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moral_low_ground Aug 7, 2025 6:20 am

yes, but my point was to the last two posts that a simple date change does not involve a re-price just revalidation.

If the ticket was being re-issued then sure, I agree there may be a price change due to taxes - but changing a date should not involve this.

izzik Aug 7, 2025 7:34 am


Originally Posted by moral_low_ground (Post 37248727)
yes, but my point was to the last two posts that a simple date change does not involve a re-price just revalidation.

If the ticket was being re-issued then sure, I agree there may be a price change due to taxes - but changing a date should not involve this.

I thought this was a change of carrier... or are you citing a different situation?
Last but not least, the ticketing carrier may act differently... AA vs BA vs QF vs JL vs...

moral_low_ground Aug 7, 2025 8:19 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37248857)
I thought this was a change of carrier... or are you citing a different situation?
Last but not least, the ticketing carrier may act differently... AA vs BA vs QF vs JL vs...

My contention is that change of carrier on a RTW makes no difference and in fact I had another conversation with BA and a supervisior in BA today who agreed with me that there is nothng in the fare rules that allows for a change fee when keeping the same route but changing the date and/or carrier.

Perhaps on a non-rtw I could maybe see the logic but there is a fare for a rtw for all carriers.

So lets see - its currently back with BA ticketing for them to justify why there is a change fee (or any other fee for that matter) when there is nothing in the fare rules.

Dr. HFH Aug 8, 2025 4:32 am


Originally Posted by moral_low_ground (Post 37248727)
yes, but my point was to the last two posts that a simple date change does not involve a re-price just revalidation.

If the ticket was being re-issued then sure, I agree there may be a price change due to taxes - but changing a date should not involve this.


Originally Posted by moral_low_ground (Post 37248954)
My contention is that change of carrier on a RTW makes no difference . . . .

Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought that you were asking why AA had to send the ticket to the rate desk when there's no change fee if you don't change ticketed points, and only change dates/times/carriers. Yes, there's no change fee, but the agents with whom you deal don't know whether there's been a change in taxes, etc., since the ticket was first issued. That's what the rate desk does.

moral_low_ground Aug 8, 2025 5:55 am

So, BA have now agreed with me that there is no change fee so that at least proves my point, and for all of us in the future, that there is NO change fee due for changing carrier or date (as long as the ticketed points remain the same)

It is also my understanding that there is no need to re-calculate the taxes as all taxes have been paid previously and I am just revalidating the ticket (otherwise there would ALWAYS be a difference due to exchange rate differences from time of booking to now even if the taxes (in local currency) remained the same - which is quite likely for most tickets)

Lets see what the fares desk come back with and if they just do the change at no cost as they did last time when changing my AKL - JFK (date change from May to June and carrier change from QF to AA Codeshare)


flyhurl Aug 8, 2025 8:50 am

Thanks for the discussion
 
Thanks for this discussion. Moral... have you started flying on the ticket? I am trying to keep it clear in my mind when repricing, change fees, and surcharge/taxes are charged.

Based on my experience and reading the Oneworld rules in our sticky :

I "think" repricing happens if you have not flown yet. I "think" change fees happen when you change flights (not for simple date or carrier changes) after starting travel. I "think" surcharge/taxes can be charged on any change after starting travel - this seems to be case you are pursuing. Hope you find out that I am wrong about the surcharges/ taxes for date changes only.

Please report what your results are. Thank you.

izzik Aug 9, 2025 5:37 am


Originally Posted by moral_low_ground (Post 37246617)
BA are the ticketing carrier (probably for the last time on a ticket like this!)

Just curious but why did you choose ba for ticketing?

ademanuele Aug 9, 2025 7:05 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37252671)
Just curious but why did you choose ba for ticketing?

We recently booked a RTW, first few flights with BA (OSL-LHR-GIG-EZE-...), all the rest other oneworld including several QR flights. Our travel agent ticketed with QR as BA were (significantly) more expensive.

flyhurl Aug 9, 2025 7:38 am

So the only way to get ticketing with QR is through a TA? I don't really mind working with a TA but having had one go out of business I have not done so in awhile.

ademanuele Aug 9, 2025 8:05 am


Originally Posted by flyhurl (Post 37252825)
So the only way to get ticketing with QR is through a TA? I don't really mind working with a TA but having had one go out of business I have not done so in awhile.

Not sure, this is our second RTW and our travel agent (Trailfinders) came back to us with the option of who we book with. To be honest I was not aware that we would have an option and was happy to go with QR and pay less.

skipaway Aug 9, 2025 11:36 am


Originally Posted by flyhurl (Post 37252825)
So the only way to get ticketing with QR is through a TA? I don't really mind working with a TA but having had one go out of business I have not done so in awhile.

This may be so, but if you want QR as carrier on first flight, you need a TA to book. It might be possible to book with AA's RTW desk if you can get them to accept an AA South America flight as the overseas segment, but I haven't heard any success stories. I'm just planning using TA henceforth.

moral_low_ground Aug 9, 2025 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37252671)
Just curious but why did you choose ba for ticketing?

Partly because the first segment was with BA but mainly because I am spending more than a year travelling so my Itinerary is going to be changed a lot as half the ticket will not be confirmed until Oct this year when I can plan the US portion of the ticket (I start in Oslo in Jan 2026 and end in Oslo Jan 2027). Dealing with a known entity, roughly in my current timezone (even if they are awful), was part of my reasoning.

Second, I was going to book with Trailfinders and they seemed good when I rang them first time, but then they told me that although date changes were "free" Trailfinders would charge me 250 GBP (maybe it was 250 USD but whatever) for every change I made - which was their admin fee. Given I will make 5 or 6 changes to this ticket that was never going to work.

work2fly Aug 9, 2025 12:51 pm

I am just starting planning a DONEX itin for my family of 4. We would begin in OSL. 2 of us need to fly approximately 11,000 miles on AY, BA, AA, or IB to retain AY Plat status. Is there a permitted itin from OSL-SFO that would only include EU and NA, hit the 11K mileage goal, yet leave 1 onward segment available from SFO-LAX so we could connect to LAX-HND and leave 1 EU segment available for LHR-OSL to close out the RTW?

As an example, is HEL-LPA-LHR permitted? That combined with LHR-MIA-SFO gets us very close.

izzik Aug 9, 2025 2:33 pm

Why not go osl hel doh on AY then DOH SFO on AA codeshare?

izzik Aug 9, 2025 9:17 pm

though the AY segments won't accrue much with AY+.. so, in that case, perhaps OSL-LHR-DOH on BA would be better earnings.


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