[FARE GONE] DL: AKL-OAK / USD902 (Business Class)
#94
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#95
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There is nothing to stop you changing the frequent flyer number. Before each sector, even.
However, this can be risky and the results can be different than expected. Some numbers are remarkably sticky, and although you get issued with a boarding pass with the changed FFP number, the miles may still magically end up in the previously-listed account. And in some cases, although you waited until after a particular flight to change the number, the fact that the number is changed may grab the miles that should have been earned for that earlier flight and nab them for the "newer" number.
You would be better off putting the frequent flyer number of your "main" or most important programme in the booking; do not touch or change it; complete all flights; wait until all miles for all sectors that can post to that account have actually posted to that account; and only then, do a retro-claim from the "secondary" programme, for those sectors that didn't give you miles in your main programme.
Instead of "maybes", you should really check. However, it is almost always better to stick with existing accounts, than to open new ones. There is little benefit of earning, say, 12,000 miles in programme X where the miles will stay, abandoned, alone and unusable, than instead deciding to put that flying into your existing, usable and useful account where they earn, say, only 5,000 miles. That the miles are in your "main" account makes them far more liquid than the greater amount in a "strange" programme.
[Would you, for instance, prefer to receive 5000 Albanian lek, or 5 US dollars? The former works out as the equivalent of about US$43, but you won't be able to spend or convert that currency easily - so the $5 dollars are actually of far more immediate value to you]
And besides, Alitalia Millemiglia is in a huge state of flux right now, with the current programme about to expire (you may have to kiss those miles away as soon as March, depending on when your flights are) and the longterm prospects of Millemiglia are under a cloud, given that Alitalia is either to be sold or wound up by April of next year.
However, this can be risky and the results can be different than expected. Some numbers are remarkably sticky, and although you get issued with a boarding pass with the changed FFP number, the miles may still magically end up in the previously-listed account. And in some cases, although you waited until after a particular flight to change the number, the fact that the number is changed may grab the miles that should have been earned for that earlier flight and nab them for the "newer" number.
You would be better off putting the frequent flyer number of your "main" or most important programme in the booking; do not touch or change it; complete all flights; wait until all miles for all sectors that can post to that account have actually posted to that account; and only then, do a retro-claim from the "secondary" programme, for those sectors that didn't give you miles in your main programme.
Instead of "maybes", you should really check. However, it is almost always better to stick with existing accounts, than to open new ones. There is little benefit of earning, say, 12,000 miles in programme X where the miles will stay, abandoned, alone and unusable, than instead deciding to put that flying into your existing, usable and useful account where they earn, say, only 5,000 miles. That the miles are in your "main" account makes them far more liquid than the greater amount in a "strange" programme.
[Would you, for instance, prefer to receive 5000 Albanian lek, or 5 US dollars? The former works out as the equivalent of about US$43, but you won't be able to spend or convert that currency easily - so the $5 dollars are actually of far more immediate value to you]
And besides, Alitalia Millemiglia is in a huge state of flux right now, with the current programme about to expire (you may have to kiss those miles away as soon as March, depending on when your flights are) and the longterm prospects of Millemiglia are under a cloud, given that Alitalia is either to be sold or wound up by April of next year.
#96
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That's a unique feature of DL system. DL system prevents change of FFP once travel begins. Even if you manage to change it, say for DL coded AF operated flight, DL system still credits to first FFP entered.
#97
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Name a program that will let you change your FF # once travel has commenced?
Last edited by nichojo; Nov 2, 2017 at 6:46 pm
#98
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You are correct, sorry I was mistakenly looking at 200% RDM. So it looks like almost silver. So MQD is enough for gold so i just need to worry about MQM threshold of 50? I had been thinking about skyteam, with all the cheap China Eastern flights out of JFK
Last edited by CDKing; Nov 2, 2017 at 6:57 pm
#99
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But, why? It should be flight specific, many itineraries include multiple airlines that not all FF programs recognize. That's archaic and frankly offensive when airlines want to benefit from codesharing and not pass those perks along to travelers.
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#101
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"You cannot accrue partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number if you have already used your AAdvantage number to obtain AAdvantage program benefits such as First or Business Class upgrades, baggage fee waivers or complimentary access to Preferred/Main Cabin Extra seats. Additionally, you cannot redeem partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number and obtain AAdvantage program benefits such as priority boarding and access to preferred seats."
Other airlines seem to follow.
#102
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CHS
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Frowned upon, even if *technically* possible. From AA:
"You cannot accrue partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number if you have already used your AAdvantage number to obtain AAdvantage program benefits such as First or Business Class upgrades, baggage fee waivers or complimentary access to Preferred/Main Cabin Extra seats. Additionally, you cannot redeem partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number and obtain AAdvantage program benefits such as priority boarding and access to preferred seats."
Other airlines seem to follow.
"You cannot accrue partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number if you have already used your AAdvantage number to obtain AAdvantage program benefits such as First or Business Class upgrades, baggage fee waivers or complimentary access to Preferred/Main Cabin Extra seats. Additionally, you cannot redeem partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number and obtain AAdvantage program benefits such as priority boarding and access to preferred seats."
Other airlines seem to follow.
#103
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 508
Apologize for the ignorance, but I'm trying to calculate this award. Would a Delta Skymiles expert please double check my "math". I'd appreciate it.
First, all travel is in 2018.
AKL-BNE I VA, BNE-LAX I VA, LAX - SAN F DL, SAN-LAX DL F, LAX-SYD DL I, SYD-AKL VA I.
Miles flown: 17,702
MQMs: 28,285
$906 x 5 = 4,530 skymiles (no status)
**EDIT** Plus I'll get since I'm a SPG Platinum 1 Starpoint for every dollar spent on eligible Delta flights. Giving me $906 SPG points.
I will now almost be silver with delta if I spend an additional $2,094 MQDs. OR if I spend $25k in one year with DL Skymiles CC (select ones) will have the waiver in place and then qualify for Silver Status.
Now, if on my Platinum DL Skymiles CC, I spend $25 in one year I'll get an additional 10K MQMs AND get an additional 10k skymiles.
Bringing me to MQMs 38,285 and having silver status locked in.
Does this add up? Did I pass my algebra test? HAHA thx!
First, all travel is in 2018.
AKL-BNE I VA, BNE-LAX I VA, LAX - SAN F DL, SAN-LAX DL F, LAX-SYD DL I, SYD-AKL VA I.
Miles flown: 17,702
MQMs: 28,285
$906 x 5 = 4,530 skymiles (no status)
**EDIT** Plus I'll get since I'm a SPG Platinum 1 Starpoint for every dollar spent on eligible Delta flights. Giving me $906 SPG points.
I will now almost be silver with delta if I spend an additional $2,094 MQDs. OR if I spend $25k in one year with DL Skymiles CC (select ones) will have the waiver in place and then qualify for Silver Status.
Now, if on my Platinum DL Skymiles CC, I spend $25 in one year I'll get an additional 10K MQMs AND get an additional 10k skymiles.
Bringing me to MQMs 38,285 and having silver status locked in.
Does this add up? Did I pass my algebra test? HAHA thx!
Last edited by ManFactSpendLA; Nov 2, 2017 at 7:38 pm Reason: add spg
#104
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Apologize for the ignorance, but I'm trying to calculate this award. Would a Delta Skymiles expert please double check my "math". I'd appreciate it.
First, all travel is in 2018.
AKL-BNE I VA, BNE-LAX I VA, LAX - SAN F DL, SAN-LAX DL F, LAX-SYD DL I, SYD-AKL VA I.
Miles flown: 17,702
MQMs: 28,285
$906 x 5 = 4,530 skymiles (no status)
**EDIT** Plus I'll get since I'm a SPG Platinum 1 Starpoint for every dollar spent on eligible Delta flights. Giving me $906 SPG points.
I will now almost be silver with delta if I spend an additional $2,094 MQDs. OR if I spend $25k in one year with DL Skymiles CC (select ones) will have the waiver in place and then qualify for Silver Status.
Now, if on my Platinum DL Skymiles CC, I spend $25 in one year I'll get an additional 10K MQMs AND get an additional 10k skymiles.
Bringing me to MQMs 38,285 and having silver status locked in.
Does this add up? Did I pass my algebra test? HAHA thx!
First, all travel is in 2018.
AKL-BNE I VA, BNE-LAX I VA, LAX - SAN F DL, SAN-LAX DL F, LAX-SYD DL I, SYD-AKL VA I.
Miles flown: 17,702
MQMs: 28,285
$906 x 5 = 4,530 skymiles (no status)
**EDIT** Plus I'll get since I'm a SPG Platinum 1 Starpoint for every dollar spent on eligible Delta flights. Giving me $906 SPG points.
I will now almost be silver with delta if I spend an additional $2,094 MQDs. OR if I spend $25k in one year with DL Skymiles CC (select ones) will have the waiver in place and then qualify for Silver Status.
Now, if on my Platinum DL Skymiles CC, I spend $25 in one year I'll get an additional 10K MQMs AND get an additional 10k skymiles.
Bringing me to MQMs 38,285 and having silver status locked in.
Does this add up? Did I pass my algebra test? HAHA thx!
#105
Join Date: May 2015
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