Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
May 2, 2023, 10:04 am
Join Date: Apr 2012
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May 2, 2023, 10:50 am
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Despite the many doomsday predictions over the years each time a trick seemed to have "disappeared", I have almost never in last 15 years seen so many safe fuel dumps and award tricks available simultaneously.
3X, 2.5X, "Codeshare Confusion", Boomerangs, Quasi Boomerangs, OJ, DOJ, Double Deckers.
3X, 2.5X, "Codeshare Confusion", Boomerangs, Quasi Boomerangs, OJ, DOJ, Double Deckers.
May 2, 2023, 10:52 am
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: QF LTG
Posts: 1,200
Despite the many doomsday predictions over the years each time a trick seemed to have "disappeared", I have almost never in last 15 years seen so many safe fuel dumps and award tricks available simultaneously.
3X, 2.5X, "Codeshare Confusion", Boomerangs, Quasi Boomerangs, OJ, DOJ, Double Deckers.
3X, 2.5X, "Codeshare Confusion", Boomerangs, Quasi Boomerangs, OJ, DOJ, Double Deckers.
May 6, 2023, 10:37 pm
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: BOS
Programs: AA PP, DL PM
Posts: 2,086
, but I haven't found any fares that are really dumpable.One related thing I have found: there is a bit of an odd AF/KL simple economy roundtrip self-dump right now from a few cities in C1 to a specific city in C2. It only seems to show up for certain fare classes (you can use the advanced tools in ITA Matrix to specify the fare or fare class), so I suppose that means the airline fuel surcharge tables are made up of something like (origin, destination, fare class, price) tuples. I did not know it could be more granular than class of service. Is there any way to see an example of the fare tables?
May 7, 2023, 3:46 am
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 412
I would not be so excited. Strikes are (very) expensive, you have to fly it - e.g. route A-B, first, flying to A, then getting out of B, and it is very inconvenient and definitely not worth any dumped flight. Of course, everything depends on your location, preferences, etc., but the general statement that it is not worth the effort, money, and time is true.
May 7, 2023, 10:26 am
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Posts: 2,086
I would not be so excited. Strikes are (very) expensive, you have to fly it - e.g. route A-B, first, flying to A, then getting out of B, and it is very inconvenient and definitely not worth any dumped flight. Of course, everything depends on your location, preferences, etc., but the general statement that it is not worth the effort, money, and time is true.
Being rebooked in IROPS was scary though.I haven't done a 1X but if it's somewhere that I want to go, I'm not opposed to it. I was going to fly one of my 3Xs but the carrier withdrew from the market so I was able to quietly let it die.
I'm more interested in constructions such as self-dumps, OJs, DOJs, and combinations with the same carrier, especially if they are bookable on the carrier's website... things that could seem to the carrier like I found a very cheap fare.