Original itin

HND-JFK-LAX-SEA-DOH-VIE-DOH-LHR//CDG-DOH-AKL-SYD-HKG-BKK-HND



Suggested 16-Segment Itin:

HND-JFK-LAX-ANC-DFW-SEA-DOH-xLHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-AKL-SYD-HKG-KUL-BKK-HND

Around here at FT, most of us like to max the 16-segment itinerary, and eliminate any ground segments if possible. You have 14 segments including 1 ground.

Here are some suggestions (may or may not work for you)

1. To cover VIE, I’d use an inexpensive side trip from CDG (separate return tickets), but not from LHR as the APD is rather ridiculous. I’d transit LHR only. If you need to be in UK for more than 24 hours, take the EuroStar from CDG.

2. In the US (North America), you can add more segments. I took the liberty of modifying it as shown above. There are more possibilities. BTW, Alaska is a fantastic state to visit.

3. I added 1 more segment in Asia KUL-BKK (note that MH metal is 738 and not great, but gets you more RDM etc.

4. I think LAX-ANC is on AS metal. Please check if that is seasonal.

Hope this helps

Welcome to the world of xONEx planning :D
Your itinerary, HND-JFK-LAX-SEA-DOH-VIE-DOH-LHR//CDG-DOH-AKL-SYD-HKG-BKK-HND, is valid
It has

• 14 segments (the surface segment between LHR and CDG counts as one of the allowed 16 segments)
• Four flight segments in Europe (the maximum allowed)
• Two stopovers in Asia (the maximum allowed in your continent of origin)

You could use the remaining two segments to have more flights in Nth America (Alaska perhaps, or the Caribbean), or in the Southwest Pacific (Fiji perhaps)

Happy planning!

ETA allset2travel beat me too it - with some good ideas

Last but not least -- try booking with CX...the online tool will ticket with QF and any subsequent changes will incur pain for yourself.
There are quite a few travel agents in HKG as well, I think?

FWIW I just priced up an ex-JAPAN DONE4; first flight with JL
When I clicked on "Book Itinerary", I was offered the choice:

• Book with JL (would have to phone JL to pay), or
• Book with QF (could pay online and then auto ticketed by QF)

Really appreciate for the suggestion. Didn't think of ANC actually, so might be worth a transfer in LAX then get up to ANC and back to SEA before leaving US alone.

The VIE option is more leaning to a MR so I might just keep it or replace it further west in Europe or Nordic could be an option tho

Just figured out CX did a 5th freedom flight between SIN-BKK so it might be better to replace the KUL leg as HKG-xSIN-BKK and come back to HKG on a separate ticket

You guys are a quick and expert :D
though even the original itinerary is a bit stretched for me, likely I will need to break it once I am back in Europe and travel back to HKG just to not leave home for too long away.
Did have a thought on ex-OSL but seems not worth the travel from Asia just to start the journey and seems a bit troublesome to get myself back to Europe somewhere in the middle of the itinerary:(

Thanks, was thinking to book with JL from the beginning if I really press the call to book. will check with CX in parallel but not sure if CX could book on those JL codeshare AA flights for US domestic.

Not quite sure about the travel agent part but I would imagine it quite challenging for normal agent here in HKG

I would like to check validity of this itinerary to make sure I understand rule correctly.


HND -> xDFW -> BUR -> xDFW -> SCL -> xDFW -> LAX -> xDOH -> AMM -> CAI // IST -> xDOH -> MLE -> xKUL -> BJS// PEK -> HND

1. 14 flight segments and 2 surface segments (CAI//IST and BJS//PEK) for total 16 segments. (Max 16 segments)
2. Asia 2 stopovers- BJS//PEK and MLE. (the maximum allowed in the continent of origin)
3. 3 flight segments in Europe (xDOH -> AMM -> CAI, IST -> xDOH), (Max 4 flight segments in Europe)
4. 3 flight segments in NA. (Max 6 segments in NA)
Anything else I am missing? BJS//PEK (2 different airpots in Beijing count as one stopover?)

All your points are correct.
Including BJS-PEK counting as one stopover. That they are in the same city doesn't matter. You could say travel by train down to Hong Kong and fly to Japan from there. Still just one stopover.

Hi all

BAEC member who is now looking at options without paying BA a fortune for a cr*p product and the RTW options (enjoying QR/QF/JAL etc.) seems a very cost effective way of doing it.
I have played around with the OneWorld site this morning and just crudely put together this itinerary

Oslo - London - Doha - Sydney - Singapore - Tokyo - New York - Helsinki - Oslo

The only BA leg is Oslo to London and I had to go with QF on SYD-SIN even though the earnings are lower. I think this would net around 14,550 nTP's for around £5,220 but I can't find the fare code on the site, will all Business class flights (which all of them are) definitely book into 'D' class?

This comes out at 29,300 miles (out of a maximum allowed of 34,000) so if anybody has ideas to increase the milage / nTP earnings while still being able to route via QR/JAL or AY, suggestions are very much appreciated.

Pilot37

Hi Pilot37

If you haven't already done so, I recommend you read the wiki to this thread.

Some responses for you:
"...I had to go with QF on SYD-SIN"... Well yes, the only Oneworld airlines that fly between SYD and SIN are QF and BA.

"...will all Business class flights (which all of them are) definitely book into 'D' class?". Yes, definitely.

"...out of a maximum allowed of 34,000...". Oneworld has two round-the-world products. The GlobalExplorer (which has a limit of 34,000 miles for Business and First class tickets), and the Oneworld Explorer which has no mileage limit and instead is charged based on the number of continents touched. Your proposed itinerary would be a four-continent ticket. The on-line tool can book either product, and often gets itself confused, which is why you were no doubt getting messages about exceeding the 34,000 mile limit.

Many thanks pandaperth !
I'll review the Wiki again and play around with options on the OW tool - but very helpful responses. I had the BAEC earning data learnt by heart, so feels like teaching an old dog new tricks having to learn a new mileage accrual system from scratch!

Pilot37

My first DONE3
 

Hi all,
Been reading this forum for a long time but first time posting here :)

Due to BAEC rule changing i'm planning my very first DONE3 trip in May. After reading this super helpful thread and some quick research i'm now trying to look into this route, starting from japan:
HND-SIN-oHKG-DOH-oMAD-DOH-oLHR-DOH-LAX-oSFO-oANC-SEA-oJFK-HND
My goal is to maximise total miles travaled so I can try to reach BA gold under the new system. If i did the calculation correctly this route should provide me ~19k new BA TP, only 1k more needed to gold

I tried to validate this route on the xONEx online tool but it told me "You can take only one flight from Alaska to any city in US and one flight to Alaska from any city in US.", and the choose flight button was grayed out.

i'm confused:
1. Is my current route valid? I believe i'm allowed to fly from the mainland to alaska and back. Am i wrong?
2. The online tool refused to price the ticket due to the error above so i guess i have to call someone to issue ticket? I'm now considering JL as I've read in this thread that AA may refuse ticketing if theres no transoceanic flight on AA, or QR may refuse it if theres multiple transfer at DOH, are these still the case?
3. Any suggestions to my current route would be super helpful. It would be great if i can get 1k more new BA TP on this trip

It would be really great if any of my questions could be answered, and thank you all in advance as this thread has already helped me a lot :D

Return flights between mainland and alaska?
 

Trying to book my first DONE3 trip, and my current plan is asia-europe-oLAX-oANC-SEA-oBOS-asia. Tried booking on the online tool but it kept saying "You can take only one flight from Alaska to any city in US and one flight to Alaska from any city in US." and the find flights button was grayed out.
I've checked the rule and i believe i can fly from the mainland to alaska and back. Am i wrong? Or thats an error on the tool?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Accidentally posted the same question twice, sorry!

The online tool is buggy! But the rules clearly state "Additionally, only one flight to Anchorage (ANC) and one flight from Anchorage (ANC) permitted." You have to book by calling sadly.

Yes, AA need an AA-marketed flight to cross Pacific / Atlantic which contradicts the goal of maximising new Tier Points. I am solving this by using a Travel Agent hopefully.

To explicitly maximise miles you could do something like (with o I think meaning a layover rather than stopover)
HND-DEL-oHND-SIN-oHND-oDOH-CMN-oDOH-LIS-oDOH-LAX-ORD-SEA-JFK-ANC-JFK-HND

That's 61k miles as per gcpmap and most of these you can get JAL / DOH / AY codeshares for pretty much all of them? So 30k nTP which is overkill for the new Gold (and wouldn't get you anything towards GGL because that requires BA-marketed flights I believe?)