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dvs7310 Jun 8, 2024 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36290623)
Do you mind to share your itinerary and which segment you manage to get QR codeshare?

I just got a reply from QF Twitter team, the response was same with call, they cant see it in reservation system, thus, cant book for me under QR code.

On my most recent one it was JL codes on AA flights to / from Brazil. On past itineraries I've done QF codes on AA flights TPAC and QR codes on domestic AA flights for the same reason. There are QR codes on lots of AA flights to / from North America and into the Caribbean, as well as a lot of domestic flights that connect to QR gateways.

It's hard to say why the agents can't see your flight as a QR code, but maybe it's only a valid routing when connecting to QR?


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 36291545)
Is the above code share strategy to enhance credit to an AA FFP? Credit would be by miles flown instead of proportional cost/total distance flown on RTW?
If not AA FFP, which FFP?
TIA.

Yes, exactly. AAdvantage is extremely punitive for AA codes on RTWs when they credit as 'revenue base' which most seem to do now.

slhu82 Jul 4, 2024 10:17 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36287214)
If you actually mean taxes (meaning government imposed charges) then no, they are the same for any carrier serving an airport. But if you actually mean YQ / YR then yes it varies significantly depending on ticketing carrier / marketing carrier / departure point, etc. Those are wildly variable. You may experiences increases or decreases in total price, especially ex- CAI and ex-OSL. ex-Japan is a lot more stable since there's no YQ. And yes you most likely have lower surcharges on a JL code than BA since BA is one of the worst offenders in the entirety of the oneworld alliance.





Absolutely not, it's either available or it's not. They can't just push availability in normal circumstances. But availability may be a bit different than you can see on your own.





Careful about that because they'll generally require at least one AA long haul segment on an AA code. Additionally they have been known to disallow using non-AA codes on AA metal in the past. Sure they'll allow you to use any codeshare you want aside from those flights, but that can be significant.


Example on my next RTW itinerary I have:

HND-JFK (JL)
JFK-GRU (AA metal JL Code)
GRU-DFW (AA metal JL Code)
DFW-STL (AA code)
STL-SEA-DOH (AS, QR codes)

That would never in a million years be allowed by AA RTW desk. And would be detrimental to an AAdvantage member if it wasn't JL, AS, and QR coded.

I had almost exact itinerary but booked from AA RTW desk. JL from JP to AA, AA round trip from US to South America, then QR from US to DOH.

dvs7310 Jul 5, 2024 9:48 am


Originally Posted by slhu82 (Post 36353568)
I had almost exact itinerary but booked from AA RTW desk. JL from JP to AA, AA round trip from US to South America, then QR from US to DOH.

Sure, but with the AA RTW desk you can't book it the way I did. That means little to people credtiing to programs other than AAdvantage, but means everything to AAdvantage members. We can't afford any long segments on AA codes if caring about LP earnings.

slhu82 Jul 5, 2024 10:20 am

Oh Ok, I get what you mean. I don't plan to credit to AAdvantage, I will provide AS or QR membership during check it, hopefully it will work out fine. But booking with AA and credited to AA hurts a lot.

Fossiebear Jul 7, 2024 4:51 pm

Changes to a BA Issued DONE4
 
I am looking to change the first leg of a DONE4 from CAI-CMN-JFK to CAI-LHR-JFK. Wondering if anyone can confirm:
1. Is there any problem transiting through Europe assuming the ticket ends in Europe?
2. Right now there is no D availability through BA on one way flights. However, if booked as outbound legs of a return on BA there is D availability. Additionally there is D class availability on the BA flights if booked as oneway on Iberia or American. Would BA be prepared to ticket this?
Thanks in advance

dvs7310 Jul 7, 2024 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by Fossiebear (Post 36359214)
I am looking to change the first leg of a DONE4 from CAI-CMN-JFK to CAI-LHR-JFK. Wondering if anyone can confirm:
1. Is there any problem transiting through Europe assuming the ticket ends in Europe?
2. Right now there is no D availability through BA on one way flights. However, if booked as outbound legs of a return on BA there is D availability. Additionally there is D class availability on the BA flights if booked as oneway on Iberia or American. Would BA be prepared to ticket this?
Thanks in advance

Since it's the first leg as you mention, I don't think it's an option anyway unless you pay up several thousands of dollars in fare difference. Unfortunately your ticket won't benefit from historical prices until you've flown the first segment. But for all intents and purposes, CAI and CMN are both Europe on these tickets as well.

chan1108 Jul 22, 2024 2:02 am

I am planing to change my ticket with a LAX-LHR segment. However I cannot find any D cabin in ITA MATRIX in any date. In oneworld RTW tool, there is only AA flight for LAX-LHR, while I want to post all the points to AAdvantage, which means I'd better not to choose AA/BA/IB. Is it possible for me to change to a AY codeshare flight for LAX-LHR?

kayzng Jul 22, 2024 2:14 am


Originally Posted by chan1108 (Post 36394812)
I am planing to change my ticket with a LAX-LHR segment. However I can find any D cabin in ITA MATRIX in any date. In oneworld RTW tool, there is only AA flight for LAX-LHR, while I want to post all the points to AAdvantage, which means I'd better not to choose AA/BA/IB. Is it possible for me to change to a AY codeshare flight for LAX-LHR?

if your ticket issued by QF, need to ask them to check whether the codeshare is available in their system or not

chan1108 Jul 22, 2024 2:20 am


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36394831)
if your ticket issued by QF, need to ask them to check whether the codeshare is available in their system or not

I contact QF via twitter hours ago, they still do not reply me yet.

kayzng Jul 22, 2024 2:26 am


Originally Posted by chan1108 (Post 36394841)
I contact QF via twitter hours ago, they still do not reply me yet.

the longest i ever wait for twitter was 5.5 days, by then, I was able to get through the right call rep, then I told them dont bother my twitter request.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4b1148048a.jpg

chan1108 Jul 22, 2024 2:34 pm

Did you change the city by QF? What's the charging rules for city change, I've heard QF call center will reprice the ticket.

Hennebou Jul 24, 2024 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36292588)

Yes, exactly. AAdvantage is extremely punitive for AA codes on RTWs when they credit as 'revenue base' which most seem to do now.

This is helpful, thanks. Do you happen to know if that’s also the case for AA-marketed flights credited to BAEC?

looking at the flight calculator, the same flight (I checked LHR-HND with a A fare) yields significantly more Avios on BA and AA than on QR/QF/JL/CX. But given it’s a RTW ticket, I don’t know if the « per segment » avios would apply or if it would be the new « money spent multiplied by multiplier » system.

thank you

Dr. HFH Jul 24, 2024 6:24 pm


Originally Posted by Hennebou (Post 36403102)
looking at the flight calculator, the same flight (I checked LHR-HND with a A fare) yields significantly more Avios on BA and AA than on QR/QF/JL/CX. But given it’s a RTW ticket, I don’t know if the « per segment » avios would apply or if it would be the new « money spent multiplied by multiplier » system.

I don't fully understand your comment, but for QRPC, the base or starting point of the calculation (i.e., without premium cabin or elite status multipliers) is BIS miles, not spend.

dvs7310 Jul 24, 2024 7:36 pm


Originally Posted by Hennebou (Post 36403102)
This is helpful, thanks. Do you happen to know if that’s also the case for AA-marketed flights credited to BAEC?

looking at the flight calculator, the same flight (I checked LHR-HND with a A fare) yields significantly more Avios on BA and AA than on QR/QF/JL/CX. But given it’s a RTW ticket, I don’t know if the « per segment » avios would apply or if it would be the new « money spent multiplied by multiplier » system.

thank you

For that I'd have to point you to the BAEC forum. I don't remember if AA codes got shifted to the revenue model or not, and if RTWs were affected, as there was some speculation that they might not be but don't recall seeing data points.

Dr. HFH Jul 25, 2024 4:34 am


Originally Posted by Hennebou (Post 36403102)
But given it’s a RTW ticket, I don’t know if the « per segment » avios would apply or if it would be the new « money spent multiplied by multiplier » system.


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36403487)
For that I'd have to point you to the BAEC forum. I don't remember if AA codes got shifted to the revenue model or not, and if RTWs were affected, as there was some speculation that they might not be but don't recall seeing data points.

How would Avios or AAdvantage distinguish between an xONEx fare and any other fare? IIRC L, D, and A fare buckets are also used in non-xONEx tickets sometimes.


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