Does anyone have experience attempting to book a lap infant on a RTW fare?

AA has (or had) special fares that would credit on distance vs. revenue. The most common ones were bought through AA Vacations, but not exclusive to that. So there was a separate earning chart for those. I think they've mostly disappeared, but still today opaque fares, like consolidator fares will credit as special fares on the appropriate fare code. D fares in that are 75% cabin bonus, 100% distance, and whatever AAdvantage status bonus you get (mine is 120%). Most RTW fares used to fall into that with AA but seems less and less likely anymore.

BA had initially said they'd treat RTW fares the same way. And there is definitely an easy way for them to know if it's a 'native' D fare vs. a RTW D fare, as your fare basis would be DONEx vs. whatever native D fare they had offered.

I have my first recently QF issued RTW segment on an AA code next month, so will see how it credits. Last time on a QF ticket they credited as distance, but my CX ticket had them credit as revenue, which was pretty awful.

Ah, good point.

I got tired of worrying about distance versus spend, so I credit everything to QRPC now, as virtually all of my flying is on DONE3 tickets.

Thanks for this post as I'm considering going with QRPC after BA's changes. I went to BA after AA changed to $.

So, I went out to Qatar's web site, and also searched a few threads in the FT Qatar forum, looking for flight requirements for qualification but found no references. So my question, which hopefully you may know the answer, is "Does QRPC require QR flights for annual qualification, and if so how many?".

Thanks - Bob

Yeah it's 4 flights OR 20% of your QPoints have to be earned on QR flights. I think most people would get 4 flights first, but in theory you could do something like LAX-DOH-AKL or SYD and that would easily exceed the 20% threshold since that's 186 / 176 QPoints (Assuming D Class) and the 20% threshold for Platinum would be 120. If you're doing the 4 segments, they can also be marketed flights, doesn't have to be QR metal.

Here's the relevant page you need

Thanks, and thanks for the link. I went to that Qatar web page earlier but in my haste I missed the 4 sectors mention as I searched the page for the word flights.

My experience is that the segments credit based on distance/cabin/status. I bought my ticket before Oct 2023, made routing changes after I flew the 1st segment in Feb 2024. For a 1st class flight with BA silver status I was earning between 2.5 and 3 times the distance on the JV partners BA/AA/JL. My flight LAX-ORD earned 5236 avios on AA, while my AS flight ORD-ANC earned 3558 avios. Flying the AA codeshare on BA metal from DFW-LHR earned 14,254 avios.

Appreciate the link.
I have a simple but important question:
When does the QRPC qualifying year begin and end? I read 12-month period (???)
TIA

Really for the QR forum if you want to verify. Might be in the ask anything thread. But from my understanding it's 12 months from your first Q Point credit, I don't believe it's a set xx month to xx month year like most programs.

Thank you.
Will try that!

xONEx 'Point of origin'
 

Used to be, on an xONEx, two airports in the same city were deemed co-located and a transfer between them did not count; e.g., xxx-LGA//JFK-yyy counted as two segments. Not any more: nowadays it counts as three.

But how does co-location apply in regard to the Oneworld Explorer Rule 4(d), 'Travel may not be via the point of origin'? Would, for example, LGA-aaa-JFK-bbb ... be allowed, or would they say LGA and JFK are both NYC, so same 'point of origin'?

IIRC This died around the time of the advent of universal e-ticketing.

In the '00 I remember being ticketed ORD-LON-DBV with the ORD flight into LHR and the DBV flight departing LGW.
Likely the former, as the latter would mean conflicting interpretations of the same consideration; although I have never tried it.

You would need to be careful so as not to be caught by the stopover in country of origin limit.

Hey!
I know there is HUCA and all...

Before I call back I'd like some of your insight.

I booked a DONE3 back in February ex-Cairo. Start is not until January 2025.

Yesterday, I received schedule change for the START DATE of the ticket that is for the same carrier but on the previous day. Not quite 24 hours earlier than originally booked.
Original RJ CAI-BKK via AMM.

I called AA RTW desk yesterday and rebooked QR CAI-BKK via DOH arriving BKK on the same day.

At the same time, because the agent said I could without charges, I moved the dummy dates for the remaining 14 segment to something more likely throughout next spring.

Overnight I got an email saying they could not proceed with the requested changes until they spoke with me.

I just got off the phone and after a bit told the nice lady on the phone that I'd have to HUCA.

She said that the new ticket incurs a $6k+ change in fees (not sure if it is per person). She suggested that I cancel the ticket and start over because regardless if I make the date changes now or after departure it will incur the same $6k changes in fees because they have increased since I booked.

I asked that the ticket be returned to original booking and she says it won't matter, price wise.

Advice?

Extremely hard to say, since the big question is how your record has been documented. That's likely to have a strong influence on whoever you speak to next. However:

1) The change of the first 2 segments to a reasonable CAI-XXX-BKK is totally permitted free of charge. They're wrong there. Now, how much change is reasonable is at the mercy of the agent, but you are being totally reasonable to ask for anything "closer" to your original date than the 24 hr change they've offered you. Changing it by weeks? That might not fly without a refare, since they'll potentially argue you're changing more than the "forced" change.

2) Now that you've changed the other segments, you're in a bit of a pickle.. Asking them to put everything back as it was is a major ask, and unlikely to happen. Your best arguement is "your agent told me I could" but I've rarely seen that strategy work - unless you find the right sympathetic elite agent.\

All that said, now that the "mess" is made, a good agent will work with you to clean it up. Recognizing these fares WERE a steal, you're likely going to have to settle on "good enough" as opposed to perfect at this stage. Even changes to future segments can get messy with low-quality agents, so it's truly a case of having to put in some effort to get the deal to work. For now, if I were in your place, I would focus on getting something reissued that's at least acceptable to you with no upcharge. The more you fight for perfect, the less you are to get it in my opinion.

Thanks for your reply ironmanjt
Much appreciated.

I called back and got the exact same agent. LOL

It's all worked out in the end.
I actually got a refund! (I don't know what kind of emoji to put here)

She tried to be helpful but was kind of talking nonsense (IMO) as she said she really did not know what was going on and was just reiterating notes from the fare department without context. She thought supervisor could explain better. Supervisor concluded it was an 'error fare'. "These tickets are pricing for way more than what you paid." Supervisor called fare department and said she was so happy she did because it has all worked for me and that I even get a refund. Earlier she said the RTW fares were kind of 'above her head'.

Based on what the original agent was quoting, I think maybe it was recorded overall as a 'voluntary change' (because of the date changes for subsequent flights) which resulted in reticketing and repricing. Hence the email. But then ticketing saw the RJ changes and went through and issued the ticket before I woke up. I dunno. I could see everything in order prior to phoning. Maybe I should not have.

In her closing, the supervisor said in her opinion this ticket should never have been issued because both over the water segments were not AA. (I've read this before).

Added later:
I imagine this is how people feel dealing with the QF agents after booking on the Oneworld site.
(I know I may have messed things up myself)