[PREM FARE GONE] Ba/aa cai-lhr-lax-hnl (840 tp)= us$1556
Sep 21, 2017, 7:34 am
#391
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Good point, so it wasn't deal specific. Anyway, this problem has resolved itself, it seems, lol...
Last edited by nk15; Sep 21, 2017 at 8:11 am
Sep 21, 2017, 8:02 am
#392
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How does seat selection work for the AA trasncon segments? When I view my booking on BA.com, I can select seats for the BA flights. For the AA flights, it transfers me to AA.com but I can only select seats for the LAX-HNL segments. No option to choose seats for the JFK-LAX part.
Sep 21, 2017, 8:13 am
#393
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How does seat selection work for the AA trasncon segments? When I view my booking on BA.com, I can select seats for the BA flights. For the AA flights, it transfers me to AA.com but I can only select seats for the LAX-HNL segments. No option to choose seats for the JFK-LAX part.
on BA coded flights operated by AA clicking 'select seats' on BA.com will show you the AA operating carrier reservation number (different from AA code for AA coded flights), use this to select via AA.web
As a rule you need to open the operating carrier reservation in its home system/ website to select seats (not the marketing carrier reservation).
Sep 21, 2017, 8:32 am
#394
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on AA coded flights you need to use AA confirmation code shown in the booking (or in checkmytrip).
on BA coded flights operated by AA clicking 'select seats' on BA.com will show you the AA operating carrier reservation number (different from AA code for AA coded flights), use this to select via AA.web
As a rule you need to open the operating carrier reservation in its home system/ website to select seats (not the marketing carrier reservation).
on BA coded flights operated by AA clicking 'select seats' on BA.com will show you the AA operating carrier reservation number (different from AA code for AA coded flights), use this to select via AA.web
As a rule you need to open the operating carrier reservation in its home system/ website to select seats (not the marketing carrier reservation).
Sep 21, 2017, 11:26 am
#396
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I believe it. However, that is even more pathetic: to get a trick killed without even taking advantage of it, just by blabbering about it in public.
The fact that very few people have booked these tickets does not mean they don't attract attention. They could still be a very large % or even 100% of the sold FC seats in some flight 10 months out. That will attract attention.
The fact that very few people have booked these tickets does not mean they don't attract attention. They could still be a very large % or even 100% of the sold FC seats in some flight 10 months out. That will attract attention.
I think it was either Karfa Calchas or Dutch (cannot remember which one) who clearly identified in this forum (on the TP thread IIRC) in 2014 or 2015 that the way to 'force A on the transcon' was to book an BA fare where there was I0 - because this information was public, and given that the TP rules for 'fake first and 'real first' were the same at the time, this was of limited interest for many of the TP Runners here.
So no-one killed this trick by 'blabbing about it here' given that it has been widely discussed for at least 2 and I think 3 years.
In addition it has nothing to do with Cairo and was previously discussed as it applied to the ex-Dubs which were fashionable then.
Its easy to add 2 and 2 and get 22, but that doesn't make it correct.
Sep 21, 2017, 11:41 am
#397
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Some context
I think it was either Karfa Calchas or Dutch (cannot remember which one) who clearly identified in this forum (on the TP thread IIRC) in 2014 or 2015 that the way to 'force A on the transcon' was to book an BA fare where there was I0 - because this information was public, and given that the TP rules for 'fake first and 'real first' were the same at the time, this was of limited interest for many of the TP Runners here.
So no-one killed this trick by 'blabbing about it here' given that it has been widely discussed for at least 2 and I think 3 years.
In addition it has nothing to do with Cairo and was previously discussed as it applied to the ex-Dubs which were fashionable then.
Its easy to add 2 and 2 and get 22, but that doesn't make it correct.
I think it was either Karfa Calchas or Dutch (cannot remember which one) who clearly identified in this forum (on the TP thread IIRC) in 2014 or 2015 that the way to 'force A on the transcon' was to book an BA fare where there was I0 - because this information was public, and given that the TP rules for 'fake first and 'real first' were the same at the time, this was of limited interest for many of the TP Runners here.
So no-one killed this trick by 'blabbing about it here' given that it has been widely discussed for at least 2 and I think 3 years.
In addition it has nothing to do with Cairo and was previously discussed as it applied to the ex-Dubs which were fashionable then.
Its easy to add 2 and 2 and get 22, but that doesn't make it correct.
Someone silly in rev man loaded the wrong routing rules in June this year which were a copy-paste of rules pre-January thus allowing this trick to re-appear. Blabber here might have contributed to some other rev man person to notice the mistake and change the rules again.
Sep 21, 2017, 12:18 pm
#398
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That's not a complete information. This BA trick was removed when AA consolidated their booking classes in January, as someone rewrote the rules to say I required when OFFERED (rather than AVAILABLE). this meant you could not go to A as I is always offered, just not available on some flights.
Someone silly in rev man loaded the wrong routing rules in June this year which were a copy-paste of rules pre-January thus allowing this trick to re-appear. Blabber here might have contributed to some other rev man person to notice the mistake and change the rules again.
Someone silly in rev man loaded the wrong routing rules in June this year which were a copy-paste of rules pre-January thus allowing this trick to re-appear. Blabber here might have contributed to some other rev man person to notice the mistake and change the rules again.
1) A when I was not available was the status quo prior to June, but is now over?
2) The June mistake meant all I fares were possible if you tweaked it right?
So both are now over, and its no longer possible to get A under any circumstances?
Sep 21, 2017, 12:20 pm
#399
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That's not a complete information. This BA trick was removed when AA consolidated their booking classes in January, as someone rewrote the rules to say I required when OFFERED (rather than AVAILABLE). this meant you could not go to A as I is always offered, just not available on some flights.
Someone silly in rev man loaded the wrong routing rules in June this year which were a copy-paste of rules pre-January thus allowing this trick to re-appear. Blabber here might have contributed to some other rev man person to notice the mistake and change the rules again.
Someone silly in rev man loaded the wrong routing rules in June this year which were a copy-paste of rules pre-January thus allowing this trick to re-appear. Blabber here might have contributed to some other rev man person to notice the mistake and change the rules again.
Sep 21, 2017, 1:22 pm
#400
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A when I not available was status quo before January.
June mistake meant it re-appeared.
It was closed a couple of days ago, but no guarantee it won't come back one day in the future
Sep 21, 2017, 1:31 pm
#401
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And this is not time bound, the rules will not change if you do this anytime before the desired travel dates on the transcon sectors - so don't annoy BA right now haha
Sep 21, 2017, 1:43 pm
#402
Join Date: May 2006
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I availability for all segments, but can't price
I am trying to put together a trip for April 2018.
Apr 1: CAI-JFK [stopover]
Apr 8: JFK-HNL
Apr 10: HNL-LAX [stopover
Apr 13: LAX-CAI
Using ExpertFlyer I've identified these days as having I availability on all segments. And yet when I try it in ITA Matrix, it insists on putting the outbound legs in other booking classes, such as R, and the fare code ends up being RRCME (more expensive) instead of IRCME. I get the same results on AA.com. Why is this?
Apr 1: CAI-JFK [stopover]
Apr 8: JFK-HNL
Apr 10: HNL-LAX [stopover
Apr 13: LAX-CAI
Using ExpertFlyer I've identified these days as having I availability on all segments. And yet when I try it in ITA Matrix, it insists on putting the outbound legs in other booking classes, such as R, and the fare code ends up being RRCME (more expensive) instead of IRCME. I get the same results on AA.com. Why is this?
Sep 21, 2017, 2:32 pm
#403
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I am trying to put together a trip for April 2018.
Apr 1: CAI-JFK [stopover]
Apr 8: JFK-HNL
Apr 10: HNL-LAX [stopover
Apr 13: LAX-CAI
Using ExpertFlyer I've identified these days as having I availability on all segments. And yet when I try it in ITA Matrix, it insists on putting the outbound legs in other booking classes, such as R, and the fare code ends up being RRCME (more expensive) instead of IRCME. I get the same results on AA.com. Why is this?
Apr 1: CAI-JFK [stopover]
Apr 8: JFK-HNL
Apr 10: HNL-LAX [stopover
Apr 13: LAX-CAI
Using ExpertFlyer I've identified these days as having I availability on all segments. And yet when I try it in ITA Matrix, it insists on putting the outbound legs in other booking classes, such as R, and the fare code ends up being RRCME (more expensive) instead of IRCME. I get the same results on AA.com. Why is this?
Make sure you are using the same point of sale and are not using BA prime flights on the Jfk lax and vv
Sep 21, 2017, 2:58 pm
#404
Join Date: Aug 2011
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For £1343 + 45,000 avios
i booked cai to Mia via lhr
mia to dfw 777 flat seat
dfw to hnl 777
hnl to dfw 777
dfw to sjc
sjc to lhr
dublin to lhr to Cairo 5 months later
lhr to miami a380 and sjc to london upgraded to first
i think this is a great deal right?
i booked cai to Mia via lhr
mia to dfw 777 flat seat
dfw to hnl 777
hnl to dfw 777
dfw to sjc
sjc to lhr
dublin to lhr to Cairo 5 months later
lhr to miami a380 and sjc to london upgraded to first
i think this is a great deal right?
Sep 21, 2017, 5:53 pm
#405
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: LAX
Programs: UA Gold/1MM, AA EXP, Marriott Plat
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I am trying to put together a trip for April 2018.
Apr 1: CAI-JFK [stopover]
Apr 8: JFK-HNL
Apr 10: HNL-LAX [stopover
Apr 13: LAX-CAI
Using ExpertFlyer I've identified these days as having I availability on all segments. And yet when I try it in ITA Matrix, it insists on putting the outbound legs in other booking classes, such as R, and the fare code ends up being RRCME (more expensive) instead of IRCME. I get the same results on AA.com. Why is this?
Apr 1: CAI-JFK [stopover]
Apr 8: JFK-HNL
Apr 10: HNL-LAX [stopover
Apr 13: LAX-CAI
Using ExpertFlyer I've identified these days as having I availability on all segments. And yet when I try it in ITA Matrix, it insists on putting the outbound legs in other booking classes, such as R, and the fare code ends up being RRCME (more expensive) instead of IRCME. I get the same results on AA.com. Why is this?
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