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kayzng Jun 5, 2024 10:03 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 36286027)
From RWR2 RULE 3015

My view would be 1 x 125, as the change is one transaction. 1 PNR with 2 e-tckets

that would be my understanding based on the rules as well.
too bad now, in yesterday's attempt to book myself and wife under different codeshare, QF sent me updated booking, and created a new PNR for my wife. Now i have 2 different PNR.

Mwenenzi Jun 5, 2024 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36286064)
that would be my understanding based on the rules as well.
too bad now, in yesterday's attempt to book myself and wife under different codeshare, QF sent me updated booking, and created a new PNR for my wife. Now i have 2 different PNR.

So you have different flight numbers compared to your wife? That would be the reason 2 PNR's
Getting QF to make changes in high risk. QF agents are known for making errors. Many posts on AFF on poor QF agents.

pandaperth Jun 5, 2024 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by SP0 (Post 36286021)
I have been charged 125 per person even on one PNR.

Me too. One PNR, two people = 2 x USD125 = USD250

Changes made with the AA ATW desk.

kayzng Jun 5, 2024 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 36286076)
So you have different flight numbers compared to your wife? That would be the reason 2 PNR's

that was the intent, so I fly on MH code while my wife fly on QR code.
As they said they cant do it, so I am now with 2 PNR with same flight code.

dvs7310 Jun 6, 2024 9:59 am


Originally Posted by sony2012 (Post 36285028)
it is weird to see stand alone flights are codeshared. I saw mad-Cai on Iberia one segment only but can book it with aa code....

When you book it with partner code, is there any difference in taxes? For example I see ba flights have higher taxes than jl on hnd-lhr route but if I book jl flight with ba code, do I pay jl taxes or ba taxes? I assumed it is ba tax because the flight is booked as a ba flight instead of jl...the reason I am asking this is because ba flights earn substantially more Alaska miles than jl

If you actually mean taxes (meaning government imposed charges) then no, they are the same for any carrier serving an airport. But if you actually mean YQ / YR then yes it varies significantly depending on ticketing carrier / marketing carrier / departure point, etc. Those are wildly variable. You may experiences increases or decreases in total price, especially ex- CAI and ex-OSL. ex-Japan is a lot more stable since there's no YQ. And yes you most likely have lower surcharges on a JL code than BA since BA is one of the worst offenders in the entirety of the oneworld alliance.


Originally Posted by Perisai (Post 36285164)
Trying to change the date of my QF27 (SYD->SCL), which I booked as part of my DONEx, but facing a very sad picture in terms of availability.
According to expertflyer, the entire month of March 2025 is zeroed out on the flight for any business booking class but J and C. I know that the PoS might change things, but not optimistic that EG might have better availability than US.

Not unusual for that route unfortunately, I've followed it before as I have interest as well, but QF is very stingy on D availability. They must be organically selling it quite well at J or C levels.

Does anyone have experience with this route and the sales / booking class strategy from QF?
Is it likely that this will remain all zeroed out or is there hope for QF to release seats in the D booking class?


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36285778)
are you getting the AA CS to allocate codeshare for you when you book the tickets?
i will certainly attempt again by emailing their twitter team.

Absolutely not, it's either available or it's not. They can't just push availability in normal circumstances. But availability may be a bit different than you can see on your own.


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36285815)
IME the AA RTW desk will put any available codeshare on any flight, provided that there's availability in the proper fare bucket (L/D/A) on the codeshare. Note that it's not AA customer service, it's the RTW desk. I would guess that this does not apply to non-RTW tickets, which would be subject to the regular codesharing rules.


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36285903)
Yet another reason to use the AA RTW desk. IME if a codeshare shows in EF, the AA RTW desk will have it. However, that doesn't mean that you'll be able to get it, even when the flight is visible under the codeshare number to AA. You need visibility plus inventory, and inventory showing in EF isn't always available to AA or other partners.

Careful about that because they'll generally require at least one AA long haul segment on an AA code. Additionally they have been known to disallow using non-AA codes on AA metal in the past. Sure they'll allow you to use any codeshare you want aside from those flights, but that can be significant.


Example on my next RTW itinerary I have:

HND-JFK (JL)
JFK-GRU (AA metal JL Code)
GRU-DFW (AA metal JL Code)
DFW-STL (AA code)
STL-SEA-DOH (AS, QR codes)

That would never in a million years be allowed by AA RTW desk. And would be detrimental to an AAdvantage member if it wasn't JL, AS, and QR coded.

kayzng Jun 7, 2024 4:47 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36287214)
Example on my next RTW itinerary I have:

HND-JFK (JL)
JFK-GRU (AA metal JL Code)
GRU-DFW (AA metal JL Code)
DFW-STL (AA code)
STL-SEA-DOH (AS, QR codes)

That would never in a million years be allowed by AA RTW desk. And would be detrimental to an AAdvantage member if it wasn't JL, AS, and QR coded.

Is your trip ticketed by QF through the RTW tool?

dvs7310 Jun 7, 2024 7:37 am


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36288847)
Is your trip ticketed by QF through the RTW tool?

Yes, but I booked with placeholders that I knew would require changing. I paid the $125 the day after it was ticketed to fix it the way I actually wanted it since the tool can't do codeshares and can't do QR on the first segment. It's well worth the additional fee for how I structured it.

kayzng Jun 7, 2024 8:55 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36289147)
Yes, but I booked with placeholders that I knew would require changing. I paid the $125 the day after it was ticketed to fix it the way I actually wanted it since the tool can't do codeshares and can't do QR on the first segment. It's well worth the additional fee for how I structured it.

Do you mind to share your itinerary and which segment you manage to get QR codeshare?

I just got a reply from QF Twitter team, the response was same with call, they cant see it in reservation system, thus, cant book for me under QR code.

SwedishGirl Jun 8, 2024 1:44 am

I’ve been following this latest discussion and do not understand the importance of having certain flight codes on the flights. For example JL when flying on AA. Why does this matter?


kayzng Jun 8, 2024 2:47 am


Originally Posted by SwedishGirl (Post 36290904)
I’ve been following this latest discussion and do not understand the importance of having certain flight codes on the flights. For example JL when flying on AA. Why does this matter?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...860da01eff.jpg
I am using the calculator from QR.
for the same flight KUL-NRT, if under MH will get (Qpoints / Avios) 30/4173, under QR will be 81/15418

add: having said this, i have yet to validate this, just trying it ouy

ironmanjt Jun 8, 2024 8:48 am


Originally Posted by SwedishGirl (Post 36290904)
I’ve been following this latest discussion and do not understand the importance of having certain flight codes on the flights. For example JL when flying on AA. Why does this matter?

Some members use these tickets to maximize their points and/or status earnings, which can vary widely depending on the code on the flight.

allset2travel Jun 8, 2024 9:36 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36287214)

Careful about that because they'll generally require at least one AA long haul segment on an AA code. Additionally they have been known to disallow using non-AA codes on AA metal in the past. Sure they'll allow you to use any codeshare you want aside from those flights, but that can be significant.

Example on my next RTW itinerary I have:

HND-JFK (JL)
JFK-GRU (AA metal JL Code)
GRU-DFW (AA metal JL Code)
DFW-STL (AA code)
STL-SEA-DOH (AS, QR codes)

That would never in a million years be allowed by AA RTW desk. And would be detrimental to an AAdvantage member if it wasn't JL, AS, and QR coded.

Is the above code share strategy to enhance credit to an AA FFP? Credit would be by miles flown instead of proportional cost/total distance flown on RTW?
If not AA FFP, which FFP?
TIA.

SwedishGirl Jun 8, 2024 11:05 am


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36291452)
Some members use these tickets to maximize their points and/or status earnings, which can vary widely depending on the code on the flight.

Ah okay. Thanks for the explanation. I am a BA executive club member and thought that I would earn the same number of Avios/tier points on any One World flight regardless of the flight number. Is this not the case? 🫣

Mwenenzi Jun 8, 2024 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by SwedishGirl (Post 36291707)
Ah okay. Thanks for the explanation. I am a BA executive club member and thought that I would earn the same number of Avios/tier points on any One World flight regardless of the flight number. Is this not the case? 🫣

No. And the bonus due to status can change.
Also distance based vs spend base is another variation.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...-avios/flights
Look as AA vs AS

*ONE* are A D or L fare class.
https://www.wheretocredit.com/qatar-airways/d
RDM
AS 225%
AA 250%
BA 125%
AY 125%
QR 175%


But for example with QF E fare basis (a very low cost fare bucket) only credits to QF. Does catch some BAEC flyers in Australia
https://www.wheretocredit.com/qantas...oogle_vignette

With OW earnings are based on marketing carrier (flight number) with an eligible operating carrier.

SwedishGirl Jun 8, 2024 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 36291991)
No. And the bonus due to status can change.
Also distance based vs spend base is another variation.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...-avios/flights
Look as AA vs AS

*ONE* are A D or L fare class.
https://www.wheretocredit.com/qatar-airways/d

But for example with QF E fare basis (a very low cost fare bucket) only credits to QF. Does catch some BAEC flyers in Australia
https://www.wheretocredit.com/qantas...oogle_vignette

With OW earnings are based on marketing carrier (flight number) with an eligible operating carrier.

That was helpful thanks! It appears that Tier points are not affected.


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