Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
May 14, 2023, 1:16 pm
Join Date: May 2023
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By adapting, I mean that every time a vulnerability is discovered, others will follow. Yes, regarding SF, I have clearly expressed my mistrust. However, how do they retrieve our findings, considering that the tool redirects to scanners? (via cookies?) Or does SF generate affiliate links and spy on every reservation after using its tool? Don't worry, I'm aware that most of the time, when the product is free, you are the product.
May 15, 2023, 1:40 am
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Vitamin Airline
A self dumping X factor has been found which preserves the I class with the ultra low TATL introductory BIZ base fare. After completing itinerary you will experience Vitamin overdose.
Last edited by WingedWorldExplorer; May 15, 2023 at 3:50 am
May 15, 2023, 4:23 am
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 155
By adapting, I mean that every time a vulnerability is discovered, others will follow. Yes, regarding SF, I have clearly expressed my mistrust. However, how do they retrieve our findings, considering that the tool redirects to scanners? (via cookies?) Or does SF generate affiliate links and spy on every reservation after using its tool? Don't worry, I'm aware that most of the time, when the product is free, you are the product.
sure they can see what strike pairs you are guessing with but that wouldn't help them much as the whole point of the fd tool is to search through hundreds/thousands of different strikes.
May 15, 2023, 4:56 am
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 412
I do not want to check their "tool" in order to debug "how" - I do not want to have anything in common with this nihilistic business. Suppose you have found a good strike. What do you do? Usually, you repeat your search multiple times at various dates. This statistical occurence is an indication "let's check if he, by chance, got something interesting"... If you want to search something, do it on your own, far away from SF.
May 15, 2023, 9:18 pm
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: YUL
Programs: AP
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To answer your question, their tool is not effective.
As a pointer, you are more likely to hit something by leveraging the advanced airport search on matrix (that’s how I got my first unload)
As a pointer, you are more likely to hit something by leveraging the advanced airport search on matrix (that’s how I got my first unload)
I understand how frustrating it is that this site exposes things publicly and that it contributes to killing the FD. Unfortunately, that's how it works in all businesses. We have to adapt, continue searching, and preserve our findings away from the general public. My question was whether the system implemented by SF can be truly effective because, in the end, the tool only automates randomly. It's just a simple question without highlighting or praising SF.
Like many here, I'm looking for some advice. Is this topic too sensitive?"
Like many here, I'm looking for some advice. Is this topic too sensitive?"
May 15, 2023, 11:10 pm
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May 16, 2023, 10:25 am
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Programs: M&M/S SPG livetime gold, but not running behind status & points anymore! Now only book value for $
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Are there any of the old x-factors in Southamerica working with EK/QR/CA or others from Europe to Asia ?
May 16, 2023, 12:41 pm
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May 22, 2023, 4:29 am
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May 22, 2023, 3:09 pm
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May 22, 2023, 8:57 pm
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Am I right to assume that:
This candidate fare of yours does not show immediately on ITA and will require advanced routing tricks i.e. force only results of that specific airline/break 2 segments into 4 etc. to show?
or
Is this a unique case whereby the airline charges extremely low bf just for that specific route?
May 23, 2023, 12:31 am
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Programs: QFF
Posts: 14
3x
Have found a juicy return in J C1-C2, looking for a 3x that will trim the fat, any suggestions / hints on finding the x? Do i need to leave from the base airport? Can i book the 3x in economy even though the return is in J?