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Mwenenzi Apr 19, 2024 2:18 pm

AA are starting a DFW-BNE service 27 Oct 2024 to Mar 2025. May have better D availability. Many people seem to think Australia=Sydney.

mjack99 route (but without necessary transit airports)--> http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ablu...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi

A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper
Have not used al 16 segments. KUL-SIN at 184 miles is a waste of a segment for many. Are other transport options or buy a (cheap) separate flight.

QF codeshare on JQ (DRW-DPS) OK, if you can get it ticketed. Or buy a cash ticket. Flights in Asia on popular routes can be well priced.

(i) The same city pairs/sectors cannot be flown more than once in the same direction.
(j) Travel on any AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL codeshare service operated by
AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL is permitted.
Other codeshare services not permitted with the exception of QF Codeshare services operated by
Jetstar (JQ).

chan1108 Apr 21, 2024 3:38 am

There is a tip read that "For journeys above 26,000 miles, a maximum up to four stopovers are permitted in Asia." when I tried to add more cities in Asia. So I am wondering whether DON3 ticket above 26000 miles and below 26000 miles are under the same fare. Can I change my less 26000 miles DONE3 ticket to more than 26000 miles?

mjack99 Apr 21, 2024 9:29 am

Thanks for the detailed reply dvs7310


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36172367)
It's impossible to tell from that screen shot, we'd need the actual flights you've selected when it won't move forward at the end, city pair and airline are fine, don't need flight numbers.

It was easier to do the screenshots of each segment and make a jpeg out of it. Please see below.


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36172367)
BTW, are you aware you're paying over €2,000 more originating from BRU instead of OSL? Since you're not using any Europe segments, you can go OSL-DOH-ORD for your first leg for a lot more miles, but you can't ticket that on the tool, have to call AA or BA. To get AA to ticket you'd need your DFW-SYD AA coded which generally isn't difficult unless near a holiday. Then QF gets real stingy with D space.

I was just about to reply to your €2K savings message when I saw your last edit. And indeed, I was interested in the savings until I realised it was OSL>DOH>ORD. You are right, I don't need to maximise tier points and the extra money isn't a big issue either given the extra time I would need (and it is small compared to the amount I spend with BA every year). I am just trying to get the trip done in the most efficient manner. Cost is secondary.

Looking forward to your comments on the itinerary.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4fa7122bbc.jpg

jerry a. laska Apr 21, 2024 9:40 am


Originally Posted by mjack99 (Post 36177062)
Thanks for the detailed reply dvs7310



It was easier to do the screenshots of each segment and make a jpeg out of it. Please see below.



I was just about to reply to your €2K savings message when I saw your last edit. And indeed, I was interested in the savings until I realised it was OSL>DOH>ORD. You are right, I don't need to maximise tier points and the extra money isn't a big issue either given the extra time I would need (and it is small compared to the amount I spend with BA every year). I am just trying to get the trip done in the most efficient manner. Cost is secondary.

Looking forward to your comments on the itinerary.

Then just go OSL-LHR-ORD for the $2k in savings. You don’t need to route through DOH.

It already appears that you are routing BRU-LHR-ORD already.

mjack99 Apr 21, 2024 9:57 am


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 36177082)
Then just go OSL-LHR-ORD for the $2k in savings. You don’t need to route through DOH.

It already appears that you are routing BRU-LHR-ORD already.

Ah I didn't realise that was possible. Btw, how do you know this? Is it explained in the wiki? I would like to know if, for example, CPH-LHR-ORD is also cheaper?

mjack99 Apr 21, 2024 10:02 am

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Sorry, the Jpeg quality sucked so uploading a PDF.

jerry a. laska Apr 21, 2024 10:23 am


Originally Posted by mjack99 (Post 36177117)
Ah I didn't realise that was possible. Btw, how do you know this? Is it explained in the wiki? I would like to know if, for example, CPH-LHR-ORD is also cheaper?

Expertflyer.com can show your rtw fares for any starting point you might be interested. OSL has been an economical starting point for some time. Japan has also been a good starting point for a couple of years.

You may want to read back a few months in the booking and pricing thread.

mjack99 Apr 21, 2024 10:37 am


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 36177160)
Expertflyer.com can show your rtw fares for any starting point you might be interested. OSL has been an economical starting point for some time. Japan has also been a good starting point for a couple of years.

You may want to read back a few months in the booking and pricing thread.

Doh! should have thought of Expertflyer. Thanks. I am still wondering though why my booking on oneworld.com isn't working.

Dr. HFH Apr 21, 2024 11:25 am


Originally Posted by mjack99 (Post 36177191)
I am still wondering though why my booking on oneworld.com isn't working.

No need to wonder, it's a terrible piece of software with all sorts of known bugs. Granted these tickets and the associated rules are complicated, but even so . . . .

Mwenenzi Apr 21, 2024 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by chan1108 (Post 36176499)
There is a tip read that "For journeys above 26,000 miles, a maximum up to four stopovers are permitted in Asia." when I tried to add more cities in Asia. So I am wondering whether DON3 ticket above 26000 miles and below 26000 miles are under the same fare. Can I change my less 26000 miles DONE3 ticket to more than 26000 miles?

*ONE* do not have a mileage limit
*GLOB* does have a mileage limit
https://www.oneworld.com/world-travel
Global Explorer RWR2 RULE 9701

4. FLIGHT APPLICATION / ROUTINGS
Fares only apply on AA/AT/AY/AS/BA/ CX/EI/FJ/GK/IB/JL/JQ/MH/NU/PG/QF/QR/RJ/UL/WS/3K.
The total journey must not exceed a maximum mileage of:
Fare basis
LGLOB26*/IGLOB26 26000 (ECONOMY AND BUSINESS ONLY)
LGLOB29 29000 (ECONOMY ONLY)
LGLOB34/DGLOB34/AGLOB34 34000 (ALL CLASSES)
LGLOB39 39000 (ECONOMY ONLY)
* GLOB26 offered from select markets only

If using the online tool it may be thinking you want a *GLOB* distance based RTW if you are getting a mileage error
Or some random error.

Have you downloaded the rules? https://www.oneworld.com/world-travel
Oneworld RTW
FAQ
What are the RTW rules
Download the pdf's

steveholt Apr 21, 2024 6:12 pm


Originally Posted by mjack99 (Post 36177117)
Ah I didn't realise that was possible. Btw, how do you know this? Is it explained in the wiki? I would like to know if, for example, CPH-LHR-ORD is also cheaper?

Not explained in the wiki (since the best starting points change as fares are adjusted), but if you spend enough time around here, you'll see various starting points mentioned disproportionately. In the EU, your best options are likely departing from OSL and BUD.

dvs7310 Apr 21, 2024 10:40 pm


Originally Posted by mjack99 (Post 36177191)
Doh! should have thought of Expertflyer. Thanks. I am still wondering though why my booking on oneworld.com isn't working.

I think it's your Jetstar segment for DPS-SIN, while it should be allowed on a DGLOB34, it may be the hiccup. The tool doesn't like economy segments sometimes.

Try changing that to DPS-HKG-SIN or DPS-KUL-SIN and see if it prices. If that still fails it might be the DRW-DPS as well but there aren't great alternatives for that since you'll already have used your allotted Australia transcon on SYD or BNE-DRW.

If you call AA's RTW desk they should be able to ticket it as a DGLOB34 as you have it (or from OSL-LHR-ORD with the 2000 euro savings), they'll want their code on the LHR-ORD and / or DFW-SYD to ticket it, but that should be a much lower YQ than prime BA or QF codes on those two anyway.

mjack99 Apr 22, 2024 1:54 am

Thanks everyone for your help. I will take your advice dvs7310 and call AA. OSL is an interesting option but not sure I can be bothered to get there from here.

dvs7310 Apr 22, 2024 2:50 am


Originally Posted by mjack99 (Post 36178646)
Thanks everyone for your help. I will take your advice dvs7310 and call AA. OSL is an interesting option but not sure I can be bothered to get there from here.

If you haven't already found it from the other thread the number for AA RTW is 800-247-3247. You'll want to use that rather than their general reservations number. The RTW desk are senior agents who know the rules of these tickets quite well.

chan1108 Apr 22, 2024 2:56 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 36177707)
*ONE* do not have a mileage limit
*GLOB* does have a mileage limit
https://www.oneworld.com/world-travel
Global Explorer RWR2 RULE 9701

If using the online tool it may be thinking you want a *GLOB* distance based RTW if you are getting a mileage error
Or some random error.

Have you downloaded the rules? https://www.oneworld.com/world-travel
Oneworld RTW
FAQ
What are the RTW rules
Download the pdf's

Thanks!


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