Quick question on booking a Oneworld RTW, Given the errors that the tool brings up, I'm struggling to get the precise itinerary I want ticketed. The early flights in the itinerary are okay, but some of the later ones - 3-4 months down the road don't seem to want to work.

Wondering what people's thoughts are about going with an itinerary that the tool will allow me to ticket and then modifying it over the phone once it's booked and in the system. Any experiences with doing this? I'm looking at a DONE4 originating from NRT at present. First flight to KUL on Japan Airlines, but it could also be on Malaysian Airlines.

Am I likely to end up being ticketed with Qantas? If so (and this is problematic), any way to avoid it?

Impossible to say with 100% certainty, but most likely if the first flight is JL then it'll be ticketed by JL. In that case you should be able to manage the future of the reservation without too many headaches vs. QF. Frankly if you end up with a QF ticket from that itinerary I'd cancel it immediate and charge back the 5% because it shouldn't happen. In the chargeback dispute, copy in the threads from here. :D

Just be aware that JL has their own ticketing fee and a separate change fee on all changes that are separate from the OW rules. It's not overly costly but would add up if you're making tons of changes over the course of the ticket.

Personally if you're going for the OW tool ex-TYO I'd aim for a CX issued ticket, if you have an available segment for the HKG transit. If you start seeing prices in AUD then abandon it immediately because that means it'll be QF issued.

BTW, I know that NRT-KUL flight fairly well, personally I'd prefer it on MH metal vs. JL metal. It's recently gone back to the (inferior) A330 on MH vs. the A350, but still I prefer MH crews. To each their own on that, but if you book via the tool your hand will likely be forced since it's the first segment. Either JL flight and issued, or MH flight and (hopefully) issued. No one has really talked about MH issued RTWs, so have no idea how decent or awful they are.

Also, if you end up going the CX route with transit in HKG, then it will not auto-ticket in the OW tool. You'll have to call in for a payment link and can make necessary modifications then, before ticketing, so no $125 charge.

I'm sure you realize that Oneworld sapphire will let you choose MCE on AA... so I'm guessing that you want the miles credited to AA for MIA-LHR ?

Separately, you can try to do the FFN switcheroo on day of travel but be warned that it's a royal hassle to undo points crediting with BA.
AA also frowns on using their status to get status-related perks, only to then switch to a non-AA status for accrual.

From https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...abin-extra.jsp - AT sapphire doesn't get MCE

Who gets complimentary Main Cabin Extra seats?

• AAdvantage Executive Platinum®, AAdvantage Platinum Pro® and AAdvantage Platinum® members
• oneworld® Sapphire and Emerald members with elite status on Alaska Airlines, British Airways, Iberia, Finnair, Qatar Airways or Japan Airlines

I don't care about accrual, so the FFN switcheroo isn't what I'm looking for. Just wondering if people have been able to assign different FFNs to different segments at booking/far out for seat selection purposes.

Okay thanks that's very helpful. However, I tried to get it issued with MH by using them as the first carrier via the online tool and it issued a ticket with QF!

I'll cancel that - payment is not taken and they should not be able to charge me without further authorization on my card.

I'm assuming the reason for aiming to ticket with CX is that they are much better at dealing with these tickets?

That's annoying that QF is getting MH bookings too. As long as the ticket isn't issued yet then you should be able to cancel with no penalty.

Yeah, CX isn't bad to deal with, it's not as good as AA since there is no dedicated number to call into. You still have to deal with general customer service who will then forward your request to the team that handles RTWs, but it's nowhere near as bad as QF.

Oops I read that as AS not AT.

Not sure if it would, but a sticky on points like these might help novices? (MH first sector gets ticketed by QF, JL charge an extra fee but are decent to deal with, CX are decent but you need to go through the general line, QF have issues with a,b,c,d…)

It would certainly help me and I'm not exactly a novice. Have been doing RTW's since the late 90's. The problem is that it's a constantly evolving landscape and since I did my last one in 2020 or so everything has changed.

Thanks again. Ended up calling the US number to cancel and did so without any great problem. I think I'm going to end up ticketing this via a T/A.

By the way, does anyone know if Air Tahiti Nui flights can be included in a DONE4? If I'm posting in the wrong thread, please feel free to send me in the right direction. I'm sure I read something about Air Tahiti Nui flights on a Oneworld RTW on Flyertalk, but I can't find it. Last I saw you could include QF codeshare services operated by Air Tahiti Nui, but that was back in 2016.

No, Air Tahiti Nui flights can't be booked as part of a oneworld Explorer.

Bollocks. Okay thanks, good to know. Not even if they are QF codeshare services operated by Air Tahiti Nui?

I'm trying to work out which Pacific destinations I can get on on a Oneworld Explorer and how. Ideally from Australia to LAX or DFW. Does anyone have experience with this?

I also looked at BNE/HIR/NAN/LAX (or DFW) - QF and Fiji Airlines flights - but couldn't get the online tool to price it.

This is from the rules in ExperFlyer:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...70eedb3359.png

Fiji Airways also isn't in an option as it's not in oneworld.

Okay thanks,but Fiji Airways is in Oneworld since June 24 - see here : https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/...rways-oneworld so surely should be bookable on a Oneworld Explorer.

I guess other that that, the objective would be to find QF and AA flights into and out of Pacific destinations.

No, FJ isn't a member, it's a "oneworld connect" member, which largely seems to be useless.

https://www.oneworld.com/members

Ah okay thanks - hadn't twigged there was a difference!

They'll be a OW member in the next 1-2 years, but not yet unfortunately. Until that happens, you can't used them on DONEx. You can however used them on DGLOB34, but then you're limited to 34k miles in total which may or may not be possible based on how many intentional long-er haul segments you have than is actually necessary to complete your itinerary. Just for example, something intentionally criss-crossing continents like xxx-JFK-SEA-DOH-DUB-DOH-MAD-DOH-xxx isn't likely to work on a DGLOB34, that needs to be done on a DONEx where mileage doesn't matter.

But DGLOB34 and DONE4 are typically nearly the same price, so if you have an itinerary that's more efficiently routed then you can use FJ.

https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world
Airlines for Oneworld Explorer (*DONE*)Airlines for Global Explorer (*GLOB*)The differences are
For full OW members pacific island destinations limited to QF and some airlines to HNL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel...tional_Airport. (may be other destinations?)
When AS fully completes the takeover of HA (into OW) will be more Pacific destination options.
When FJ becomes a full OW member will be more Pacific destination options.

Example QF from BNE (from AFF)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8d3051ecc7.gif

I’m about to complete my RTW trip ex-CAI, next month. I just realized that my final segment, DOH-CAI on Qatar Airways, doesn’t really work for my plans. However, since it’s part of a connecting ticket JRO-DOH-CAI, it’s a bit complicated. I contacted a Qatar Airways agent, and they confirmed that dropping the final segment is against policy.

Here’s my question:
1. Can a Qantas agent assist by canceling the last leg and reissuing the ticket without any fees, given that I’ve flown most of the RTW segments already?
2. If that’s not possible, would it work to simply not check in any baggage on the JRO-DOH leg and skip boarding the final DOH-CAI segment?



Thanks in advance for any guidance on this!

Additional information: I just checked Oneworld RTW rule, Egypt is included in Middle East continent region, therefore starting from CAI ending at DOH qualifies RTW ticket rule.

As you say, ending in doha instead of cairo meets xONEx rules and so in theory you can request a reroute for $125 adjusted for any change in taxes/surcharges

Your challenge is that a combination of incompetence and intransigence means qantas is often not playing the rules. Ie your issue isn't with oneworld or the xONEx rules but with what you can convince an erratic qantas yo do. Its hard to know but I think there is a thread dedicated to that.

Just turn it into a stopover if you wouldn't use the final segment for anything else (like DOH-AUH or DOH-DXB for example).

In theory you can end the ticket anywhere in the middle east, but depends on what your earlier itinerary was. If you ever had a stopover in DOH before, then QF can't do it. If you haven't then, you can at least make it a stopover now and just leave the last DOH-CAI segment unused.

If you won't have check in luggage, then you can just walk out of the airport in DOH and do as you wish, even on your existing ticket, but if you do have check in luggage, then QR will insist it is checked through, they don't short check. They may or may not give you difficulty about leaving DOH the same day on a different QR flight however. Best to use another airline to leave DOH if you go this route.

If all else fails I'd change it to xxx-DOH-AUH or DXB, they are cheaper and faster to get back to DOH from than CAI.

Thanks! Change it to a stopover sounds a great plan. I never had a stopover in Middle East in my trip, expect originating from CAI, so it should be workable and easier than cancelling the segment (I hope).

I don't think so. I think that the computer systems hold one frequent flyer number per itinerary, so you're left changing it at checkin or at the gate, segment by segment. I credit my AA flights to QRPC so that they're counted by mileage not revenue, and everything else to AA. For my RTW itineraries, I book them using the number I want to apply to the first flight, then change as I go along.


Why bother? If you modify, you are subject to a change fee and possible price increase. Why not just book it on the phone with an airline (I use the knowledgeable and friendly AA RTW desk) or a travel agent (but the T/A will charge a fee, of course)?


Two problems to watch out for. First, although they may tell you otherwise, few travel agents understand these tickets well enough to do them. And second, there will be a fee from travel agents.

The consensus on the CX board is that while you have FQTV, FQTS and FQTR, there's no passenger-accessible way to code them separately.

On CX a further theory is is to code whatever FQTV you need the status points and miles for, then flash status card at the lounge door.

The is correct, FQTV, FQTS and FQTR are available (including a couple of others [such as FQTU] ).

These can be coded differently for each segment, not just per booking.

While airline staff appear to have been told not to do so (or don't know how to), a competent TA can do it (and even advise on what FF may be most appropriate for each segment).

Major FUBAR w DONE4
 

I commenced a DONE4 on March 10 of this year. I am at home now since I work, and planned originally to resume Nov 17. I cannot make that flight and have only recently been approved for definite time to resume. Interestingly, it took the RTW desk agent about 10 minutes to learn the ticket validity period. The rules say "one year". As it turns out after her research, I can finish on March 10, 2025, But that's just an interesting aside. I've been following availability on Expert Flyer and I want to resume travel on Feb 16 with a change in itinerary. I had all my flights ready to spoon feed to the agent and all were checked right before I called (and right after, too!). My very first flight, MAD-DOH, QR 150, she says has no availability. EF shows D9. The seat map, FWIW, shows 1 occupied seat, 14 blocked seats, and 10 available seats. She says the other QR flight, 152 also not available. I did not ask her to check the MH and IB codeshares--I just didn't think of it, and of course they would be far less rewarding. IB also has it's own flight which I did not inquire about. She also says I cannot leave it unfinished. I am in a quandry and have no clue how to proceed. This is my 4th xONEx and EF has been my go-to. Has anyone else encountered problems? Maybe it just the glitch of the day? Are there other tools out there that don't require a PhD in travel? Any suggestions welcome. If it's of any help, my routing was NRT-USA-DUB-DOH-AGP-HEL-DOH-AKL-Australia-TYO. I have an award flight back to Europe that ends in MAD, and rather than make my way to AGP-HEL etc, I wanted to make AGP-MAD surface, drop HEL and fly MAD-DOH etc.

Nov 17 is close. Rather than change to route now suggest you push out the dates on the same route as booked.
That will give a few months to change the route to what you want/can find by Feb 16 2025.
Original route:- NRT-USA-DUB-DOH-AGP-HEL-DOH-AKL-Australia-TYO.
New route: NRT-USA-DUB-DOH-AGP, MAD-DOH-AKL-Australia-TYO.
Where are you now? What segments completed?
Date changes have (theoretically) no cost. Maybe a tax recalculation.
A route change is US$125 plus carrier surcharge/tax recalculation.

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OK, the news is good. I called back, new agent, all went through. What a relief. Sorry to worry anyone for nothing. HUACA.

You can leave it unfinished. What are they going to do about it? They can’t ADM you. Would be keen of the ticketing airline to take you to court. So I doubt there would be any issue regardless

When I called the first time I started with the itinerary change, making AGP-MAD a surface sector and dropping HEL. When the agent for some inexplicable reason couldn't see D availability MAD-DOH, I asked if she could restore original booking. She said until I completed the new routing nothing changes. We hung up with my original flights still in place. I would have taken Mwenenzi's advice but in the interim I'd called back to see if I could book a codeshare showing D on QR, or the IB flight. Fortunately, the new agent was able to book my desired changes. Otherwise, had I not been able to complete a new routing, I would have been a no show and I guess forfeited my remaining ticket. The good news is I got it done. The even better news is that Expert Flyer is still working!

Yes. You of course forfeit the ticket, but there’s no extra penalty.

There was another thread about non-completion:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...ion-rtw-2.html

Seemed many thought there could be consequences. Is this case different? I am trying to learn about these RTW tickets. Thanks.

Most of the thread is people saying no one has ever had a penalty as an individual?

From the OneWorld rule sheet on xONEx ticket (earlier in 2024) Item 16(a)2

c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125.

Have fun wandering
Fred

Hi,
I like to use the RTW planning tool for a quick quote on RTW fare, just need to enter the starting city.
But I cant seem to find the link now, it always push me to the manual planning page, has oneworld remove it auto tool?

Is this the link you're looking for?

https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/

Thanks for the response.
This is what I call the manual page, the auto page is where you first just input starting city, choose economy or business, then it will give you the base fare exclude surcharge.

The link should start with ra. something if I recall correctly

Have you tried putting in a starting city to starting city as first leg using the "manual tool", The tool has a new look from a couple years ago, but I don't recall the one you're talking about. But Expert Flyer will do that for sure.

I was referring to this link https://rtw-va.oneworld.com/
here's the photo I found online
I guess OW taken this page down
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b58d55998b.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e583aa9f11.jpg