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jrobin Jul 31, 2023 9:19 pm

JFK-SYD as one flight segment
 

Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 35460459)
...ONEWORLD EXPLORER...
12. SURCHARGES

Economy Class Passengers may travel in AA, CX, IB, JL, QF Premium Economy cabin or BA World Traveller Plus cabin for an additional charge, per flight segment of:...

Sectors between SWP and North America ...

USD 1450.

Presumably this surcharge would include QF4 JFK-SYD as it counts as one flight segment?


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jerry a. laska Jul 31, 2023 11:13 pm


Originally Posted by jrobin (Post 35460908)
Presumably this surcharge would include QF4 JFK-SYD as it counts as one flight segment?


I'd say it should as it is a single flight number single segment, provided of course that you are flying straight thru and not stopping over in LAX to catch the next day's flight (in which case you would two segments).

Mwenenzi Jul 31, 2023 11:40 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 35461080)
I'd say it should as it is a single flight number single segment, provided of course that you are flying straight thru and not stopping over in LAX to catch the next day's flight (in which case you would two segments).

QF flys JFK-AKL-SYD as a single flight number QF4. A new route from 14 June 2023

Ivan Denisovich Aug 28, 2023 6:24 pm

I want to book a RTW starting in Japan with the first segment HND-PEK on JL.

JL doesn’t appear to be making D class available even close-in (I checked multiple dates on ExpertFlyer). Is it possible to book that segment in Y (any fare class) as a voluntary downgrade?

ernestnywang Aug 29, 2023 4:03 am


Originally Posted by Ivan Denisovich (Post 35536719)
I want to book a RTW starting in Japan with the first segment HND-PEK on JL.

JL doesn’t appear to be making D class available even close-in (I checked multiple dates on ExpertFlyer). Is it possible to book that segment in Y (any fare class) as a voluntary downgrade?

I believe yes if L class is available. Y class is only possible if the flight has no J cabin, but this is not the case.

t1379 Sep 4, 2023 11:04 am

Hoping someone can help me. I have an itinerary that I'm trying to book, and the ticketing airline is giving me problems.

Itinerary was valid on the Oneworld site and it let me make the booking. However, Qantas are claiming the itinerary is invalid due to it having 18 segments. Obviously, it was 16 on the OW site. My guess is they're counting BOS-LGA, JFK-LHR as 3 segments, whereas the OW site counted this as two. My understanding of the fare rules is that it talks about "city pairs" and therefore this should be two segments, as the system thought also.

Does anyone have experience with this and how was it resolved?

jerry a. laska Sep 4, 2023 11:24 am


Originally Posted by t1379 (Post 35552979)
Hoping someone can help me. I have an itinerary that I'm trying to book, and the ticketing airline is giving me problems.

Itinerary was valid on the Oneworld site and it let me make the booking. However, Qantas are claiming the itinerary is invalid due to it having 18 segments. Obviously, it was 16 on the OW site. My guess is they're counting BOS-LGA, JFK-LHR as 3 segments, whereas the OW site counted this as two. My understanding of the fare rules is that it talks about "city pairs" and therefore this should be two segments, as the system thought also.

Does anyone have experience with this and how was it resolved?

LGA-JFK is a separate segment.
From the rules:

A minimum of three and a maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any two airports, are permitted for the entire journey.
The concept of coterminals does not apply to Oneworld explorer tickets since the advent of e-tickets.

t1379 Sep 4, 2023 11:54 am


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 35553038)
LGA-JFK is a separate segment.

The concept of coterminals does not apply to Oneworld explorer tickets since the advent of e-tickets.

Thanks! I guess it's back to the drawing board. Another victim of the laggy RTW Oneworld site :(

dvs7310 Sep 6, 2023 4:23 am


Originally Posted by t1379 (Post 35553100)
Thanks! I guess it's back to the drawing board. Another victim of the laggy RTW Oneworld site :(

Did you actually try to book it through the OneWorld site? I had a QF issued ticket last year that most definitely had an invalid segment but booked on the OneWorld site and it ticketed within seconds. Mine was a married segment I forced to break without the 24 hour stopover, but the OW site was very happy to ticket it via QF without talking to a human. If the OneWorld site is validating it, I'm surprised it won't auto-ticket on QF. I talked to a couple human agents before going that route and they refused to try to force it to break, said it had to be XXX-ZZZ and couldn't enter it as XXX-YYY and YYY-ZZZ without the 24 hour stopover.

BTW just reading what you've written above, if they're telling you that you have 18 segments instead of the allowed 16 then you have one more somewhere else that's invalid. BOS-LGA / JFK-LHR is only 3 segments because of the somewhat ridiculous surface segment across Queens. You could just drop that segment entirely and pay cash for BOS-NYC on your own and it'd drop you down a segment, shouldn't be more than $100-150 for that one, but still sounds like you have an extra one in there somewhere else that shouldn't be. Any other surface segments?

wijibintheair Oct 1, 2023 3:44 am

Morning all.

It's been many years since I last did an XONEX ticket but am busy planning for one at the moment. I know many rules have changed since then so need some clarification on a specific flight. Is the non-stop DEL-JFK on AA still considered a transatlantic flight - which would therefore effectively cut out the ability to visit Europe? Or is it now considered a transpacific flight?

Thanks

pandaperth Oct 1, 2023 5:44 am


Originally Posted by wijibintheair (Post 35626889)
Morning all.

It's been many years since I last did an XONEX ticket but am busy planning for one at the moment. I know many rules have changed since then so need some clarification on a specific flight. Is the non-stop DEL-JFK on AA still considered a transatlantic flight - which would therefore effectively cut out the ability to visit Europe? Or is it now considered a transpacific flight?

Thanks

I believe it is considered a trans-pacific flight.
I tried it out in the on-line booking tool when the flight was first announced - see Oneworld Explorer considers AA's new JFK-DEL flight to be TPAC not Transatlantic - FlyerTalk Forums
But I do not recall seeing it documented anywhere on the Oneworld web site.

wijibintheair Oct 1, 2023 11:09 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 35627050)
I believe it is considered a trans-pacific flight.
I tried it out in the on-line booking tool when the flight was first announced - see Oneworld Explorer considers AA's new JFK-DEL flight to be TPAC not Transatlantic - FlyerTalk Forums
But I do not recall seeing it documented anywhere on the Oneworld web site.

Thank you!

eugnk Oct 2, 2023 9:32 am

I have successfully booked an XONEX a few weeks ago with JFK-DEL being treated as a transpacific leg.

Padkir Oct 5, 2023 6:53 am

Hi everyone.
Quick question - is the $125 change fee for changing ticketed points charged on a per passenger basis, or just a set fee per booking. For example, I have a DONE5 for my wife and I, under the same reference number. If I wanted to change the ticketing points, will that be $125 or $250 change fee?
Thanks!

pandaperth Oct 5, 2023 9:00 am


Originally Posted by Padkir (Post 35638433)
Hi everyone.
Quick question - is the $125 change fee for changing ticketed points charged on a per passenger basis, or just a set fee per booking. For example, I have a DONE5 for my wife and I, under the same reference number. If I wanted to change the ticketing points, will that be $125 or $250 change fee?
Thanks!

$250 for 2 pax


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