AONE4 from Khartoum
Oct 30, 2012, 6:32 am
#391
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Stuck on this planet - mainly in STR and LAX
Posts: 5,019
One potential problem to watch out for with open dated tickets from my expereince:
If you have an open dated coupon A to B and oneworld airlines stop flying A to B you need to reroute (and pay the fee for this).
Same if you have a coupon with a date, want to change and no airline is flying that sector (any more)
If you have a dated coupon and because of a schedule change nobody is flying any more you are protected.
If you have an open dated coupon A to B and oneworld airlines stop flying A to B you need to reroute (and pay the fee for this).
Same if you have a coupon with a date, want to change and no airline is flying that sector (any more)
If you have a dated coupon and because of a schedule change nobody is flying any more you are protected.
Oct 30, 2012, 9:10 am
#392
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,639
I'm surprised at the 'no charge for date changes' comments - I haven't flown xONEx for several years but before that was active for a decade or so, over which period the airlines (all?) went from smiling at the valued first-class passenger - all but having full bar service at the check-in counter - to considering us as leeches. Never a charge for a date change, but they all seemed to want around USD150 as a "standing in front of my counter" charge. At least once AA refused to sticker a paper coupon for a simple date change and charged for a 'ticket reissue' fee.
Oct 30, 2012, 9:50 am
#393
Moderator, OneWorld
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
Posts: 11,802
I'm surprised at the 'no charge for date changes' comments - I haven't flown xONEx for several years but before that was active for a decade or so, over which period the airlines (all?) went from smiling at the valued first-class passenger - all but having full bar service at the check-in counter - to considering us as leeches. Never a charge for a date change, but they all seemed to want around USD150 as a "standing in front of my counter" charge. At least once AA refused to sticker a paper coupon for a simple date change and charged for a 'ticket reissue' fee.
The rules were amended a couple of years ago to include a line about "service charges" being at the discretion of the airlines. Fuel > flame, especially with certain members that have Union Jacks and/or kangaroos in their livery. Getting nickeled and dimed on premium RTW tickets costing thousands of dollars/pounds really sucks, but if one has the mind set of airline accountants, we're soft targets. Who're you gonna complain to?
Oct 30, 2012, 7:31 pm
#394
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,467
The rules were amended a couple of years ago to include a line about "service charges" being at the discretion of the airlines. Fuel > flame, especially with certain members that have Union Jacks and/or kangaroos in their livery. Getting nickeled and dimed on premium RTW tickets costing thousands of dollars/pounds really sucks, but if one has the mind set of airline accountants, we're soft targets. Who're you gonna complain to?
- no service charges
Oct 30, 2012, 9:35 pm
#395
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: AS MVP Gold, BA Silver, AA Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,619
I'm missing something here, as I'm not immediately recalling the stars on AA's current livery. [Are you perhaps thinking about USAirways, with the stars and stripes tail?] If you're talking about LAN, then I have to sharply disagree regarding this ticketing recommendation.
Oct 30, 2012, 11:12 pm
#396
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,467
I'm missing something here, as I'm not immediately recalling the stars on AA's current livery. [Are you perhaps thinking about USAirways, with the stars and stripes tail?] If you're talking about LAN, then I have to sharply disagree regarding this ticketing recommendation.
assuming evey American business, of whatever nature, displays the stars & stripes somewhere
Oct 31, 2012, 10:24 am
#397
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 6,424
not to be confused with The Bangles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bangles
Nov 1, 2012, 8:59 am
#398
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,467
Is the party coming to an end?
Been a bit obsessive about the ex-KRT prices lately, and just did my regular check of the DONE4 price using KVS
I inadvertently left the airline as QF (from some earlier query)
Gulp: DONE4 showing as SDG44,123 (up from SDG14,700)
Checked all eleven OW airlines
QF, S7 and CX showing SDG44,123
All the others showing SDG14,700 still
Anyone else seeing this?
Does it mean the party is coming to an end?
I inadvertently left the airline as QF (from some earlier query)
Gulp: DONE4 showing as SDG44,123 (up from SDG14,700)
Checked all eleven OW airlines
QF, S7 and CX showing SDG44,123
All the others showing SDG14,700 still
Anyone else seeing this?
Does it mean the party is coming to an end?
Nov 1, 2012, 10:45 am
#399
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,639
Been a bit obsessive about the ex-KRT prices lately, and just did my regular check of the DONE4 price using KVS
I inadvertently left the airline as QF (from some earlier query)
Gulp: DONE4 showing as SDG44,123 (up from SDG14,700)
Checked all eleven OW airlines
QF, S7 and CX showing SDG44,123
All the others showing SDG14,700 still
Anyone else seeing this?
Does it mean the party is coming to an end?
I inadvertently left the airline as QF (from some earlier query)
Gulp: DONE4 showing as SDG44,123 (up from SDG14,700)
Checked all eleven OW airlines
QF, S7 and CX showing SDG44,123
All the others showing SDG14,700 still
Anyone else seeing this?
Does it mean the party is coming to an end?
Nov 1, 2012, 4:41 pm
#400
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 323
Been a bit obsessive about the ex-KRT prices lately, and just did my regular check of the DONE4 price using KVS
I inadvertently left the airline as QF (from some earlier query)
Gulp: DONE4 showing as SDG44,123 (up from SDG14,700)
Checked all eleven OW airlines
QF, S7 and CX showing SDG44,123
All the others showing SDG14,700 still
Anyone else seeing this?
Does it mean the party is coming to an end?
I inadvertently left the airline as QF (from some earlier query)
Gulp: DONE4 showing as SDG44,123 (up from SDG14,700)
Checked all eleven OW airlines
QF, S7 and CX showing SDG44,123
All the others showing SDG14,700 still
Anyone else seeing this?
Does it mean the party is coming to an end?
Nov 1, 2012, 8:17 pm
#401
Join Date: May 2007
Location: YOW
Posts: 2,351
Nov 1, 2012, 9:50 pm
#402
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
One potential problem to watch out for with open dated tickets from my expereince:
If you have an open dated coupon A to B and oneworld airlines stop flying A to B you need to reroute (and pay the fee for this).
Same if you have a coupon with a date, want to change and no airline is flying that sector (any more)
If you have a dated coupon and because of a schedule change nobody is flying any more you are protected.
If you have an open dated coupon A to B and oneworld airlines stop flying A to B you need to reroute (and pay the fee for this).
Same if you have a coupon with a date, want to change and no airline is flying that sector (any more)
If you have a dated coupon and because of a schedule change nobody is flying any more you are protected.
I'm surprised at the 'no charge for date changes' comments - I haven't flown xONEx for several years but before that was active for a decade or so, over which period the airlines (all?) went from smiling at the valued first-class passenger - all but having full bar service at the check-in counter - to considering us as leeches. Never a charge for a date change, but they all seemed to want around USD150 as a "standing in front of my counter" charge. At least once AA refused to sticker a paper coupon for a simple date change and charged for a 'ticket reissue' fee.
Been a bit obsessive about the ex-KRT prices lately, and just did my regular check of the DONE4 price using KVS
I inadvertently left the airline as QF (from some earlier query)
Gulp: DONE4 showing as SDG44,123 (up from SDG14,700)
Checked all eleven OW airlines
QF, S7 and CX showing SDG44,123
All the others showing SDG14,700 still
Anyone else seeing this?
Does it mean the party is coming to an end?
I inadvertently left the airline as QF (from some earlier query)
Gulp: DONE4 showing as SDG44,123 (up from SDG14,700)
Checked all eleven OW airlines
QF, S7 and CX showing SDG44,123
All the others showing SDG14,700 still
Anyone else seeing this?
Does it mean the party is coming to an end?
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Information Search:
Departing KRT on 11/01/12 for KRT
Flying AA
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results
Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
DONE3 AA D Round-Trip 2877.00 (USD) B 10 / 12M
DGLOB34 AA D Round-Trip 3330.00 (USD) B 10 / 12M
DONE4 AA D Round-Trip 3330.00 (USD) B 10 / 12M
DONE5 AA D Round-Trip 3918.00 (USD) B 10 / 12M
AONE3 AA A Round-Trip 4032.00 (USD) F 10 / 12M
DONE6 AA D Round-Trip 4439.00 (USD) B 10 / 12M
AGLOB34 AA A Round-Trip 4621.00 (USD) F 10 / 12M
AONE4 AA A Round-Trip 4621.00 (USD) F 10 / 12M
AONE5 AA A Round-Trip 5413.00 (USD) F 10 / 12M
AONE6 AA A Round-Trip 6002.00 (USD) F 10 / 12M
Nov 1, 2012, 11:07 pm
#403
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,639
Those AA charges always came at the hands of LAX or ONT airport staff, so perhaps it was a locality thing. One time out of ANC (where I believe AS handled them) I got away with a voluntary reroute for free.
I do hope your optimism re KRT pricing has merit, but I do believe the cheap ride is over.
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Nov 1, 2012, 11:16 pm
#404
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 323
Just an FYI...
I had an ex-KRT itinerary setup and priced in CAD (~$4.5k), which was confirmed by a Canadian travel agent, however when they went to ticket it the following morning the price had gone up to ~$12.5k. The TA called AA, who said that they were no longer honoring those prices and that there would be no exceptions.
So if anybody manages to secure a RTW ex-KRT going forward, post here!
I had an ex-KRT itinerary setup and priced in CAD (~$4.5k), which was confirmed by a Canadian travel agent, however when they went to ticket it the following morning the price had gone up to ~$12.5k. The TA called AA, who said that they were no longer honoring those prices and that there would be no exceptions.
So if anybody manages to secure a RTW ex-KRT going forward, post here!
Nov 1, 2012, 11:26 pm
#405
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
I flew one end-on-end after another for ten years ending about 5 years ago (with a nice SQ 77W biz-class return (originating SGN) home, since despite having AA exec plat that year I couldn't find a way to do it cheaper) and came to expect that anything I did with my AA-issued ticket would cost me $150.
Last edited by anabolism; Nov 1, 2012 at 11:54 pm