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Old Feb 28, 2016, 11:18 am
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Access Ready Reckoner:

For access just one of the following needs to be true:
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  1. Non US based (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
  2. An AAdvantage or Mileage Plan of Sapphire or Emerald tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
  3. First & Business Class passengers traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
  4. Passengers on an itinerary which includes First & Business Class travel on a oneworld marketed and operated flight longer than five hours connecting to/from a domestic oneworld Marketed and Operated flight or an international short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight.
  5. *Recent Reports indicate the following access is being denied with Patrons being redirected to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: First and Business Class passengers traveling on an American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight between Los Angeles & New York on three class aircraft.
* A "North American* Itinerary" for AAdvantage elites is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. A "North American* Itinerary" for Alaska Mileage Plan elites is travel to destinations in the U.S.A., Canada and Mexico (unless they are connecting to or from an international long-haul flight in a premium cabin on the same day).
Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
LAX oneworld Business and Qantas First Lounges
LAX / Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT)
Location: Go airside via the North security check. Continue past the SkyTeam marked elevator / lift past the Star Alliance lounge signage and escalators to the main shops area and take the elevator to the oneworld Lounge on floor 5. (LAX / LAWA now allows passengers with same day departing boarding passes multi-terminal access.)

oneworld Los Angeles (Business) Lounge

Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30

Capacity: ~400

AMENITIES:
  • Computer connected to Internet
  • Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
  • Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
  • Barista and coffee selections
  • Shower suites (16)


Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.
Qantas First Lounge

Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30

Capacity: ~200

AMENITIES:
  • Computer connected to Internet
  • Neil Perry restaurant (74 seats, a la carte dining)
  • Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
  • Barista with coffee selections
  • Shower suites (7)
  • Business suites (2 - can be combined for conference room)
  • Shirt pressing (First)


Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
LAX TBIT oneworld lounges access rules: (v. Feb 25, 2016)

oneworld Business Lounge operated by Qantas

Please note this is not a Qantas Club and is not part of any recipripocity agreement with Admirals Clubs. Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
  • Departing on a longhaul international flight, or

  • Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or

  • Departing in First or Business on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T aircraft.

  • A Qantas Club member (no AA Admirals Club reciprocity, however)

  • "Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result."


Qantas - oneworld First Lounge

Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
  • Departing on a longhaul international flight, or

  • Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or

  • Departing in First on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T.








Link to one world lounge access rules and lounge locator
Qantas First Class Lounge for OneWorld Emeralds and First Class Travelers - opened late 2014

Qantas press release

Airside connector open from terminals 4, 5, 6 and 7 to TBIT - Feb 2016

LAX AA T-4 - TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 (AA forum)

2016 LAX Connecting / Connection / Connections thread

Updated 7 Mar 2017 - JDiver







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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by carsnoceans
...It does now allow access to F lounge for Emerald status pax?
There is no access for AAdvantage Emerald PAX (EXP) on solely "domestic/(most) North American" itineraries.

There is access for Emerald of ANY OTHER *O program before a flight marketed (flight number) by a *O carrier and operated (metal) by a *O carrier.
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Originally Posted by carsnoceans
Does Qantas Lounge permit entrance for arrivals of long haul flights?

EXP traveling GRU-LAX on AA (J). Got a connection to ORD from there.

It would have been nice to see Qantas Lounge. Otherwise FL aint that bad for killing 2-3hrs.
Originally Posted by carsnoceans
Yep, flying out on AA.

Just got wondering because I read information about departure should be premium cabin on OW. Nothing mentioned about OW Emeralds on arriving flights.

Thanks for the help. I'll give it a try.
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Yes to the business class lounge (no for first class lounge). Access is from the following oneworld rule (as opposed to being due to your status).



oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access
Originally Posted by carsnoceans
Thank you Kiwi Flyer. I had a change in plans and couldn't visit the lounge.

But to clarify - the Qantas lounge is only based on ticket class of travel on international journey. It does now allow access to F lounge for Emerald status pax?
Yes, even as an EXP, you would have had access to the QF First Lounge when connecting from an International OW flight to another OW flight on the same day.. It's not so much an "Arrivals" access, but a "Connections" access .
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As a data point, I accessed the F lounge on two consecutive days as a BA gold on a domestic AA itinerary. First time the lounge attendant asked for my BA gold card and let me in with no problem. On the second day, I was given the erroneous information that is in the wiki here, i.e. I need to be travelling on a l/h itinerary. I said those are the rules for access by class of service and not for access by status, and pointed out I'd been let in the day before. I was let in after that.
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Anyone had luck accessing the business lounge as a Sapphire on a domestic itinerary recently? Tried to enter using my airberlin Gold card today, and was denied due to not being on an international itinerary (was flying AA LAX-SFO).

I had the Oneworld lounge access rules on hand to show I was eligible, but he said that the operating airline pays for lounge access, and American didn't want to pay for domestic flyers.
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Originally Posted by DrSbaitso
Anyone had luck accessing the business lounge as a Sapphire on a domestic itinerary recently? Tried to enter using my airberlin Gold card today, and was denied due to not being on an international itinerary (was flying AA LAX-SFO).

I had the Oneworld lounge access rules on hand to show I was eligible, but he said that the operating airline pays for lounge access, and American didn't want to pay for domestic flyers.
It does not matter whether AA want to pay for access or not.

Under the current access rules, the guy was wrong - you should have had access.

It is only AAdvantage elites who do not get status based access and that is only when on solely "North American (as defined)" itineraries.

Any non AAdvantage sapphire/emerald should get access before any oneworld marketed and operated flight.
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Old May 2, 2016 | 1:07 am
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So theoretically if I qualified for BA Gold (non-AA OW Emerald status), I could visit the Qantas First LAX lounge every time I flew from LAX on a domestic AA flight?
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Originally Posted by Cheynewalk
So theoretically if I qualified for BA Gold (non-AA OW Emerald status), I could visit the Qantas First LAX lounge every time I flew from LAX on a domestic AA flight?
yes! (As long as it had a *O flight number).

For a non AAdvantage *O Emerald you simply need to be flying out of LAX on the same day on a *O operated and marketed flight.
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Originally Posted by Cheynewalk
So theoretically if I qualified for BA Gold (non-AA OW Emerald status), I could visit the Qantas First LAX lounge every time I flew from LAX on a domestic AA flight?
Things seem to have improved since many of us were turned away last year but you may still have to argue with them. As mentioned above, the unwillingness of your operating carrier to pay the bill should not be your problem.
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Things seem to have improved since many of us were turned away last year but you may still have to argue with them. As mentioned above, the unwillingness of your operating carrier to pay the bill should not be your problem.
Thanks to you both for your responses. Sorry, I am a little unfamiliar with the One World terminology - do all AA-marketed and AA-operated domestic AA flights by definition have "*O" flight numbers because AA is a OW member? Or is there a subset of AA domestic flights that are considered to have "*O" numbers, and if so, where would one look to see if it had such a "*O" number?
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Originally Posted by Cheynewalk
Thanks to you both for your responses. Sorry, I am a little unfamiliar with the One World terminology - do all AA-marketed and AA-operated domestic AA flights by definition have "*O" flight numbers because AA is a OW member? Or is there a subset of AA domestic flights that are considered to have "*O" numbers, and if so, where would one look to see if it had such a "*O" number?
All AA operated flights are considered OW flights, as are all other flights on OW operated carriers. There are some AA marketed, but not OW operated flights that do not qualify, but all AA marketed (and operated) US internal flights do..
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There are a few codeshares to be wary of.

Typically, out of LAX there is the AS relationship. Neither AS*AA nor AA*AS qualify for lounge access at TBIT.

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Originally Posted by serfty
There are a few codeshares to be wary of.

Typically, out of LAX there is the AS relationship. Neither AS*AA nor AA*AS qualify for lounge access at TBIT.
Ah, I see. Thanks very much to both of you.
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Originally Posted by DrSbaitso
Anyone had luck accessing the business lounge as a Sapphire on a domestic itinerary recently? Tried to enter using my airberlin Gold card today, and was denied due to not being on an international itinerary (was flying AA LAX-SFO).

I had the Oneworld lounge access rules on hand to show I was eligible, but he said that the operating airline pays for lounge access, and American didn't want to pay for domestic flyers.
I've entered as an AB gold last week flying domestically. I havent had a problem in a while, but maybe thats because I've complained many times and the staff probably recognize me by now.

Just be stern, point out the ow rules and escalate if they're wrongly denying access.
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We got in as BA EMDs flying from LAX to HNL. The agent was a bit confused first as he thought that we were seeking access as AA F pax. We explained that we wanted to get in on the basis of our BA Gold cards and upon production of those cards we were invited in.
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Old May 14, 2016 | 1:56 pm
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My wife and I will be traveling JFK-LAX-SYD and SYD-LAX-JFK, all on AA metal.

We are both EXP. We applied SWU but they are waitlisted, and we are currently in Y.

I wanted to confirm we should be eligible for Qantas First Lounge access both on the outgoing and inbound as long as we keep all of our boarding passes (assuming we are in economy for all legs)? Thank you in advance... normally I wouldn't ask but just given all the rejection that has happened at this lounge I feel I need to confirm.
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