Wasn't there a rule once (or maybe still) that codeshares are not OK as standalone flights? I.e., PHX-LAX on AA connecting to LAX-DOH on QR you can/could use an AA code on the QR flight, but originating in LAX, you could not book LAX-DOH as a standalone AA coded flight. Amy I remembering correctly, or am I on drugs?

In terms of xONEx tickets, AA rtw desk can book codeshares operated by Oneworld airlines as a standalone segment (ie, not connecting) if the segment is either departing or arriving into the US (might even be N America). This is a recent change, according to what I learned.. Last year, one was able to book standalone AA codeshares on QR/BA between Europe and Asia for example.

I was informed that this new restriction is limited to the AA desk, so if you are working with a travel agent YMMV. Also, they said it was dependent on the operating carrier, so it's entirely possible that certain Oneworld airlines would permit this. Obviously it all comes down to money.. typical.

I am not quite sure whether that's the case but i guess xONEx are generally permits to book on any codeshare flights when its marketed and operated by any oneworld carriers.

My itinerary looks like this now though I mostly booked on prime code, the SYD-HKG flight is booked on AY coded CX operated flight with a QF connection from AKL before it.
OSL-xDOH-AKL-xSYD-HKG-xSIN-HND-BKK-HND-xDFW-xJFK-LAX-DOH-DUB-xDOH-OSL

Forgot to check if there are AY/QR/JL codeshare on DFW-JFK-LAX but still got time so probably just check later.

Guess most people who booked with CX will naturally have a CX code and operated flight in the itinerary so didn't encounter the issue I have but still fine at least they don't require to have CX flights on any long/over water sectors like AA did.

I recently booked AA codeshare on LAX-DOH without me asking for it. Once I saw Qpoints earning for it I happily kept it as a standalone after having stopovers inserted, even though the price difference in fuel surcharges is unclear.

SO a super newb question here. My first flight is HND-JFK-EZE. THe forst flight is with JL. But the itinerary shows "AMERICAN AIRLINES OPERATED BY JAPAN AIRLINES"

Will this adversely impact me in some form, shape or manner.

No. Expect is AA flight number/marketed operated by JL. Will earn as an AA flight.

Awesome. Thanks.

OK, I book all of my xONEx tickets through the AA desk. I credit to QRPC, and earnings are better for the same QR metal flight if it's AA marketed. So then the question is, as a QRPC PLT in J, will I still get Al Safwa admission, or will using an AA flight number nix that?

What program are you crediting to? If AA. it will be price based not mileage based, although it varies at times.

I don't think AA codeshare on QR will change access.
I was traveling on AA coded DOH MIA as a non elite and no problem getting into AM The Garden.

That was my next question. I live in a city with a UA hub. So the RTW is going to be my major interaction with OW. I was focused on crediting this on AA, but now reading this thread sounds like QRPC is the way to go.

i am open to suggestions.

I've already achieved QRPC PLT with two years' duration. Since non-QR redemption flights are easier to obtain in AAdvantage, I'm now crediting AA coded flights to QRPC and everything else to AAdvantage.

Credit to AA but book JL, QR, AY when available instead of AA. They have the best cabin bonuses and miles andLPs earned are based on miles not spend.. I don't know how AA decides how many dollars are allowed to each segment and sometimes my AA segments went through as miles based. Go figure

There's a nice fit with crediting aa/ba/ib to ay and jl/qr/ay to aa. Not hard getting emerald via AY, especially as you can buy tier points using avios if a bit short, and a decent number of AA miles.

I am newb to this. So bear with me. Are you saying in the same RTW i can credit to two different FFPs ?

Also based on what you say should i insist that my JL flight be a JL FLight and not an "AMERICAN AIRLINES OPERATED BY JAPAN AIRLINES"

Individual flights of a RTW can credit to different FFP's. But getting different ffn's for each segment in the reservation and having them stick is another question. Some times changing ffn's stick and other times not. A boarding pass can have a ffn printed on it, but at times will still credit to another airline ffp/ffn. All very problematic - random. A good travel agent can help.

In oneworld flights earn to a ffp based on the marketing flight (flight number) with an eligible operating carrier.

CX gave me no pushback when I changed the ticketed points to DFW-DOH (AA code) + DOH-AGP (IB code). AA/IB had D inventory, while QR did not. It had initially been DFW-DOH-MAD on prime QR codes on a placeholder date.

Yep. It's non trivial and error prone but also possible.

Asking for all FFNs to be removed then the one you want to be added seems (in my limited experience) to help. Certainly you can have 2+ FFNs on a ticket which obviously increases risks it won't credit where you wanted. As noted, what's on the boarding pass isn't always where it will credit, though having the boarding pass show the FFN you want the flight to credit to seems smart if the effort to fix issues later seems worthwhile. Eg aadvantage customer care were willing to decredit an aa flight for me which should have gone to ay.

Good day all. It's been a while since I last did a OW RTW and wonder if those is the know can just advise if this DONE4 would be valid.

OSL-LHRx-PDL-LHR-JNB-DOHx-YYZ-HKG-HAN-NRT-TPE-NRT-DOHx-OSL - I'm aware I'm losing out on 3 segments but sadly there is nothing else in North America that I can do, other than maybe an open-jaw in Canada, without entering the USA.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

You could build in a land segment in Canada and buy a separate domestic Canada itinerary on AC or a local carrier.
Arrive in YYZ and fly out of yvr.

It’s not the perfect thread for it but my sabre quotes are auto-pricing as GLOBs not ONEs. If it doesn’t meet global rules it fails with now fare quote found.
anyone able to help out with a command to force XONEX pricing in sabre? Thank you!

May have a *ONE* error so getting the default GLOB fare/error message.
What is the ONE route?

It's happening on any route i try, i've never managed to price a ONE fare, it will only price GLOBs.
Even a simple NRT-SIN-SYD-LAX-JFK-NRT all on OW carriers will price as a glob. I'm very new to sabre, and am just using WPRW(YEN)AJL or whichever carrier.
I suspect there is a better command to use to try to force ONE pricing but am not certain.

If I create a route that satisfies ONE but not GLOB rules (i.e. too long) pricing just fails again.

Exactly the same as I get when trying to use the online tool

Ok, if I may ask the experienced minds here to check the itinerary for me, this is my target. It won't autoprice but I think it meets all the rules except it's 5 segments in asia (2 get two of three A/F flights that are offered)

HND-SIN-KUL-PKX(PEK)-HKG-PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-LAX-JFK(LGA)-DFW-LHR-DOH-NRT

I've put in brackets where we depart from a different airport but in the same city. Specific flights below
HND - TOKYO HANEDA
JAPAN AIRLINES, JL 37
SIN - SINGAPORE, SINGAPORE
MALAYSIA AIRLINES, MH 616
KUL - KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA
MALAYSIA AIRLINES, MH 318
PKX - BEIJING DAXING, CHINA
PEK - BEIJING, CHINA
CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS, CX 391
HKG - HONG KONG, HONG KONG S A R
CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS, CX 171
PER - PERTH, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 770
MEL - MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 622
BNE - BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 551
SYD - SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 11
LAX - LOS ANGELES, CA
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 4
JFK - NEW YORK JFK, NY
LGA - NEW YORK LGA, NY
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 1626
DFW - DALLAS FT WORTH, TX
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 80
LHR - LONDON HEATHROW, UNITED KINGDOM
QATAR AIRWAYS, QR 4
DOH - DOHA HAMAD INTL, QATAR
QATAR AIRWAYS, QR 806
NRT - TOKYO NARITA, JAPAN

Any thoughts welcome!

If you have 5 in Asia then it doesn't meet all the rules...
How is LGA a part of this? Oh you're connecting in DFW but it's not listed... This is kind of a mess

My understanding of the rules is that you can have more segments for additional cost as long as the total is fewer than 16. Also that different airports in the same city didn’t count as a surface sector.
are either of those incorrect?

Oh yeah, just a typo missing dfw.

Okay I think I see what you mean.
The per continent maximum is flight segments but land segments do count towards the 16.

Different airports in the same city count as land segments.

Are these all stopovers? If not, which are the connecting flights?

Ah ok; i thought different airports within same city didn’t count as surface sectors. Probably worth reworking it then. Can easily do JFK-DFW too
May just get rid of the Asia segments and do HND-SIN-PER.

thank you

HND-SIN-HKG
HKG-PER
PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-LAX-JFK
JFK-DFW-LHR
LHR-DOH-NRT

Hope that is clearer. Cities are grouped with transits <24 hours, each line has any stop of 24 hours or more.
Removed the extra flights so now it should meet all the rules without needing to worry about exceptions.
Thank you!

Personally I like this notation style:

HND-xSIN-HKG-PER-xMEL-xBNE-xSYD-xLAX-JFK-xDFW-LHR-xDOH-NRT

So lots of transits, Australia looks especially painful. Looks valid to me but with plenty you could tweak/add.

Only 12 segments. 2 in asia, one stopover, so you can add there if you want. Only 1 in "Europe" and NA so ditto. 3 in Australia so harder to add there. .

not sure what you're looking for and so if there's scope to improve but i believe this works too fwiw:

HND-xSIN-HKG-PER-xMEL-xBNE-xSYD-xLAX-JFK-xDFW-LHR-DOH-LHR-MAD-xHKG-BKK-NRT

... any of the transits can be made a stopover except in asia.

I'm going a little ouch at posting an itinerary that stops in LHR twice given what it does to taxes. Just indicative not a suggestion given we know little about personal goals or constraints.

Thanks! Mostly just happy to double check that it breaks no rules.
So I can add LHR-MAN-LHR safely?

that would be the only addition I’d really need.

In the past, weren't there two or three cities globally where different airports were considered co-terminus, so arriving at one and departing from the other didn't burn a segment? Yes, I know, I'm showing my age here . . . .

I believe this was the case but went away with the introduction of mandatory e-ticketing.

I had a paper ticketed DONE where the routing was ORD-LON-DBV being two of the (then) twenty segments which was was actually ORD-LHR,LGW-DBV. These days it may be considered three segments.

Can a RTW originating in OSL terminate in DOH ? OR if it has to stay in Europe, can it terminate in ZRH ?

Time you downloaded the rules from https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world
OW Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._01Apr2025.pdf
Global Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._01Apr2025.pdf
Circle Pacific https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._01Apr2025.pdf

OW 3015 rule 4

Great, I thought I was going mad. I knew it used to be a rule at some point!

Either way it's not a massive issue.
Thanks all.

There's another approach that I like better:

HND-sin-HKG-PER-mel-bne-syd-lax-JFK-dfw-LHR-doh-NRT

That is, stops in ALL CAPS and transits in lower case. Why? you ask.

The very first thing I do whenever anyone asks for help with an itinerary is to copy their routing and paste it into the GCM. With this format it's completely simple. Having to edit their string in whatever way, e.g., deleting x and o and whatever other faff they've put in, can be a PITA and sometimes it even dissuades me from commenting. I mean, you want to make it as easy as possible for people to help you, right?

So i finally made progress and got a DONE4 itinerary rated and ready to purchase with AA RTW desk.

It originates in OSL. Looking at the chart from Dec 2024 posted in this thread, the base fare for that should be $5095. But i was quoted a Base Fare of $5,469.00. Is there a way to check this information for accuracy ?

Also getting almost 1900 plus dollars is taxes and carrier imposed fees. I also see Other taxes and carrier imposed fees as $1,310.10 USD. Is there a way to get a breakdown on these ?

The online tool should give a full breakdown on each tax and fee. If it doesn't for some reason, then ask AA for a breakdown.