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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37493764)
HNL-HND non stop is flown by HA & JL. HNL-NRT by JL. HA brand, while owned by AS (oneword airline) is not an allowable airline. So need to go back to mainland USA, unless fly JL. HA brand is expected to join oneworld March 2026.
However when you buy a *ONE* the rules are locked in. That includes only the allowable airlines at that time. Cannot add/change to "new" airlines. Code:
1 BA 775D 01FEB 7 OSLLHR*SS1 0720 0905 /DCBA /ECode:
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37493764)
Other airlines (Amadues) are about 365 days out.
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 37497054)
HA flights post-22APR2026 are considered prime AS flights and can already be booked in xONEx. At least this is allowed on when autopriced by Sabre. The flight information of these flights shows "ONEWORLD," too.
<snip> From what I have read there is now 1 airline operating certificate, with all flights AS prime flight numbers. The “join” date seems to correlate with the IATA seasons. Maybe when they turn off the HA reservation system and add all HA flights to the AS reservation system. IATA seasons define the airline industry's yearly flight schedule into two main periods: Summer (last Sunday in March to last Saturday in October) and Winter (last Sunday in October to last Saturday in March), aligning with Northern Hemisphere daylight saving time changes for global coordination, affecting routes, capacity, and pricing |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37497353)
Once Alaska AS took over Hawaiian Airlines HA as an airline it does not exist. Always found it strange OW stated HA would join OW. To me more that AS schedules~routes would expand greatly with the former HA operations fully integrated into the AS. HA as such does not join oneworld.
From what I have read there is now 1 airline operating certificate, with all flights AS prime flight numbers. The “join” date seems to correlate with the IATA seasons. Maybe when they turn off the HA reservation system and add all HA flights to the AS reservation system. I don't know why AS/HA chose to set the effective date on 22APR, but that is indeed the date HA will switch back from Amadeus to Sabre. It is NOT the date that marks the IATA season change, which is 29MAR in 2026, nor is it the date North American daylight saving will start. HA used to be on Sabre, like AS, but chose to migrate to Amadeus just not so long before the AS merger. On hindsight, the effort was definitely wasted. Code:
V*AS8021/21APR« |
Thank you so much for everyone's help! I got the ticket priced and purchased with TA.
Ticket Base Fare £3741.00 Ticket Tax Fare £2184.73 Total Amount £5925.73 LAS-HNL I have to break it to LAS-LAX-HNL, I am wondering if I can "re-route" it after April 2026, to a direct LAS-HNL. But the price is good, I am not complaining :) |
Originally Posted by meowycrystal
(Post 37507631)
Thank you so much for everyone's help! I got the ticket priced and purchased with TA.
Ticket Base Fare £3741.00 Ticket Tax Fare £2184.73 Total Amount £5925.73 LAS-HNL I have to break it to LAS-LAX-HNL, I am wondering if I can "re-route" it after April 2026, to a direct LAS-HNL. But the price is good, I am not complaining :)Previously when an airline left or joined oneworld you were locked into the rules(~airlines) in place at the time. That was good or bad, depending on point of view. So could not use "new" airlines. Always considered it strange OW considered HA as a "new" airline. For HA to me its not a "new" airline as such, but a step increase in AS routes. HA as an airline has ceased to exist. |
Originally Posted by meowycrystal
(Post 37507631)
Thank you so much for everyone's help! I got the ticket priced and purchased with TA.
Ticket Base Fare £3741.00 Ticket Tax Fare £2184.73 Total Amount £5925.73 LAS-HNL I have to break it to LAS-LAX-HNL, I am wondering if I can "re-route" it after April 2026, to a direct LAS-HNL. But the price is good, I am not complaining :)To demonstrate, AS875/24OCT/LASHNL, for example, can already be priced in xONEx. Code:
1 BA4603D 12JAN 1 HNDLHR SS1 0950 1515 /DCBA /E |
Originally Posted by meowycrystal
(Post 37507631)
Thank you so much for everyone's help! I got the ticket priced and purchased with TA.
Ticket Base Fare £3741.00 Ticket Tax Fare £2184.73 Total Amount £5925.73 LAS-HNL I have to break it to LAS-LAX-HNL, I am wondering if I can "re-route" it after April 2026, to a direct LAS-HNL. But the price is good, I am not complaining :) |
I used Amex travel ;)
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Originally Posted by meowycrystal
(Post 37525399)
I used Amex travel ;)
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Originally Posted by meowycrystal
(Post 37525399)
I used Amex travel ;)
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Hello everyone,
I'm researching a DONE4 RTW trip for my honeymoon. I tried to get in contact with Propeller Travel and paid the £50 fee for their RTW planning service, but it's been 10 days and I haven't had a response, so I thought I'd ask for some assistance from this board. Below is our current itinerary, which prices up as 57,959 NOK fare + 19,065 NOK in taxes = 77,024 NOK. I'm trying to figure out a few things: 1. Are there any red flags in terms of code choices that could reduce the taxes a little? Or do codeshares not affect the taxes, only the metal flown? We'd also be interested in taking the Qantas flight SYD-JFK (via AKL) instead of AA, but doing so seems to increase the fees substantially. 2. I'd be aiming to credit to BAEC - should I try to use an agent that will book the AA transpacific / transatlantic legs with a QR, or other, code? 3. Pending the above answers, is the AA RTW desk the best port of call to book this itinerary? I'm unable to book OSL-DOH as the first flight using the OneWorld tool as noted in the wiki etc. We are also going to likely push out the final legs (from ANU-JFK onwards) into 2027, and add another US round trip which I think would be permitted still as segments 15 and 16 (including DPS-SIN as a ground segment). Really appreciate any guidance anyone can provide - thanks. ---- 1 QR 176 10SEP OSL DOH 2 QR 962 11SEP DOH DPS 3 QF 54 18SEP SIN BNE 4 QF1592 22SEP BNE HTI 5 QF 579 27SEP HTI SYD 6 QF 728 30SEP SYD AYQ 7 QF 729 02OCT AYQ SYD 8 AA 72 05OCT SYD LAX 9 AA 307 05OCT LAX JFK 10 AA1749 08NOV JFK ANU 11 AA1359 12NOV ANU JFK 12 AA 100 19NOV JFK LHR 13 BA 774 21NOV LHR OSL |
What I figured out and as far as I know also Matt explained it in his video. As soon as you have any QF flights the prices take jump upwards. So I tried to avoid them as much as possible. Maybe you can move your SIN - BNE flight to something going towards SYD or MEL on another airline. As you want to credit to BAC then you might fly via BKK to MEL on AY?
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Originally Posted by cmurphy2005
(Post 37527685)
Hello everyone,
I'm researching a DONE4 RTW trip for my honeymoon. I tried to get in contact with Propeller Travel and paid the £50 fee for their RTW planning service, but it's been 10 days and I haven't had a response, so I thought I'd ask for some assistance from this board. Below is our current itinerary, which prices up as 57,959 NOK fare + 19,065 NOK in taxes = 77,024 NOK. I'm trying to figure out a few things: 1. Are there any red flags in terms of code choices that could reduce the taxes a little? Or do codeshares not affect the taxes, only the metal flown? We'd also be interested in taking the Qantas flight SYD-JFK (via AKL) instead of AA, but doing so seems to increase the fees substantially. 2. I'd be aiming to credit to BAEC - should I try to use an agent that will book the AA transpacific / transatlantic legs with a QR, or other, code? 3. Pending the above answers, is the AA RTW desk the best port of call to book this itinerary? I'm unable to book OSL-DOH as the first flight using the OneWorld tool as noted in the wiki etc. We are also going to likely push out the final legs (from ANU-JFK onwards) into 2027, and add another US round trip which I think would be permitted still as segments 15 and 16 (including DPS-SIN as a ground segment). Really appreciate any guidance anyone can provide - thanks. ---- 1 QR 176 10SEP OSL DOH 2 QR 962 11SEP DOH DPS 3 QF 54 18SEP SIN BNE 4 QF1592 22SEP BNE HTI 5 QF 579 27SEP HTI SYD 6 QF 728 30SEP SYD AYQ 7 QF 729 02OCT AYQ SYD 8 AA 72 05OCT SYD LAX 9 AA 307 05OCT LAX JFK 10 AA1749 08NOV JFK ANU 11 AA1359 12NOV ANU JFK 12 AA 100 19NOV JFK LHR 13 BA 774 21NOV LHR OSL |
Originally Posted by cmurphy2005
(Post 37527685)
I'm researching a DONE4 RTW trip for my honeymoon. I tried to get in contact with Propeller Travel and paid the £50 fee for their RTW planning service, but it's been 10 days and I haven't had a response, so I thought I'd ask for some assistance from this board. Below is our current itinerary, which prices up as 57,959 NOK fare + 19,065 NOK in taxes = 77,024 NOK. I'm trying to figure out a few things:
1. Are there any red flags in terms of code choices that could reduce the taxes a little? Or do codeshares not affect the taxes, only the metal flown? We'd also be interested in taking the Qantas flight SYD-JFK (via AKL) instead of AA, but doing so seems to increase the fees substantially. <snip>
Originally Posted by DY444
(Post 37527820)
QF are reputed to pile on the charges like they're going out of style so you might want to investigate alternatives for SIN-BNE for example. I don't know anything about other Australian domestic carriers but it might also be worthwhile looking into options with them outside the xONEx ticket for the internal Australia legs rather than using QF.
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Originally Posted by BMarkus
(Post 37527764)
What I figured out and as far as I know also Matt explained it in his video. As soon as you have any QF flights the prices take jump upwards. So I tried to avoid them as much as possible. Maybe you can move your SIN - BNE flight to something going towards SYD or MEL on another airline. As you want to credit to BAC then you might fly via BKK to MEL on AY?
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