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izzik Mar 15, 2024 9:56 am
Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 36081338)
Be careful when booking an AA codeshare. There may be different availability on the codeshare vs the metal airline For me, no A class on JAL from TYO on the AA codeshare, while JAL metal did have seats. Also, the JV airlines may have better inventory amongst themselves. I thought that to use a codeshare flight the prior flight had to be the same airline as the marketing codeshare airline, AA -> AA codeshare, but not AA -> QR codeshare.
This is always true for codeshares, not just AA.
Example: Finnair codeshare on BA metal
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5fa90a74d8.png

jerry a. laska Mar 15, 2024 9:58 am
Originally Posted by sony2012 (Post 36082234)
thanks, not many options. I am flying IB (transathlantic), BA(only in and out of CAI, short flights), JAL over pacific and CX back to EU. On the flight options I got, I swtiched all the flights, and these were the cheapest. JAL flight from HND was not available on Business, so I booked CX with a stop in HKG. If I change it to the direct JAL flight later, will it reprice or is it only the change fee of 125USD?
Changing HND-HKG-XXX to HND-XXX is a rerouting that triggers a reprice. It is not just a change in carrier as your ticketed points are changing.

izzik Mar 15, 2024 9:59 am
Originally Posted by sony2012 (Post 36082234)
thanks, not many options. I am flying IB (transathlantic), BA(only in and out of CAI, short flights), JAL over pacific and CX back to EU. On the flight options I got, I swtiched all the flights, and these were the cheapest. JAL flight from HND was not available on Business, so I booked CX with a stop in HKG. If I change it to the direct JAL flight later, will it reprice or is it only the change fee of 125USD?
Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36082621)
Wasn't a critique - merely answering your question re: how these compared to pre-devaluation
Reprice is only triggered if you change routing. A change in carriers might trigger some additional YQ or taxes in addition to the 125, however.
Well, there is certainly a reprice in this case because switching from a stop in HKG to nonstop ex-HND is a routing change.

ironmanjt Mar 15, 2024 12:27 pm
Originally Posted by izzik (Post 36082779)
Well, there is certainly a reprice in this case because switching from a stop in HKG to nonstop ex-HND is a routing change.
Correct - I was pointing out WHY this is a reprice.

Keter Mar 15, 2024 5:03 pm
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36075679)
With regard to the AA rule about either TPAC or TATL being an AA flight, does an AA codeshare on someone else's metal satisfy the requirement?
It used to be just TATL that matters if both TATL and TPAC are present. Has to be AA marketed (no metal needed) to be autopriced under an AA fare. Said that any OW RTW fare can be ticketed on any OW carrier stock (it will be a permissible manual override with no preconditions). Both fare ownership and ticket stock follow same rule (default validating carrier logic).

sony2012 Mar 16, 2024 7:02 am
thanks @jerry a. laska, @izzik, @ironmanjt
I booked it via qantas as oneworld web directs the ticket to them and i got the confirmation but I haven't received an e-ticket, are they supposed to send an e-ticket? if so, how long does it usually take after booking it?

pandaperth Mar 16, 2024 8:11 am
Originally Posted by sony2012 (Post 36084804)
thanks @jerry a. laska, @izzik, @ironmanjt
I booked it via qantas as oneworld web directs the ticket to them and i got the confirmation but I haven't received an e-ticket, are they supposed to send an e-ticket? if so, how long does it usually take after booking it?
From the Qantas RTW web page:
What do I do if I haven’t received my e-ticket for my round the world booking?
You should receive an e-ticket within one business day. If you have not heard anything within two business days, contact your local Qantas office and quote your reference number, found on the confirmation page.
I bought my RTW ticket last Monday
By Tuesday I could see the eTicket on the Finnair site, but still no receipt or eTicket emailed to me
I phoned on Friday and then I got the receipt and eTicket

Keter Mar 16, 2024 2:23 pm
Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 33541559)
The booking into A for 2 class flights still exists for QR intra-ME 2 class flights but as noted above is no longer available for AA and AS.
See 5(a) of the rules here:
https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...d-explorer.pdf
The new tool does not seem to offer QR regional F despite it is still permitted by the rules.

Added: the issue in the tool is with something else as QR inbound to CAI is possible.

kayzng Mar 16, 2024 11:29 pm
Originally Posted by sony2012 (Post 36084804)
thanks @jerry a. laska, @izzik, @ironmanjt
I booked it via qantas as oneworld web directs the ticket to them and i got the confirmation but I haven't received an e-ticket, are they supposed to send an e-ticket? if so, how long does it usually take after booking it?
i got PNR almost immediately, credit card was charged the next day.
they didnt send any e-ticket, despite the first email with PNR mentioned what will send upon cc credit charged.
When i checked about 12 hours upon my booking, the PNR appeared in all airlines.
At 48 hours, they still didnt send the e-ticket, I called then they email instantly.

izzik Mar 17, 2024 3:13 pm
Originally Posted by sony2012 (Post 36084804)
thanks @jerry a. laska, @izzik, @ironmanjt
I booked it via qantas as oneworld web directs the ticket to them and i got the confirmation but I haven't received an e-ticket, are they supposed to send an e-ticket? if so, how long does it usually take after booking it?
There's also a possibility that it won't automatically ticket because there's a problem with the booking. I hope this is not your scenario.

ironmanjt Mar 17, 2024 3:14 pm
Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36086428)
i got PNR almost immediately, credit card was charged the next day.
they didnt send any e-ticket, despite the first email with PNR mentioned what will send upon cc credit charged.
When i checked about 12 hours upon my booking, the PNR appeared in all airlines.
At 48 hours, they still didnt send the e-ticket, I called then they email instantly.
Pretty much identical....got a PNR instantly from the OW tool

Credit card charged and ticket number visible on the AY site approximately 22 hours later.

ToKo Mar 18, 2024 6:17 am
I'm not quite sure whether this or the other thread on the RTW is the correct one I have now had a look at the ticket rules for DONE4 (here ex CAI, issued by QF - but also in general for possible future trips). Let's assume I only want to change the flight times after ticket was issued, but not the points visited and/or the route:

Code:
REBOOKING PRIOR TO DEPARTURE
          CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS
          REMAIN THE SAME. IF THE DATE IF THE FIRST FLIGHT
          COUPON IS BEING CHANGED AND THE FARE HAS
          INCREASED SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE THE DIFFERENCE
          BETWEEN THE OLD AND NEW FARE BE CHARGED.
          IF THE FARE LEVEL HAS DECREASED SINCE TICKET
          ISSUANCE NO REFUND WILL APPLY
.

So I am flexible before departure, but the base fare will always be adjusted to the fare valid at that time (let's assume it will increase case sooner or later from CAI)?

Code:
AFTER DEPARTURE
          A. CHANGES TO TICKETED POINTS PERMITTED AT A
          CHARGE OF USD125.00 PER TRANSACTION.
          B. NO SHOW REQUIRES REBOOKING AT A CHARGE OF USD
          125.00.
          C. IF THE REROUTING RESULTS IN A CHANGE TO THE
          TOTAL TICKETED MILES THE TICKET SHALL BE
          RECALCULATED.
          TICKET MAY BE REISSUED TO ANY APPLICABLE EXPLORER
          FARE VALIDATING ALL RULES OF THE NEW FARE EXCEPT
          FOR RESTRICTIONS ON RETROACTIVE USE.
          REROUTING FEE APPLIES WHEN THE RESULTING FARE IS
          LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO THE ORIGINAL FARE.  NO
          REFUND APPLIES.  SEE UPGRADING PROVISIONS WHEN
          RECALCULATION RESULTS IN A NEW FARE BASIS AT A
          HIGHER VALUE.
Now I have already flown leg 1 (outbound CAI to my hometown and purposely placed it quite early in the summer of 2024, while I will not start the actual RTW - further on from my hometown - until 2025).
* The base fare will not be adjusted subsequently?
* After departure of the 1st leg I can adjust times/days free of charge as long as the order of destinations remains unchanged?
* If I also want to adjust the order/destinations after departure of the 1st leg, I can do this for 125USD (per adjustment)?

Of course, all of this is subject to the basic rules (general routing, 16 segments, 34,000 miles).

Am I right or missing something?

ironmanjt Mar 18, 2024 8:35 am
Originally Posted by ToKo (Post 36089067)
Now I have already flown leg 1 (outbound CAI to my hometown and purposely placed it quite early in the summer of 2024, while I will not start the actual RTW - further on from my hometown - until 2025).
* The base fare will not be adjusted subsequently?
* After departure of the 1st leg I can adjust times/days free of charge as long as the order of destinations remains unchanged?
* If I also want to adjust the order/destinations after departure of the 1st leg, I can do this for 125USD (per adjustment)?

Of course, all of this is subject to the basic rules (general routing, 16 segments, 34,000 miles).

Am I right or missing something?
sounds right. Basics:

before departure any change triggers complete reprice.

after departure as long as it’s just date changes no reprice.

after departure if you change routing is when it gets tricky. It will likely reprice to current fares which could be much higher.

iwillflytheworld Mar 18, 2024 9:31 am
Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36089357)
before departure any change triggers complete reprice.
I don't think this is true. A change of date to any segment other than the first one should not trigger a reprice, even before departure.

I also think that changes of routing after departure should not trigger a reprice of the whole itinerary, just the $125 fee, unless a continent is being added.

The rules are explained more clearly in this document: https://www.oneworld.com/images/faqs/oneworldFAQPDF.pdf .

Whether you can get a QF agent to actually follow these rules is a different matter.

I'm new to this so I welcome corrections.

sony2012 Mar 18, 2024 9:37 am
Originally Posted by izzik (Post 36087880)
There's also a possibility that it won't automatically ticket because there's a problem with the booking. I hope this is not your scenario.
called Qantas and they said the ticket was already issued but it seems like email was never sent, though they do claim that I should have received it. Anyway, they sent an email with e-ticket number promptly as if I never received the email. Now I have the e-ticket number. Hope i am all set.


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