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Old Feb 28, 2016, 11:18 am
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Access Ready Reckoner:

For access just one of the following needs to be true:
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  1. Non US based (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
  2. An AAdvantage or Mileage Plan of Sapphire or Emerald tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
  3. First & Business Class passengers traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
  4. Passengers on an itinerary which includes First & Business Class travel on a oneworld marketed and operated flight longer than five hours connecting to/from a domestic oneworld Marketed and Operated flight or an international short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight.
  5. *Recent Reports indicate the following access is being denied with Patrons being redirected to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: First and Business Class passengers traveling on an American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight between Los Angeles & New York on three class aircraft.
* A "North American* Itinerary" for AAdvantage elites is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. A "North American* Itinerary" for Alaska Mileage Plan elites is travel to destinations in the U.S.A., Canada and Mexico (unless they are connecting to or from an international long-haul flight in a premium cabin on the same day).
Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
LAX oneworld Business and Qantas First Lounges
LAX / Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT)
Location: Go airside via the North security check. Continue past the SkyTeam marked elevator / lift past the Star Alliance lounge signage and escalators to the main shops area and take the elevator to the oneworld Lounge on floor 5. (LAX / LAWA now allows passengers with same day departing boarding passes multi-terminal access.)

oneworld Los Angeles (Business) Lounge

Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30

Capacity: ~400

AMENITIES:
  • Computer connected to Internet
  • Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
  • Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
  • Barista and coffee selections
  • Shower suites (16)


Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.
Qantas First Lounge

Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30

Capacity: ~200

AMENITIES:
  • Computer connected to Internet
  • Neil Perry restaurant (74 seats, a la carte dining)
  • Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
  • Barista with coffee selections
  • Shower suites (7)
  • Business suites (2 - can be combined for conference room)
  • Shirt pressing (First)


Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
LAX TBIT oneworld lounges access rules: (v. Feb 25, 2016)

oneworld Business Lounge operated by Qantas

Please note this is not a Qantas Club and is not part of any recipripocity agreement with Admirals Clubs. Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
  • Departing on a longhaul international flight, or

  • Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or

  • Departing in First or Business on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T aircraft.

  • A Qantas Club member (no AA Admirals Club reciprocity, however)

  • "Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result."


Qantas - oneworld First Lounge

Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
  • Departing on a longhaul international flight, or

  • Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or

  • Departing in First on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T.








Link to one world lounge access rules and lounge locator
Qantas First Class Lounge for OneWorld Emeralds and First Class Travelers - opened late 2014

Qantas press release

Airside connector open from terminals 4, 5, 6 and 7 to TBIT - Feb 2016

LAX AA T-4 - TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 (AA forum)

2016 LAX Connecting / Connection / Connections thread

Updated 7 Mar 2017 - JDiver







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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by IceTrojan
If you weren't in F/J on LAX-JFK, you wouldn't be allowed access either way (single or separate records) because it's not a same-day int'l flight.

I've done a same-day, separate itinerary trip before and was granted access based on status and same-day int'l leg.
Oh then I guess they made a slight exception once for me on LAX-DFW-PEK where the DFW-PEK leg wasn't until 10 am the next morning and the LAX leg was at 1 am. (I was there at 10 pm the previous day). But YMMV. This was for Qantas First.
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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 7:04 am
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Okay, will following itinerary grant me access to QF F lounge @ LAX?

Same day connections:

NRT-DFW-LAX-JFK (all in F class with AA and am EXP)
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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by brahms77
Okay, will following itinerary grant me access to QF F lounge @ LAX?

Same day connections:

NRT-DFW-LAX-JFK (all in F class with AA and am EXP)
Yes, it will (departing in three class F LAX-JFK alone would admit you.)

Please reference the wikipost at the top of the page
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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 11:33 am
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What is the start time for lunch?
Service begins for lunch at noon.
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Does a OW Sapphire flying on Fiji Airways have access?

Okay I THINK this is a rhetorical question but just checking to save myself some embarrassment -- if I'm flying on FJ in business class and am a OW Sapphire - do I get access to the Qantas Business Lounge?

Thanks ^
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by matinicus rock
Okay I THINK this is a rhetorical question but just checking to save myself some embarrassment -- if I'm flying on FJ in business class and am a OW Sapphire - do I get access to the Qantas Business Lounge?

Thanks ^
No.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by matinicus rock
Okay I THINK this is a rhetorical question but just checking to save myself some embarrassment -- if I'm flying on FJ in business class and am a OW Sapphire - do I get access to the Qantas Business Lounge?

Thanks ^
No but you will have access to the international lounge.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 1:32 am
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Originally Posted by matinicus rock
Okay I THINK this is a rhetorical question but just checking to save myself some embarrassment -- if I'm flying on FJ in business class and am a OW Sapphire - do I get access to the Qantas Business Lounge?
No. FJ is not a member of oneworld so your Sapphire status counts for nought.

By Class of Service, you will get access to FJs LAX lounge.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/fiji-airways...s-class-lounge

(If you were QF Gold flying on a QF codeshare you would get access, but not no a FJ ticket)
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 5:02 pm
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Will an AA EXP have access to the QF F lounge by virtue of status if flying HKG-LAX on CX W connecting to LAX-ORD in AA Y?

Branching off, would a PLT have access to the QF J lounge in this itinerary?
What if they were separate tickets, or the LAX-ORD departed past 12 midnight? Would admissibility change because of that?

I would not worry about this if it were HKG but given the very inflexible staff I've heard about this lounge...appreciate any advice!
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
Will an AA EXP have access to the QF F lounge by virtue of status if flying HKG-LAX on CX W connecting to LAX-ORD in AA Y?

Branching off, would a PLT have access to the QF J lounge in this itinerary?
What if they were separate tickets, or the LAX-ORD departed past 12 midnight? Would admissibility change because of that?

I would not worry about this if it were HKG but given the very inflexible staff I've heard about this lounge...appreciate any advice!
No issues in either case.. Although the EXP could also guest the PLT to the QF F Lounge while they were there..
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 10:21 pm
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Arrival rules = Departing rules?

Will be on an inbound international itinerary all on the same day:

One OWE (via American Airlines EXP), the other non-OWE
Leg 1: MAD-DFW in J (waitlisted for F)
Leg 2: DFW-LAX in F

Would we have access in LAX at the Qantas F by virtue of the international leg even if we would be arriving instead of departing?
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 10:27 pm
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Originally Posted by ArrVea
Will be on an inbound international itinerary all on the same day:

One OWE (via American Airlines EXP), the other non-OWE
Leg 1: MAD-DFW in J (waitlisted for F)
Leg 2: DFW-LAX in F

Would we have access in LAX at the Qantas F by virtue of the international leg even if we would be arriving instead of departing?
There is no arrivals access. Even if you were connecting LAX-SFO for example you would not have access, you would have needed to be connecting directly from a longhaul F flight.
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 1:28 am
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Originally Posted by nux
There is no arrivals access. Even if you were connecting LAX-SFO for example you would not have access, you would have needed to be connecting directly from a longhaul F flight.
I don't think the last sentence is true.

First of all, I think you're referring to a CoS based requirement.
First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
The op is an OWE, and therefore exempt from that requirement:

Members of oneworld airline frequent flyer programmes with the equivalent of oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier status can use lounges offered by oneworld airlines when departing on any flight marketed and operated by any oneworld member airline, regardless of cabin class being flown (exceptions are noted below).

Emerald tier frequent flyers can use First Class, Business Class or frequent flyer lounges.
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except that he is an AA exp and therefore restricted by:

American Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. For more information, visit,
Nonetheless, there is no arrivals access of any kind at LAX... so op is out of luck here. But if he were connecting MAD-DFW-LAX-SFO, he would have access at LAX as a OWE.
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 2:05 am
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Originally Posted by no2chem
I don't think the last sentence is true.

First of all, I think you're referring to a CoS based requirement.


The op is an OWE, and therefore exempt from that requirement:



except that he is an AA exp and therefore restricted by:



Nonetheless, there is no arrivals access of any kind at LAX... so op is out of luck here. But if he were connecting MAD-DFW-LAX-SFO, he would have access at LAX as a OWE.
Sorry you are correct, I had missed the OWE part.
I had written my post on the basis of having no status which I think is true if that were the case.
Your post is correct for an AA OWE.
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Old Apr 24, 2016 | 1:10 pm
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I'll be flying PHX to LAX to SYD and back in a couple weeks in F. I'm OW Emerald. I know on the way out I can access either the QF First Lounge or the AA Flagship lounge. On the way back will I have access to both or just the AA Flagship lounge in LAX?
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