reduce these? I know I'm going through LHR but have already limited this to a transit. I'm crediting to AY.

Flying out of the UK usually attracts a premium so trying an alternative to that might be a start.

izzik Feb 9, 2026 12:26 pm

I believe RGGA is the Pakistan Federal Excise Duty which applies to flights leaving Pakistan.
In this case, it's a flat 350,000 PKR which is roughly the 922 GBP.
This would apply regardless of what you do for a biz RTW ticket ex-Pakistan.

Mwenenzi Feb 9, 2026 12:49 pm


DOH-LHR BA (operated by QR): transit (as less than 24 hours in London)

Originally Posted by DY444 (Post 37587572)
Flying out of the UK usually attracts a premium so trying an alternative to that might be a start.

Not that simple.
Departures from most, but not all, UK airports has the UK APD -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Passenger_Duty
For UK transits (<24hrs) APD is not charged.

SASFlyer Feb 9, 2026 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37587623)
Not the simple.
Departures from most, but not all, UK airports has the UK APD -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Passenger_Duty
For UK transits (<24hrs) APD is not charged.

Yes, indeed - this is why I have limited the transit in London to less than 24 hours.

If RGGA is Pakistan Federal Excise Duty as per @izzik then I wonder whether I should just start in Japan to ditch this and a ton of YQ/YR?

DY444 Feb 9, 2026 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37587623)
Not that simple.
Departures from most, but not all, UK airports has the UK APD -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Passenger_Duty
For UK transits (<24hrs) APD is not charged.

Doh !! I even knew that! Serves me right for not reading the itinerary properly.

DY444 Feb 9, 2026 1:49 pm


Originally Posted by SASFlyer (Post 37587637)
Yes, indeed - this is why I have limited the transit in London to less than 24 hours.

If RGGA is Pakistan Federal Excise Duty as per @izzik then I wonder whether I should just start in Japan to ditch this and a ton of YQ/YR?

Japan is regularly cited as one of the cheaper places to start a RTW ticket so might be worth a look if it's an option for you.

ernestnywang Feb 9, 2026 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by sasflyer (Post 37587554)
i am trying to ticket the following through ba:
1. Khi-doh ba (operated by qr): Transit
2. Doh-lhr ba (operated by qr): Transit (as less than 24 hours in london)
3. Lhr-dxb ba: Stopover
4. Dxb-doh qr: Transit
5. Doh-mia aa (operated by qr): Transit
6. Mia-jfk aa: Stopover
7. Jfk-dfw aa: Transit
8. Dfw-anc aa: Transit
9. Anc-dfw aa: Transit
10. Dfw-mia aa: Stopover
11. Mia-lax aa: Transit
12. Lax-hkg cx: Stopover (aa not available in d)
13. Hkg-dps cx: Stopover
14. Dps-hkg cx: Transit
15. Hkg-cmb cx: Transit
16. Cmb-khi ul

the quote provided is 6253gbp, out of which 3449gbp is the base fare. This is correct. Yq is around 914gbp and yr is around 698gbp. Rgga (whatever that is) is 922.90gbp.fare - £3,449.00

yqad - £531.30

yrvb - £606.00

yqac - £382.90

yrva - £92.00

ubas - £31.15

rgga - £922.90

speb - £7.90

ydde - £7.40

g4af - £24.20

pzav - £2.20

qaap - £24.20

r9se - £4.00

aead - £15.00

f6to - £9.00

tpse - £1.00

zrap - £2.00

ayse - £8.20

usap - £25.80

usas - £17.20

xaco - £2.80

xycr - £5.20

ycae - £5.40

g3re - £32.10

hkae - £18.90

i5se - £12.20

d5cb - £10.50
xf - £3.30

this feels quite heavy on yq/yq/taxes. I also have no idea what rgga is. Any suggestions what i could do to reduce these? I know i'm going through lhr but have already limited this to a transit. I'm crediting to ay.

Code:

wqkhi/aba/cd28feb/xdoh/aba01mar/xlhr/aba15mardxb/aqr20mar/xdoh/aaa23mar/xmia/aaa30marjfk/aaa13oct/xdfw/aaa13oct/xanc/aaa15oct/xdfw/aaa17octmia/aaa18oct/xlax/acx23octhkg/acx25octdps/acx25oct/xhkg/acx27oct/xcmb/aul27octkhi-rw/mgbp/vba«

    psgr type  adt
      fare basis book code          fare tax/fees/chgs  total
    01 done3      d/d/d/d/* gbp    3444.00  2772.25    6216.25 adt
    02 done3      d/d/d/d/* gbp    3454.00  2772.25    6226.25 adt
    03 done4      d/d/d/d/* gbp    3940.00  2919.25    6859.25 adt
    04 done4      d/d/d/d/* gbp    3950.00  2919.25    6869.25 adt
    05 done5      d/d/d/d/* gbp    4673.00  2919.25    7592.25 adt
    06 done5      d/d/d/d/* gbp    4683.00  2919.25    7602.25 adt
    07 done6      d/d/d/d/* gbp    5165.00  2992.85    8157.85 adt
    08 done6      d/d/d/d/* gbp    5175.00  2992.85    8167.85 adt
    *01-08*flight restrictions apply
    *01-08*adv res/ticketing required
    *01-08*confirmed res required
    *01-08*min/max stay requirements apply
    *02,04,06,08*payment/tkt restrictions apply
    attn*see other fares - use xm qualifier, e.g. Wqcty/acrcty-xm
    attn*see all fares - use al qualifier, e.g. Wqcty/acrcty-al
    ** totals include known taxes and fees **
    ** total fare, taxes and fees may change once flights are
      confirmed **
    .

Wq¥df1«

    wq¥df1
    psgr type adt
    fare  usd  4685.00 equiv gbp  3444.00
    tax  gbp      7.90sp gbp    920.50rg gbp  1843.85xt
    total gbp  6216.25
    khi ba x/doh ba x/lon ba dxb qr x/doh aa x/mia aa nyc aa x/dfw a
    a x/anc aa x/dfw aa mia aa x/lax cx hkg cx dps cx x/hkg cx x/cmb
    ul khi4685.00nuc4685.00end roe1.00
    xt gbp7.40yd gbp24.20qa gbp2.20pz gbp24.20g4 gbp31.15ub
    xt gbp15.00ae gbp1.00tp gbp2.00zr gbp9.00f6 gbp43.00us
    xt gbp5.40yc gbp5.10xy gbp2.80xa gbp8.20ay gbp18.80hk
    xt gbp32.00g3 gbp12.20i5 gbp10.50d5 gbp669.80yr gbp912.60yq
    xt gbp4.00r9 gbp3.30xflax4.5
    rate used 1usd-0.73509987gbp
    /////////////// traffic document issued in rmq ///////////////
    pu -fare basis-cur  nuc amt element description ----------- gi
    01 done3      usd  4685.00 khi-khi aa /rt rtg              rw
                        4685.00    -    total nuc
    -tax amt/gbp/-- cur  codes  description-----tax type/sequence--
          530.40        /yqi service fee - carrier-imposed misc
              24.60:usd    33.50 *khi* *ba*              9002600
            252.90:usd  344.00 *doh* *ba*              9002987
            252.90:usd  344.00 *lhr* *ba*              9002987
          382.20        /yqf service fee - carrier-imposed fuel
            161.70:usd  220.00 *dxb* *qr*                  835  ¥

md«

            220.50:usd  300.00 *cmb* *ul*                425737  ¥
          564.60        /yri service fee - carrier-imposed misc
              11.80:usd    16.00 *dxb* *qr*                814600
            552.80:usd  752.00 *doh* *aa*              5515000
          105.20        /yrf service fee - carrier-imposed fuel
              53.60:usd    72.90 *lax* *cx*              1602720
              13.40:usd    18.20 *hkg* *cx*              9006115
              13.40:usd    18.20 *dps* *cx*              9006115
              24.80:usd    33.80 *hkg* *cx*              1418320
          15.00        ae/ae4 passenger service charge internation
              15.00:aed      75 *dxb* *qr*          004  115000
            9.00        ae/f62 passenger facilities charge
              9.00:aed      45 *dxb* *qr*          002  141875
            1.00        ae/tp  passenger security and safety fee
              1.00:aed        5 *dxb* *qr*          001  110000
            1.00        ae/zr  international advanced passenger inf
              1.00:aed        5 *lhr* *ba*          001  115000
            1.00        ae/zr2 international advanced passenger inf
              1.00:aed        5 *dxb* *qr*          002  125000
          31.15        gb/ub  passenger service charge departures
              31.15:gbp    31.15 *lhr* *ba*          001  4907500
          32.00        hk/g3  airport construction fee
              15.10:hkd      160 *hkg* *cx*          001  105000  ¥

md«

              16.90:hkd      180 *hkg* *cx*          001    75025  ¥
          18.80        hk/hk  air passenger departure tax
              18.80:hkd      200 *hkg* *cx*          001    15000
          12.20        hk/i5  airport passenger security charge
              6.10:hkd      65 *hkg* *cx*          001  110000
              6.10:hkd      65 *hkg* *cx*          001  110000
          10.50        id/d5  passenger service charge
              10.50:idr  240000 *dps* *cx*          001  1687500
          920.50        pk/rg3 federal excise duty fed
            920.50:pkr  350000 *khi* *ba*          003  103808
            7.90        pk/sp  embarkation fee
              7.90:pkr    3000 *khi* *ba*          001    12626
            7.40        pk/yd  infrastructure development charge
              7.40:pkr    2800 *khi* *ba*          001  129687
          24.20        qa/g4  passenger facility charge pfc
              12.10:qar    60.00 *doh* *ba*          001  105000
              12.10:qar    60.00 *doh* *aa*          001  105000
            2.20        qa/pz2 passenger service charge arrivals
              1.10:usd    1.50 *dxb* *qr*          002  112500
              1.10:usd    1.50 *khi* *ba*          002  112500
          24.20        qa/qa  airport fee international
              12.10:qar    60.00 *doh* *ba*          001    25000
              12.10:qar    60.00 *doh* *aa*          001    25000  ¥

md«

            4.00        qa/r9  passenger safety and security fee ps¥
              2.00:qar    10.00 *doh* *ba*          001  110000
              2.00:qar    10.00 *doh* *aa*          001  110000
            8.20        us/ay  passenger civil aviation security se
              4.10:usd    5.60 *mia*              001  808212
              4.10:usd    5.60 *jfk*              001  828212
          43.00        us/us2 transportation tax international dep
              8.60:usd    11.70 *anc* *aa*          014  126328
              17.20:usd    23.40 *lax* *cx*          014  198769
              17.20:usd    23.40 *dxb* *qr*          015  149384
            2.80        us/xa  aphis passenger fee passengers
              2.80:usd    3.84 *doh* *aa*          001  112500
            5.10        us/xy2 immigration user fee
              5.10:usd    7.00 *doh* *aa*          002  130000
            5.40        us/yc  customs user fee
              5.40:usd    7.39 *doh* *aa*          001  125000
            3.30        us/xf  passenger facility charge
              3.30:usd    4.50 *lax*                 
    -iata rates of exchange used in fare calculation --------------
      1.00000000  usd-roe  eff 01jan18*indef
    -bsr used in fare calculation ---------------------------------
    1usd:0.73509987gbp               
    -bsr used in tax calculation ----------------------------------¥

md«

    1usd:0.73509987gbp                1aed:0.2001447gbp          ¥
    1hkd:0.09409153gbp                1idr:0.00004361gbp
    1pkr:0.00263gbp                  1qar:0.20186733gbp
    -pricing unit trip type ---------------------------------------
      pu 01 - normal  rw single fare component
    .



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