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ironmanjt Mar 18, 2024 10:14 am


Originally Posted by sony2012 (Post 36089534)
called Qantas and they said the ticket was already issued but it seems like email was never sent, though they do claim that I should have received it. Anyway, they sent an email with e-ticket number promptly as if I never received the email. Now I have the e-ticket number. Hope i am all set.

Qantas has never e-mailed me a ticket...but can check the Finnair site and they'll list the ticket number if it's issued.

pandaperth Mar 18, 2024 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by iwillflytheworld (Post 36089519)
I don't think this is true. A change of date to any segment other than the first one should not trigger a reprice, even before departure.
Correct.

I also think that changes of routing after departure should not trigger a reprice of the whole itinerary, just the $125 fee, unless a continent is being added.
Correct. But a change of routing (or as the fare rule states it "a change to ticketed points") will cause the taxes and charges to be recomputed.

The rules are explained more clearly in this document: https://www.oneworld.com/images/faqs/oneworldFAQPDF.pdf .
The linked document is a copy of the fare rules from 2018. Well out of date! However the rule on ticket changes is unchanged since then.

Whether you can get a QF agent to actually follow these rules is a different matter.
Agree!

I'm new to this so I welcome corrections. :tu:

See also the section on Ticket Changes in the wiki to this thread.

kayzng Mar 18, 2024 9:57 pm

Need some advice, my first segment from CAI - VIE is now assigned under IB Express and IB.
Can I still request it to assign to either RJ or BA? if yes, what are the potential charges that I need to pay?

izzik Mar 18, 2024 10:32 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36091198)
Need some advice, my first segment from CAI - VIE is now assigned under IB Express and IB.
Can I still request it to assign to either RJ or BA? if yes, what are the potential charges that I need to pay?

It's a reprice if you haven't started the trip because this is a change in routing (CAI-LHR-VIE instead of CAI-MAD-VIE).
Also, I don't think RJ flies to VIE.

Just curious but didn't you just get this ticketed? Why the sudden change?

ironmanjt Mar 18, 2024 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36091198)
Can I still request it to assign to either RJ or BA? if yes, what are the potential charges that I need to pay?

"Assign" isn't a concept in airline ticketing. You’d be asking to change the ticket which before departure of the first segment requires a full reprice.

That said only changing the routing from CAI-LHR should only involve a change in taxes and YQ. A few hundred dollars at most. But good look dealing with Qantas ticketing on this.

(edited because quote was missing a bracket)

danger Mar 19, 2024 7:41 am

Rule 4(l) states:


Within Australia - only one nonstop/single plane service flight is permitted between the following points:
BME - BNE/MEL/SYD
DRW - CBR/MEL/SYD
KTA - BNE/MEL/SYD
PER - BNE/CBR/CNS/SYD/MEL
Does this mean that only one flight combination from each of the four lines is permitted, or that only one combination from the entire four lines is permitted?

pandaperth Mar 19, 2024 8:27 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 36092013)
Rule 4(l) states:



Does this mean that only one flight combination from each of the four lines is permitted, or that only one combination from the entire four lines is permitted?

From the wiki to this thread:

The online booking tool interprets this rule to mean you are allowed only one of the flights depicted on this map
However, there have been recent (2019) reports here on FT that some airline telephone agents are allowing one flight to or from each of the west coast cities (subject to the overall limit of four flight segments for the continent)

dvs7310 Mar 20, 2024 3:56 am

I recall seeing someone post about fees to upgrade an individual segment at one point in time. I think they were talking about Y to PY and it was pretty steep. I can't find that anywhere with search or Google now.

Can someone point me in the right direction or help with that info? I've got one segment on a DONE5 that could be attractive to upgrade to F, but currently there's no A availability on that segment (I have an EF alert set for it).

danger Mar 20, 2024 4:06 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 36092128)
From the wiki to this thread:

The online booking tool interprets this rule to mean you are allowed only one of the flights depicted on this map

However, there have been recent (2019) reports here on FT that some airline telephone agents are allowing one flight to or from each of the west coast cities (subject to the overall limit of four flight segments for the continent)

If I click on that map it opens YouTube but as far as I can tell, PER-SYD-DRW-SYD is not excluded, even though the tool tells me otherwise.



Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36094473)
I recall seeing someone post about fees to upgrade an individual segment at one point in time. I think they were talking about Y to PY and it was pretty steep. I can't find that anywhere with search or Google now.

Can someone point me in the right direction or help with that info? I've got one segment on a DONE5 that could be attractive to upgrade to F, but currently there's no A availability on that segment (I have an EF alert set for it).

Subject to all the other rules and exemptions (e.g. intra-Middle East on two-class Qatar allows A on a DONEx), if any of your other flights are in A, I'm fairly sure you're up for an AONEx. Economy to premium economy is specifically permitted in the rules for an upcharge, but not business to first.

steveholt Mar 20, 2024 8:18 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36094473)
I recall seeing someone post about fees to upgrade an individual segment at one point in time. I think they were talking about Y to PY and it was pretty steep. I can't find that anywhere with search or Google now.

Can someone point me in the right direction or help with that info? I've got one segment on a DONE5 that could be attractive to upgrade to F, but currently there's no A availability on that segment (I have an EF alert set for it).

Y to PY, yes. It's in Section 12 here. In Section 16C, it notes that upgrading by sector to business/first class is not possible - you would be prompted to upgrade the entire thing from a DONE to AONE. Depending on the airline in question, you might get an upgrade offer and that could get you in F.

dvs7310 Mar 20, 2024 8:24 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 36094489)
If I click on that map it opens YouTube but as far as I can tell, PER-SYD-DRW-SYD is not excluded, even though the tool tells me otherwise.

Subject to all the other rules and exemptions (e.g. intra-Middle East on two-class Qatar allows A on a DONEx), if any of your other flights are in A, I'm fairly sure you're up for an AONEx. Economy to premium economy is specifically permitted in the rules for an upcharge, but not business to first.


Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 36095013)
Y to PY, yes. It's in Section 12 here. In Section 16C, it notes that upgrading by sector to business/first class is not possible - you would be prompted to upgrade the entire thing from a DONE to AONE. Depending on the airline in question, you might get an upgrade offer and that could get you in F.

Ah ok fair enough. I thought I remembered something that allowed a single segment upgrade. I'm sure the new JL A351 business class is just fine but would have been awesome to experience the new F cabin.

I looked up JL's mileage upgrade, it's 45,000 miles, which translates into way too many Marriott points than I think it's worth, and not even sure JL can upgrade if it's not their ticket. Sure wish AA would finally implement JL upgrades with SWUs or miles... I have a feeling it's coming with the recent QF announcement but likely not soon enough.

NotJustDreaming Mar 21, 2024 5:40 am

I booked my first xONEx this week. Thanks again all.

DONE3 with AA
The trip starts towards the end of January.
Everything after the dotted line is for travel after March 2025, so not on the fare calendar.
The dummy dates for the remaining 14 segments were booked into available dates/flight numbers over the subsequent 18 days remaining on the fare calendar.

I can't wrap my head around how and when I change the dates to something that is wanted and is available. Trip ends ~August 2025.

Today, the fare calendar is only open to 13 February.

If we want to travel BKK-HKG around 18 February, I'll be able to see that next week. But I can't change the subsequent 13 segments at that time because they're off the calendar.
Say I wait another month to change the date of BKK-HKG. Then the subsequent segments can be rebooked, but mostly with placeholders.

I could wait until September when the whole calendar is open for our travel days.

Is that when we change the dates?

What are the chances there is no availability for TWO seats in D for our city segments in February? (At the time of booking, one of the placeholder flights that I found did not have availability which trickled down after the agent found a new date.)

Or do we wait until after departure and change the dates for everything with only 4-6 week in advance of the next travel dates?

We're (almost) completely flexible but I am planning a lot of side trips that I'd prefer to book early.

Hope I'm making sense.
Advice/best practices?

CAI xAMM RJ
xAMM BKK RJ
.................
BKK HKG CX
HKG DPS CX
DPS KUL MH
KUL NRT JL
NRT HNL JL
HNL ANC AS
ANC LAX AS
LAX SJO AA
SJO DFW AA
DFW SFO AA
SFO MIA AA
MIA DOH QR
DOH AMM QR
AMM CAI RJ

allset2travel Mar 21, 2024 8:13 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36095040)
Ah ok fair enough. I thought I remembered something that allowed a single segment upgrade. I'm sure the new JL A351 business class is just fine but would have been awesome to experience the new F cabin.

I looked up JL's mileage upgrade, it's 45,000 miles, which translates into way too many Marriott points than I think it's worth, and not even sure JL can upgrade if it's not their ticket. Sure wish AA would finally implement JL upgrades with SWUs or miles... I have a feeling it's coming with the recent QF announcement but likely not soon enough.

Red/bold, my emphasis.

Prepandemic, I used SWU to UG from D to First Class (the 77W metal on AA). From recollection only, AA actually UG'd me on 3 contiguous flights (all had F). If I found the exact routing, I'd post an update. BTW, I even had STOP-OVER (more than 24 hours)! I never thought that was possible!

slhu82 Mar 21, 2024 2:06 pm

question for changes
 
Regarding changes, I received conflict information.

Oneworld website mentions 12 months since your first depart date. Representative mentions 12 months since issue date. Anyone has idea?

slhu82 Mar 21, 2024 2:09 pm

Did QF book for you? Are you sure you change the ticket after March 2025? I heard that QF only allows change in the 12 months of issue date. NotJustDreaming

Will AA still issue xCAI around 4000?


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