RTW / Round the World ticket - earning AAdvantage Miles
Sep 7, 2016, 2:11 pm
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RTW / Round the World ticket - earning AAdvantage Miles
Hi,
total newbie here, hope this is not a redundant Question.
I booked a super cheap ex-MPM oneworld-RTW ticket, and I get that with AA, the miles I do earn is dependant on the $ spent. on the partner airlines, its a function of the miles flown.
Now with the rtw ticket i have multiple choices with airlines i can fly on several legs. before introduction of the miles/$ spent clause, I would choose AA because that earned me the most miles. but with the new rules, if I want to maximise the miles i do get, is it possible that I could get more miles by flying partner airlines than flying with AA itself?
It'd help a lot how the miles i get are calculated if I fly AA since I only have A price on the whole ticket, not the $ I spent for the specific AA flight I do or do not choose. do they just divide the total amount I paid for the whole ticket by the segments and give me miles on that? if that is the case i think it would be far better if I fly partner airlines and not AA.
Hope my question isnt confusing. thx in advance
KR,
total newbie here, hope this is not a redundant Question.
I booked a super cheap ex-MPM oneworld-RTW ticket, and I get that with AA, the miles I do earn is dependant on the $ spent. on the partner airlines, its a function of the miles flown.
Now with the rtw ticket i have multiple choices with airlines i can fly on several legs. before introduction of the miles/$ spent clause, I would choose AA because that earned me the most miles. but with the new rules, if I want to maximise the miles i do get, is it possible that I could get more miles by flying partner airlines than flying with AA itself?
It'd help a lot how the miles i get are calculated if I fly AA since I only have A price on the whole ticket, not the $ I spent for the specific AA flight I do or do not choose. do they just divide the total amount I paid for the whole ticket by the segments and give me miles on that? if that is the case i think it would be far better if I fly partner airlines and not AA.
Hope my question isnt confusing. thx in advance
KR,
Sep 7, 2016, 2:15 pm
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What AA miles you will/can earn is hard to determine. You can tell us when the trip is complete.
On your route what segments are AA flight numbers?
What class of ticket [?ONE?]?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...advantage-733/
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ug-2016-a.html
On your route what segments are AA flight numbers?
What class of ticket [?ONE?]?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...advantage-733/
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ug-2016-a.html
Sep 7, 2016, 3:21 pm
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Welcome to FT!
This is a complicated question and part(s) of the answer will depend on a lot of specifics having to do with your ticket, destinations, class of service and choice of carriers. However it will hinge on AA's interpretation of how the new mileage rules apply to multi-stop, multi-carrier "integrated" tickets like RTWs, so I'm going to shoot the thread over to the AA board.
Good luck - you're asking a question that's on a lot of people's minds.
Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator
This is a complicated question and part(s) of the answer will depend on a lot of specifics having to do with your ticket, destinations, class of service and choice of carriers. However it will hinge on AA's interpretation of how the new mileage rules apply to multi-stop, multi-carrier "integrated" tickets like RTWs, so I'm going to shoot the thread over to the AA board.
Good luck - you're asking a question that's on a lot of people's minds.
Gardyloo
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Sep 7, 2016, 7:56 pm
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Hi,
total newbie here, hope this is not a redundant Question.
I booked a super cheap ex-MPM oneworld-RTW ticket, and I get that with AA, the miles I do earn is dependant on the $ spent. on the partner airlines, its a function of the miles flown.
Now with the rtw ticket i have multiple choices with airlines i can fly on several legs. before introduction of the miles/$ spent clause, I would choose AA because that earned me the most miles. but with the new rules, if I want to maximise the miles i do get, is it possible that I could get more miles by flying partner airlines than flying with AA itself?
It'd help a lot how the miles i get are calculated if I fly AA since I only have A price on the whole ticket, not the $ I spent for the specific AA flight I do or do not choose. do they just divide the total amount I paid for the whole ticket by the segments and give me miles on that? if that is the case i think it would be far better if I fly partner airlines and not AA.
Hope my question isnt confusing. thx in advance
total newbie here, hope this is not a redundant Question.
I booked a super cheap ex-MPM oneworld-RTW ticket, and I get that with AA, the miles I do earn is dependant on the $ spent. on the partner airlines, its a function of the miles flown.
Now with the rtw ticket i have multiple choices with airlines i can fly on several legs. before introduction of the miles/$ spent clause, I would choose AA because that earned me the most miles. but with the new rules, if I want to maximise the miles i do get, is it possible that I could get more miles by flying partner airlines than flying with AA itself?
It'd help a lot how the miles i get are calculated if I fly AA since I only have A price on the whole ticket, not the $ I spent for the specific AA flight I do or do not choose. do they just divide the total amount I paid for the whole ticket by the segments and give me miles on that? if that is the case i think it would be far better if I fly partner airlines and not AA.
Hope my question isnt confusing. thx in advance
1. What is the booking class of your ticket..L, D or A? Relevant as each class earns differently.
2. Who are the operating and marketing carriers for each flite? Relevant as AA and each other partner may have different earning rates per mile on each fare class
3. Are you referencing redeemable or elite qualifying miles? You earn both on each segment, but each is calculated differently.
4. What are you trying to maximize redeemable miles, elite qualifying miles or elite qualifying dollars? In large measure this depends on what status level you are aiming for and how easy it will be to reach both the miles and dollar spend requirements, considering your other 2017 travel.
5. Just to be sure, your questions imply that you are crediting miles to AA and are traveling in 2017, correct?
If you come back with that information it will be a lot easier to give you specifics. Also it would be worthwhile to look at the stick associated with this thread, which has reference to the basic information.
With the additional information, hopefully others will chime in and we can move to a consensus on what we know and do not know.
Cheers
Last edited by Microwave; Sep 8, 2016 at 12:39 am Reason: Corrected invalid quote syntax
Sep 7, 2016, 8:21 pm
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The answers to your questions depend on several variables that you did not mention:
1. What is the booking class of your ticket..L, D or A? Relevant as each class earns differently.
2. Who are the operating and marketing carriers for each flite? Relevant as AA and each other partner may have different earning rates per mile on each fare class
3. Are you referencing redeemable or elite qualifying miles? You earn both on each segment, but each is calculated differently.
4. What are you trying to maximize redeemable miles, elite qualifying miles or elite qualifying dollars? In large measure this depends on what status level you are aiming for and how easy it will be to reach both the miles and dollar spend requirements, considering your other 2017 travel.
5. Just to be sure, your questions imply that you are crediting miles to AA and are traveling in 2017, correct?
If you come back with that information it will be a lot easier to give you specifics. Also it would be worthwhile to look at the stick associated with this thread, which has reference to the basic information.
With the additional information, hopefully others will chime in and we can move to a consensus on what we know and do not know.
Cheers
1. What is the booking class of your ticket..L, D or A? Relevant as each class earns differently.
2. Who are the operating and marketing carriers for each flite? Relevant as AA and each other partner may have different earning rates per mile on each fare class
3. Are you referencing redeemable or elite qualifying miles? You earn both on each segment, but each is calculated differently.
4. What are you trying to maximize redeemable miles, elite qualifying miles or elite qualifying dollars? In large measure this depends on what status level you are aiming for and how easy it will be to reach both the miles and dollar spend requirements, considering your other 2017 travel.
5. Just to be sure, your questions imply that you are crediting miles to AA and are traveling in 2017, correct?
If you come back with that information it will be a lot easier to give you specifics. Also it would be worthwhile to look at the stick associated with this thread, which has reference to the basic information.
With the additional information, hopefully others will chime in and we can move to a consensus on what we know and do not know.
Cheers
I can personally verify this to be the case.
Last edited by Microwave; Sep 8, 2016 at 12:40 am Reason: Corrected invalid quote syntax
Sep 7, 2016, 9:53 pm
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Sep 7, 2016, 9:55 pm
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Sep 7, 2016, 10:15 pm
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...cial-fares.jsp
This is for all AA marketed and codeshare flights on RTW tickets.
For flights on other carriers, refer to the other chart.
This is for all AA marketed and codeshare flights on RTW tickets.
For flights on other carriers, refer to the other chart.
Last edited by Microwave; Sep 8, 2016 at 12:42 am Reason: Corrected invalid quote syntax; combined duplicative posts
Sep 7, 2016, 10:34 pm
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...cial-fares.jsp
This is for all AA marketed and codeshare flights on RTW tickets.
For flights on other carriers, refer to the other chart.
This is for all AA marketed and codeshare flights on RTW tickets.
For flights on other carriers, refer to the other chart.
Seems like you get a much better deal on RTW with AA code share whenever possible.
Last edited by Microwave; Sep 8, 2016 at 12:43 am Reason: Fixed quote after consolidating posts
Sep 7, 2016, 11:16 pm
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Sep 7, 2016, 11:31 pm
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...cial-fares.jsp
This is for all AA marketed and codeshare flights on RTW tickets.
For flights on other carriers, refer to the other chart.
This is for all AA marketed and codeshare flights on RTW tickets.
For flights on other carriers, refer to the other chart.
Last edited by Microwave; Sep 8, 2016 at 12:45 am Reason: Replaced duplicative content with a self quote
Sep 8, 2016, 12:17 am
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some additional information which might or might not help:
1. im traveling DONE4
2. im crediting Miles to AAdvantage
3. traveling in 2017 but one flight
thx for the special fare link surftb15, it all makes sense. AA would be stupid to not incentivise flying with their own planes.
To make sure I got it right:
EQMs per mile flown = 2 > 1,5 with all other carriers
Cabin Bonus = 50 => 50%-0% with all other carriers
EQD per miles flown = 30% => 30%-25% with all other carriers
right?
can you elaborate on the $12k threshold? why is that so important? not sure if I totally understand that quote. are you talking about earning EQM for $12k equivalent to qualify for some status?
Thx in advance
1. im traveling DONE4
2. im crediting Miles to AAdvantage
3. traveling in 2017 but one flight
thx for the special fare link surftb15, it all makes sense. AA would be stupid to not incentivise flying with their own planes.
To make sure I got it right:
EQMs per mile flown = 2 > 1,5 with all other carriers
Cabin Bonus = 50 => 50%-0% with all other carriers
EQD per miles flown = 30% => 30%-25% with all other carriers
right?
Thx in advance
Last edited by gearassss; Sep 8, 2016 at 1:39 am Reason: Merged consecutive posts for readability; updated quote of edited post
Sep 8, 2016, 4:15 am
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how cheap is that sort of ticket? what kind of countries / restrictions do you have?
Sep 8, 2016, 4:47 am
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here are all the details of the rtw ticket.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...cket-faqs.html
the ticket is issued in the local currency where you start the trip (with some exceptions), and if a currency loses a lot of value in a short period vs the currency you pay with, sometimes tickets get ridiculously cheap. i paid less than 3,5k USD for a 4-continent trip covering africa, asia, north america and europe on business class
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...cket-faqs.html
the ticket is issued in the local currency where you start the trip (with some exceptions), and if a currency loses a lot of value in a short period vs the currency you pay with, sometimes tickets get ridiculously cheap. i paid less than 3,5k USD for a 4-continent trip covering africa, asia, north america and europe on business class