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About to book OW RTE 4 continent- please lmk major issues/oops/know-before-you-go/etc
Hi - am about to book the following RTW itinerary in business class via AA RTW desk going westward from BOS->BOS - this was a very challenging routing to validate - most likely because of relatively short fuse on departure.....took nearly 1.5hrs on phone with them to find this routing that worked with the dates you see below. Most important dates are to arrive in PER the same day (or one day earlier) and to be in HAM same day (or one day earlier). Lots of segment choices out of PER were sold out or not avail in business. While I know I can make changes w/out penalty for most of this, the cities can't change once ticketed w/ out incurring a change penalty and not expecting other cities to offer better options. Turns out a 3 continent routing wasn't generating a valid route but switching to 4 continent did, and @ same fare. One major question is whether I will receive full AA Loyalty credit(s) when flying non AA airlines and any issues w/ airports and or lounge access in those locations. Only airport I haven't been thru before is AUK for this trip.
Thanks in advance for any help! ================================================== ================================================== ======================== Thank you for choosing American Airlines. Here is the itinerary you requested. Flight 1: Republic Airways as American Eagle 4289 Departure Date: May 3, 2024 Departure Airport: BOS Scheduled Departure Time: 11:47AM Departure Terminal: -- Departure Gate: -- Arrival Airport: JFK Scheduled Arrival Time: 1:14PM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- Flight 2: Qantas 7264 Departure Date: May 3, 2024 Departure Airport: JFK Scheduled Departure Time: 7:20PM Departure Terminal: 8 Departure Gate: 5 Arrival Airport: AKL Scheduled Arrival Time: 5:00AM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- Flight 3: Qantas 7264 Departure Date: May 5, 2024 Departure Airport: AKL Scheduled Departure Time: 7:00AM Departure Terminal: -- Departure Gate: -- Arrival Airport: SYD Scheduled Arrival Time: 8:35AM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- Flight 4: Qantas 653 Departure Date: May 5, 2024 Departure Airport: SYD Scheduled Departure Time: 6:30PM Departure Terminal: -- Departure Gate: -- Arrival Airport: PER Scheduled Arrival Time: 9:35PM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- Flight 5: Cathay Pacific 170 Departure Date: May 11, 2024 Departure Airport: PER Scheduled Departure Time: 11:55PM Departure Terminal: -- Departure Gate: -- Arrival Airport: HKG Scheduled Arrival Time: 7:40AM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- Flight 6: Cathay Pacific 251 Departure Date: May 12, 2024 Departure Airport: HKG Scheduled Departure Time: 10:40PM Departure Terminal: -- Departure Gate: -- Arrival Airport: LHR Scheduled Arrival Time: 5:40AM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- Flight 7: British Airways 964 Departure Date: May 13, 2024 Departure Airport: LHR Scheduled Departure Time: 7:15AM Departure Terminal: -- Departure Gate: -- Arrival Airport: HAM Scheduled Arrival Time: 9:50AM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- Flight 8: British Airways 975 Departure Date: May 16, 2024 Departure Airport: HAM Scheduled Departure Time: 4:40PM Departure Terminal: -- Departure Gate: -- Arrival Airport: LHR Scheduled Arrival Time: 5:20PM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- Flight 9: American Airlines 141 Departure Date: May 16, 2024 Departure Airport: LHR Scheduled Departure Time: 7:55PM Departure Terminal: 3 Departure Gate: -- Arrival Airport: JFK Scheduled Arrival Time: 10:35PM Arrival Terminal: 8 Arrival Gate: -- Flight 10: Republic Airways as American Eagle 4315 Departure Date: May 17, 2024 Departure Airport: JFK Scheduled Departure Time: 9:59AM Departure Terminal: -- Departure Gate: -- Arrival Airport: CMH Scheduled Arrival Time: 11:53AM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- Flight 11: Envoy Air as American Eagle 3727 Departure Date: May 20, 2024 Departure Airport: CMH Scheduled Departure Time: 8:00PM Departure Terminal: -- Departure Gate: B19 Arrival Airport: BOS Scheduled Arrival Time: 9:59PM Arrival Terminal: -- Arrival Gate: -- |
Little strange AA ticketed
Flight 2: Qantas 7264 JFK-AKL (AA 7264 on QF3) Flight 3: Qantas 7264 AKL-SYD (AA 7264 on QF3) Could have been ticket as JFK-SYD. The date line may have confused the agent. Or QF not offering D JFK-SYD, and only JFK-AKL and AKL-SYD as D class. But may get more AA miles. Will need a NZeTA, even though doing an airside transit-->https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ocea...w-zealand.html Will have lounge access everywhere based on class of service (business) AA thread for RTW earnings-->https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...age-miles.html A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper With a little planning you could have had a (free) trip to Alaska or where ever 3-6-9-11 months after your return to USA. Allowed 6 USA flights Only airport I haven't been thru before is AUK for this trip. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alakanuk_Airport |
I don't understand this:
Originally Posted by Bartonio
(Post 36188540)
Turns out a 3 continent routing wasn't generating a valid route but switching to 4 continent did, and @ same fare.
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 36189481)
I don't understand this:DONE3 and DONE4 at the same fare from the same departure point?
But it wasn't really clear what the OP did to trigger the pricing. Maybe it was actually a DONE4 all along? (Europe to Australia without a transit / stopover in Asia?) The OW tool does weird stuff. |
Originally Posted by dvs7310
(Post 36191095)
I don't think it's normal, but remember the old ex-CAI fares, the difference between DONE3, DONE4, and DONE5 was absolutely negligible. We've also had one poster recently who wanted ex-BRU, in their case the DONE4 and DGLOB4 were identical priced. I know ex-USA fares aren't like that but there's always a chance.
But it wasn't really clear what the OP did to trigger the pricing. Maybe it was actually a DONE4 all along? (Europe to Australia without a transit / stopover in Asia?) The OW tool does weird stuff. I agree that the OP probably had a DONE4 to start. |
Thank you for the thoughtful reply, yep I goofed the code for Auckland, especially appreciate the tip that I will need a transit NZeTA...will take care of that this week.
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Originally Posted by Bartonio
(Post 36191534)
Thank you for the thoughtful reply, yep I goofed the code for Auckland, especially appreciate the tip that I will need a transit NZeTA...will take care of that this week.
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Originally Posted by Bartonio
(Post 36191534)
Thank you for the thoughtful reply, yep I goofed the code for Auckland, especially appreciate the tip that I will need a transit NZeTA...will take care of that this week.
Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36191571)
Definitely don’t risk it but I forgot to get one in February…and I was never asked. Surprised it wasn’t as automated as in Australia where airline systems are linked to th database.
She finally got the email that it was approved after being in the country for 4 days already.:D |
Originally Posted by dvs7310
(Post 36191684)
I've actually yet to figure out the point of it other than a money grab. It doesn't seem to be checked by anyone. I had mine when I went in December, but my friend very spontaneously joined me on the trip, we got her ticket 36 hours before departure. Needless to say her NZeTA didn't process in time (which was odd, mine was issued within minutes), so I did some searching online and apparently it doesn't matter, you can still enter the country without anyone asking anything about it. Seems fairly common from what I found. (People did say you have to have a pending application, I don't know what would happen if you didn't apply at all)
She finally got the email that it was approved after being in the country for 4 days already.:D |
Question on changing a Global Explorer 34,000 ticket (ex-CAI) with 2 segments already flown (CAI-LHR and LHR-BER) and 3 to be flown shortly (BER-HEL, HEL-SEA-DCA) leaving me 11 segments left:
1. FJ flight 821 from HNL-NAN - flight is a one-stop flight (direct) with a stop in CXI - this counts as one segment, correct? So would this be a valid routing: DCA-SFO-ANC ANC-HNL HNL-(CXI)-NAN NAN-CXI CXI-NAN NAN-MEL MEL-KUL-BLK BKK-DOH-CAI Basically, the HNL-CXI-NAN flights only go once a week so my choice is to go HNL-CXI then CXI-NAN 7.5 days apart (I think 7.5 days there will drive me crazy) or just stop in CXI on the way to NAN, and then do a CXI-NAN-CXI with 10 hours there...I can't see why this isn't allowed but the 1 stop flight has me thinking... |
Looks good (and novel!) to me :tu:
CXI is on my bucket list, and I too was thinking of the necessary one-week stopover, caused by the flight only being weekly. But conversely 10hrs might be too short for me. Two points:
You made an error in your last paragraph, right? It should be NAN-CXI-NAN, with 10hrs in CXI?
Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36197047)
Question on changing a Global Explorer 34,000 ticket (ex-CAI) with 2 segments already flown (CAI-LHR and LHR-BER) and 3 to be flown shortly (BER-HEL, HEL-SEA-DCA) leaving me 11 segments left:
1. FJ flight 821 from HNL-NAN - flight is a one-stop flight (direct) with a stop in CXI - this counts as one segment, correct? So would this be a valid routing: DCA-SFO-ANC ANC-HNL HNL-(CXI)-NAN NAN-CXI CXI-NAN NAN-MEL MEL-KUL-BLK BKK-DOH-CAI Basically, the HNL-CXI-NAN flights only go once a week so my choice is to go HNL-CXI then CXI-NAN 7.5 days apart (I think 7.5 days there will drive me crazy) or just stop in CXI on the way to NAN, and then do a CXI-NAN-CXI with 10 hours there...I can't see why this isn't allowed but the 1 stop flight has me thinking... |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 36197154)
Looks good (and novel!) to me :tu:
CXI is on my bucket list, and I too was thinking of the necessary one-week stopover, caused by the flight only being weekly. But conversely 10hrs might be too short for me. Two points:
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Hello! First post here but I've been reading lots of helpful tips about booking a RTW ticket.
I've been testing lots of routes for at trip at Christmas starting in Sweden or Norway using the Oneworld planning tool. But I have read here that Expertflyer gives more accurate information. Soooo I have just started a weeks trial of Expertflyer and am struggling to see how to plan a RTW itinerary there. Please could someone point me in the right direction so that I can get started. Big thank you in advance! |
Whilst waiting for my first post to be approved by a moderator I'll ask a more specific question about my planned itineraries so far if i may. Edited to say that this post has appeared before my first one so hello! :)
The Oneworld tool will not allow either of these trips because of the rule that only 2 stopovers are allowed in "home" continent? I don't think my trips break this rule. Am I missing something obvious? Trip 1 OSL-DOH DOH-AKL CHR-NAN NAN-LAX LAX-GOT HEL-DOH DOH-OSL Trip 2 ARN-DOH DOH-AKL CHC-NAN NAN-LAX LAX-HEL HEL-DOH DOH-ARN |
SwedishGirl Welcome to FT
Originally Posted by SwedishGirl
(Post 36198801)
Whilst waiting for my first post to be approved by a moderator I'll ask a more specific question about my planned itineraries so far if i may. Edited to say that this post has appeared before my first one so hello! :)
The Oneworld tool will not allow either of these trips because of the rule that only 2 stopovers are allowed in "home" continent? I don't think my trips break this rule. Am I missing something obvious? Trip 1 OSL-DOH DOH-AUC CHR-NAD NAD-LAX LAX-GOT HEL-DOH DOH-OSL Trip 2 STO-DOH DOH-AUC CHR-NAD NAD-LAX LAX-HEL HEL-DOH DOH-STO AUC = AKL Auckland CHR = CHC Christchurch NAD = NAN Nadi STO= ARN Stockholm CHC-NAN is on FJ Fiji Airways, so your trip cannot be a *ONE*, but could be a *GLOB*. So a different set of rules. No flight LAX-GOT. Will need to be LAX-LHR-GOT or equal. Need to list all flights and not just where you want to depart/arrive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B...vetter_Airport http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ablu...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi |
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