Feb 28, 2016, 11:18 am
Last edit by: serfty
Access Ready Reckoner:
* A "North American* Itinerary" for AAdvantage elites is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. A "North American* Itinerary" for Alaska Mileage Plan elites is travel to destinations in the U.S.A., Canada and Mexico (unless they are connecting to or from an international long-haul flight in a premium cabin on the same day).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
Qantas First Class Lounge for OneWorld Emeralds and First Class Travelers - opened late 2014
Qantas press release
Airside connector open from terminals 4, 5, 6 and 7 to TBIT - Feb 2016
LAX AA T-4 - TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 (AA forum)
2016 LAX Connecting / Connection / Connections thread
Updated 7 Mar 2017 - JDiver
For access just one of the following needs to be true:
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- Non US based (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- An AAdvantage or Mileage Plan of Sapphire or Emerald tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
- First & Business Class passengers traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers on an itinerary which includes First & Business Class travel on a oneworld marketed and operated flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from a domestic oneworld Marketed and Operated flight or an international short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight.
- *Recent Reports indicate the following access is being denied with Patrons being redirected to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: First and Business Class passengers traveling on an American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight between Los Angeles & New York on three class aircraft.
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
LAX oneworld Business and Qantas First Lounges
LAX / Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT)
LAX / Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT)
Location: Go airside via the North security check. Continue past the SkyTeam marked elevator / lift past the Star Alliance lounge signage and escalators to the main shops area and take the elevator to the oneworld Lounge on floor 5. (LAX / LAWA now allows passengers with same day departing boarding passes multi-terminal access.)
oneworld Los Angeles (Business) Lounge
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~400
AMENITIES:
Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~400
AMENITIES:
- Computer connected to Internet
- Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
- Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
- Barista and coffee selections
- Shower suites (16)
Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.
Qantas First Lounge
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~200
AMENITIES:
Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~200
AMENITIES:
- Computer connected to Internet
- Neil Perry restaurant (74 seats, a la carte dining)
- Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
- Barista with coffee selections
- Shower suites (7)
- Business suites (2 - can be combined for conference room)
- Shirt pressing (First)
Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
LAX TBIT oneworld lounges access rules: (v. Feb 25, 2016)
oneworld Business Lounge operated by Qantas
Please note this is not a Qantas Club and is not part of any recipripocity agreement with Admirals Clubs. Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
Qantas - oneworld First Lounge
Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
Link to one world lounge access rules and lounge locator
oneworld Business Lounge operated by Qantas
Please note this is not a Qantas Club and is not part of any recipripocity agreement with Admirals Clubs. Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
- Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
- Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
- Departing in First or Business on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T aircraft.
- A Qantas Club member (no AA Admirals Club reciprocity, however)
- "Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result."
Qantas - oneworld First Lounge
Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
- Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
- Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
- Departing in First on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T.
Link to one world lounge access rules and lounge locator
Qantas press release
Airside connector open from terminals 4, 5, 6 and 7 to TBIT - Feb 2016
LAX AA T-4 - TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 (AA forum)
2016 LAX Connecting / Connection / Connections thread
Updated 7 Mar 2017 - JDiver
LAX - TBIT oneworld Lounge Access (Combined thread)
Dec 5, 2015, 12:58 pm
#91
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dallas
Programs: AA LTPlat, Marriott LTTitanium, IHG Spire, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 44
About 11am this morning tried to gain access to the TBIT Qantas First Lounge as a BA Gold Guest List card holder on a AA domestic flight from LAX to ORD. Apologetically denied entry. Informed that to gain access the itinerary has to be connected to an incoming or outgoing international segment greater than 5 hours. Not in the argumentative mode today, but would like to see the "rules" posted on the Oneworld website so there is no confusion about access to this lounge.
Dec 5, 2015, 1:24 pm
#92
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: MSN
Programs: AA, BAEC Gold
Posts: 3,929
About 11am this morning tried to gain access to the TBIT Qantas First Lounge as a BA Gold Guest List card holder on a AA domestic flight from LAX to ORD. Apologetically denied entry. Informed that to gain access the itinerary has to be connected to an incoming or outgoing international segment greater than 5 hours. Not in the argumentative mode today, but would like to see the "rules" posted on the Oneworld website so there is no confusion about access to this lounge.
Dec 5, 2015, 4:26 pm
#93
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Hunter Valley, Australia
Programs: Qantas, American Airlines, Hyatt, Accor
Posts: 41
A post from Australian Business Traveller:
It seems like the problem still exists!!! BA Gold (oneworld Emerald) denied entry into the LAX first lounge yesterday. They stated I needed to be on a international flight or a domestic flight over 5hrs, very confused. Pointed out the oneworld rules but they didn't accept that response. I dont really understand why this is so hard for them. At least the cops weren't called on me.
Plus ca change.........
It seems like the problem still exists!!! BA Gold (oneworld Emerald) denied entry into the LAX first lounge yesterday. They stated I needed to be on a international flight or a domestic flight over 5hrs, very confused. Pointed out the oneworld rules but they didn't accept that response. I dont really understand why this is so hard for them. At least the cops weren't called on me.
Plus ca change.........
Dec 5, 2015, 7:42 pm
#94
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: AA EXP (owe), BA Silver (ows), AB Silver (owr), WN A+/CP, IHG Spire AMB, Avis First
Posts: 1,414
A post from Australian Business Traveller:
It seems like the problem still exists!!! BA Gold (oneworld Emerald) denied entry into the LAX first lounge yesterday. They stated I needed to be on a international flight or a domestic flight over 5hrs, very confused. Pointed out the oneworld rules but they didn't accept that response. I dont really understand why this is so hard for them. At least the cops weren't called on me.
Plus ca change.........
It seems like the problem still exists!!! BA Gold (oneworld Emerald) denied entry into the LAX first lounge yesterday. They stated I needed to be on a international flight or a domestic flight over 5hrs, very confused. Pointed out the oneworld rules but they didn't accept that response. I dont really understand why this is so hard for them. At least the cops weren't called on me.
Plus ca change.........
Maybe someone needs to print the oneworld rules and stick them to the wall next to the lounge... or AA (or QF) needs to stop pretending that they are part of oneworld
Dec 7, 2015, 5:53 pm
#95
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Cairns, AU
Programs: QF P1, UA 1K, AA Plat, VA Gold, HH Diamond, SPG Plat
Posts: 31
About 11am this morning tried to gain access to the TBIT Qantas First Lounge as a BA Gold Guest List card holder on a AA domestic flight from LAX to ORD. Apologetically denied entry. Informed that to gain access the itinerary has to be connected to an incoming or outgoing international segment greater than 5 hours. Not in the argumentative mode today, but would like to see the "rules" posted on the Oneworld website so there is no confusion about access to this lounge.
Also - would you mind PM'ing me so that I can follow this up for you?
Dec 7, 2015, 6:04 pm
#96
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: AA EXP (owe), BA Silver (ows), AB Silver (owr), WN A+/CP, IHG Spire AMB, Avis First
Posts: 1,414
I know you were asking boogen, but for me usually the AA# is on the BP but I show my AB OWS card. In my experience, upon seeing an AA BP they don't even bother to scan the ticket and just say no. (When they scan the ticket in their machine, a big OWE logo pops up on their screen, from what I've seen.) In the times that they've let me in based on AB status, they've happily punched in the # on my AB card.
Dec 8, 2015, 12:40 pm
#97
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dallas
Programs: AA LTPlat, Marriott LTTitanium, IHG Spire, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 44
Anticipating a problem with the AA number on my boarding pass, I had the BA number on it to no avail and I wanted the tier points anyway. Two strikeouts as the fight ended up credited to AA regardless.
Dec 19, 2015, 10:29 am
#99
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
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Hi,
I will be flying next month from LAX to LHR on AA. I am BA gold (OWE) and will be flying business class, on BA stock (operated by AA from T4, but flight was purchased as BA1509 with a 125 ticket number).
So my questions are the following :
- Will I get access to the first lounge ?
- My sister will be flying on the same flight as me, also on BA stock, but in economy. She should be granted entry too, as I am allowed to one guest right ?
- Will we have any issues crossing security in TBIT, if we show a ticket for a T4 flight ?
- How do we get out of TBIT afterwards ? I believe we cannot take the AA/QF shuttle nor use the connector yet ?
Thanks for your help !
I will be flying next month from LAX to LHR on AA. I am BA gold (OWE) and will be flying business class, on BA stock (operated by AA from T4, but flight was purchased as BA1509 with a 125 ticket number).
So my questions are the following :
- Will I get access to the first lounge ?
- My sister will be flying on the same flight as me, also on BA stock, but in economy. She should be granted entry too, as I am allowed to one guest right ?
- Will we have any issues crossing security in TBIT, if we show a ticket for a T4 flight ?
- How do we get out of TBIT afterwards ? I believe we cannot take the AA/QF shuttle nor use the connector yet ?
Thanks for your help !
Dec 19, 2015, 11:11 am
#100
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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I don't think you will be able to get into TBIT given that you will be flying from Terminal 4. And honestly, though I very much like the restaurant in the First Lounge, I'm not sure it would be worth all the hassle. AA has a decent Flagship Lounge that you will be able to use. Food won't be anything to compare, but the seating is more comfortable.
Dec 19, 2015, 2:25 pm
#101
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: MSN
Programs: AA, BAEC Gold
Posts: 3,929
Hi,
I will be flying next month from LAX to LHR on AA. I am BA gold (OWE) and will be flying business class, on BA stock (operated by AA from T4, but flight was purchased as BA1509 with a 125 ticket number).
So my questions are the following :
- Will I get access to the first lounge ?
- My sister will be flying on the same flight as me, also on BA stock, but in economy. She should be granted entry too, as I am allowed to one guest right ?
- Will we have any issues crossing security in TBIT, if we show a ticket for a T4 flight ?
- How do we get out of TBIT afterwards ? I believe we cannot take the AA/QF shuttle nor use the connector yet ?
Thanks for your help !
I will be flying next month from LAX to LHR on AA. I am BA gold (OWE) and will be flying business class, on BA stock (operated by AA from T4, but flight was purchased as BA1509 with a 125 ticket number).
So my questions are the following :
- Will I get access to the first lounge ?
- My sister will be flying on the same flight as me, also on BA stock, but in economy. She should be granted entry too, as I am allowed to one guest right ?
- Will we have any issues crossing security in TBIT, if we show a ticket for a T4 flight ?
- How do we get out of TBIT afterwards ? I believe we cannot take the AA/QF shuttle nor use the connector yet ?
Thanks for your help !
Dec 19, 2015, 5:27 pm
#102
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QF Gold LTG (ow Saph), HHon Silver, Marriot Gold
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You shouldn't have any issues getting into TBIT, if asked just say you're going in for the better shopping (not much in T4).
To exit basically same way as you came in at TBIT, there is a path along the wall next to the security lines.
Then exit the front of TBIT turn right, and into T4.
Downside is having to go through security twice.
Under the rules you and sister should get access to the FL (I would even say the same if you were on a domestic AA flight). Whether it is worth the effort however is another matter.
To exit basically same way as you came in at TBIT, there is a path along the wall next to the security lines.
Then exit the front of TBIT turn right, and into T4.
Downside is having to go through security twice.
Under the rules you and sister should get access to the FL (I would even say the same if you were on a domestic AA flight). Whether it is worth the effort however is another matter.
Dec 19, 2015, 6:41 pm
#103
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Location: Houston, TX, USA
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I highly suspect that there's more going on than just a matter of how to interpret the rules. There's almost certainly some other issue, probably involving payment (or lack thereof) to QF for use of the lounge by AA domestic passengers. Either QF doesn't want to provide access gratis when they should as per whatever the internal oneworld rules are, or AA doesn't want to pay for its domestic passengers to access the QF/oneworld lounge.
Dec 20, 2015, 4:26 am
#104
Join Date: Jan 2012
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You shouldn't have any issues getting into TBIT, if asked just say you're going in for the better shopping (not much in T4).
To exit basically same way as you came in at TBIT, there is a path along the wall next to the security lines.
Then exit the front of TBIT turn right, and into T4.
Downside is having to go through security twice.
Under the rules you and sister should get access to the FL (I would even say the same if you were on a domestic AA flight). Whether it is worth the effort however is another matter.
To exit basically same way as you came in at TBIT, there is a path along the wall next to the security lines.
Then exit the front of TBIT turn right, and into T4.
Downside is having to go through security twice.
Under the rules you and sister should get access to the FL (I would even say the same if you were on a domestic AA flight). Whether it is worth the effort however is another matter.
We will see how long before we will be arriving at the airport. If we have enough time and security is not too crowded at TBIT, we will have a look at the OWF lounge, otherwise AAFL will be good enough. My sister does not travel a lot and does not know much about lounges etc... I think that one is a nice one to see before a 10 hour flight in Y !
Dec 20, 2015, 4:34 am
#105
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moa999 is correct - Since May last year, all one needs to go airside a LAX terminal is a same day boarding pass for a flight departing any terminal. (Other anecdotes I have come across indicate this is available at other airports including ORD and JFK.)