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spherehopper Aug 4, 2025 1:52 am


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37241569)
I would if it appeared in the list, as my screen shot shows it does not appear.
It's either an IT problem, i.e. the RTW tool does not work in the Firefox browser on my Windows 11 laptop, or OW don't want me buying a ticket!

Running W11 on a laptop with the Brave browser and OSL loads OK.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bdf24dc0c8.jpg


dvs7310 Aug 4, 2025 1:58 am


Originally Posted by wandering_fred (Post 37240095)
About a week ago DONE4 "ranking" lowest first BASE price no taxes from Expert Flyer
Apologies for the eclectic start points
JNB,OSL,India, Japan, BUD, CMB, ARN, IST, KUL, PER, BKK

Not an exhaustive search but while looking for OSL-CAI, I noticed BA had D0/L0 on all dates I checked
Happy wandering
Fred

You left out Pakistan which is cheaper than India or Sri Lanka, however the excise tax in both India and Pakistan may put the total price over others.


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37240189)
That's not listed in order of cheapest to expensive, is it?
Osl is lower than jnb... And jnb is not the cheapest starting point in Africa.

Curious where else in Africa you've found cheaper? The only one I recall was WDH which doesn't have OW service anymore.

Edit: Think I have found it, I was thinking continental Africa. But also in the meantime found Algeria is slightly cheaper as well, though not an easy visa.

Interestingly I can not find any OW RTW fares from Senegal or Seychelles, I wonder if that's just an Expertflyer issue? (as well as Madagascar, Comoros, Cabo Verde, Lesotho, Eswatini, or Reunion but I know not all of those have OW service).


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37240345)
That is a big detour. I have no aim to include North America in my RTW trip.

It might end up being the better way once you get deeper into planning. Since there are no OW flights within South America anymore, the only way to skip North America is to fly SYD-SCL then buy your own tickets SCL-EZE and EZE-UIO, none of which will be cheap unless you're willing to slum it on the local LCCs (not sure if UIO has LCC service).


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37241569)
I would if it appeared in the list, as my screen shot shows it does not appear.
It's either an IT problem, i.e. the RTW tool does not work in the Firefox browser on my Windows 11 laptop, or OW don't want me buying a ticket!

The tool is buggy but have never seen it not find OSL. It's not a Firefox issue if you're getting London airports to come up, it should be all or nothing. There was a time when the online tool blocked CAI and other Egypt departures, but OSL has never had that. I just tried it in my browser (Chrome) and it worked fine for an OSL start.

allset2travel Aug 4, 2025 6:03 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 37236664)
I stopped accruing to AAdvantage when they went to a revenue-based model, and switched to QRPC.

Me too, after 14 years of EP with AA. The rest of my ex-HND DONE3 will be credited to QR. :D

wandering_fred Aug 4, 2025 6:48 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 37241530)
I think you misread ExperFlyer Fred
ex-JNB
DONE3 base fare is USD5855.80
DONE4 base fare is USD6422.80
{And I don't know why 3-continent fares are showing, since it is impossible to construct a valid 3-continent itinerary starting anywhere in Africa. Not since LATAM left the alliance and thus its JNB-GRU flight was no longer available)

Copied directly from the ExpertFlyer results page
Fares for JNB to JNB on 09/15/25
DONE3 QR D Round-Trip 5092.00(USD) C-/12M
DGLOB34 QR D Round-Trip 5585.00(USD) C--/12M
DONE4 QR D Round-Trip 5585.00(USD) C--/12M

I thought it might be a QR issue which is why I checked BA fares before the initial "claim"

Anyone have access to a South African TA who can clarify the current cost of wandering
Fred

zaphod424 Aug 4, 2025 8:28 am


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37241569)
I would if it appeared in the list, as my screen shot shows it does not appear.
It's either an IT problem, i.e. the RTW tool does not work in the Firefox browser on my Windows 11 laptop, or OW don't want me buying a ticket!

I've also always had issues with the tool on Firefox, it just doesn't show most airports (icl Oslo), but does show some, and which oes it does and doesn't show seems random. But it works fine with chrome, and seemingly on other browsers too.

PHLGovFlyer Aug 4, 2025 9:18 am


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37240344)
How do you get the RTW tool to start in OSL? Don't want to start in LHR as it's much more expensive.


Originally Posted by BMarkus (Post 37240353)
Just type in OSL or OSLO and it find it.


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37241556)
You can see from my image that when I enter Oslo that it does not appear. The same happens when I enter Budapest. So how is it that you get it to appear?


Originally Posted by siw (Post 37241569)
I would if it appeared in the list, as my screen shot shows it does not appear.
It's either an IT problem, i.e. the RTW tool does not work in the Firefox browser on my Windows 11 laptop, or OW don't want me buying a ticket!


Originally Posted by zaphod424 (Post 37242106)
I've also always had issues with the tool on Firefox, it just doesn't show most airports (icl Oslo), but does show some, and which oes it does and doesn't show seems random. But it works fine with chrome, and seemingly on other browsers too.

FWIW I have the exact same issue running Firefox on Macbook. A sizeable number of airports (e.g. OSL) simply don't show up when you try to enter the code or the full name. However, when I switch to Chrome the tool will find basically every airport OW serves.

BMarkus Aug 4, 2025 9:50 am

The webpage has an issue with Firefox. So far we know it. I did some investigation. The data are loaded, so OSL as an airport is there but cannot be found when you search for it. Time to send OW an bug report.

dutch_122 Aug 4, 2025 9:54 am

Edge is working with the tool.

Gardyloo Aug 4, 2025 3:28 pm


Originally Posted by wandering_fred (Post 37241954)
Copied directly from the ExpertFlyer results page
Fares for JNB to JNB on 09/15/25
DONE3 QR D Round-Trip 5092.00(USD) C-/12M
DGLOB34 QR D Round-Trip 5585.00(USD) C--/12M
DONE4 QR D Round-Trip 5585.00(USD) C--/12M

I thought it might be a QR issue which is why I checked BA fares before the initial "claim"

Anyone have access to a South African TA who can clarify the current cost of wandering
Fred

I believe the issue is with Expert Flyer.

When you input JNB>JNB using AA and denominated in USD (EF's default) a DONE4 comes in at $6422. If you keep USD but change to QR or BA it changes to $5585.

When you change it to pricing in ZAR (as it would in the real world) using AA, EF doesn't return any fares for D or A anything. Using QR or BA gives the price at 101,110 ZAR. Converting at today's FX rates that comes to US$5639, close enough to $5585 for FX fluctuations to account for the difference.
Swapping OSL for JNB, all three come in at 57,950 NOK, which converts to US$5623, which is what EF shows (more or less) as the USD price.

So the issue is EF and AA. Maybe a problem with Sabre vs. Amadeus?

Mwenenzi Aug 4, 2025 3:58 pm

Some (all?) post over last few days more of a topic for--> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...ease-read.html
Better if threads kept on topic, even if some posts get moved to the correct thread

Gardyloo Aug 4, 2025 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37243009)
Some (all?) post over last few days more of a topic for--> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...ease-read.html
Better if threads kept on topic, even if some posts get moved to the correct thread

I'm going to leave them here for now rather than make people have to bounce around. But longer term, you're right.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

Dr. HFH Aug 5, 2025 4:29 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 37242943)
I believe the issue is with Expert Flyer.

When you input JNB>JNB using AA and denominated in USD (EF's default) a DONE4 comes in at $6422. If you keep USD but change to QR or BA it changes to $5585.

When you change it to pricing in ZAR (as it would in the real world) using AA, EF doesn't return any fares for D or A anything. Using QR or BA gives the price at 101,110 ZAR. Converting at today's FX rates that comes to US$5639, close enough to $5585 for FX fluctuations to account for the difference.

So if I actually buy a DONE4, the USD price would be $5,585? Do you know if there's any way to make this apply to tickets purchased from the AA RTW desk? When I set purchasing city to DFW, that's the fare I got, but not for AA, which was significantly more.

dvs7310 Aug 5, 2025 7:40 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 37243876)
So if I actually buy a DONE4, the USD price would be $5,585? Do you know if there's any way to make this apply to tickets purchased from the AA RTW desk? When I set purchasing city to DFW, that's the fare I got, but not for AA, which was significantly more.

I remember when last year's ex-CAI fare was disappearing, MH still had theirs published much later than others, and AA was issuing on the MH fare. Also similar happened when ex-Japan increased, I think it was MH and CX that remained lower for quite some time and I recall people saying that AA was issuing on those. Since AA does have a fare ex-JNB/CPT/DUR, etc. maybe they won't do it now, but it's worth trying to tell them that the QR fare is much lower and ask to have that one used. Should that fail, MRU isn't too far away and is in that range too on all carriers.

izzik Aug 5, 2025 8:46 am

If the issue is with EF, what are you going to reference?
Why would AA care?

Dr. HFH Aug 5, 2025 9:49 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 37244189)
I remember when last year's ex-CAI fare was disappearing, MH still had theirs published much later than others, and AA was issuing on the MH fare. Also similar happened when ex-Japan increased, I think it was MH and CX that remained lower for quite some time and I recall people saying that AA was issuing on those. Since AA does have a fare ex-JNB/CPT/DUR, etc. maybe they won't do it now, but it's worth trying to tell them that the QR fare is much lower and ask to have that one used.

Thank you, very helpful.



Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 37244189)
Should that fail, MRU isn't too far away and is in that range too on all carriers.

Do you remember the old days of buying these from BA at MRU?


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