Last edit by: dayone
This thread (post #5 from Marriott Rewards Insider) has the official announcement of changes effective later in 2018.
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
Official announcement – See how our three loyalty programs will become one in August
#676
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Considering that Marriott LT Plats had no guaranteed suite upgrade benefit at all until this new program was announced, while SPG LT Plats had the guaranteed suite upgrade benefit all along, it seems reasonable that SPG LT Plats wouldn’t get lower suite upgrade priority behind Marriott LT Plats.
#677
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Bonvoy :Ambassador , ALL :Diamond, Skywards :Silver, Krisflyer :Silver
Posts: 2,808
I suspect most SPG LT Plats wouldn’t care much at all except for their reasonable assumption that Plat Premiers (Plat75) will get priority for suite upgrades over regular Plats (Plat50).
Considering that Marriott LT Plats had no guaranteed suite upgrade benefit at all until this new program was announced, while SPG LT Plats had the guaranteed suite upgrade benefit all along, it seems reasonable that SPG LT Plats wouldn’t get lower suite upgrade priority behind Marriott LT Plats.
But then the wording is exactly the same so by definition, the priority should be equal. (need the proper t&c)
Talking about guaranteed suite upgrade benefit ..... I think new program wording (no t&c yet so it might be change in the future) is less demanding than SPG wording
SPG : An upgrade to best available room at check-in — including a Standard Suite
New Program : Enhanced Room Upgrade. Based on Availability. Including Select Suites
SPG wording is more demanding. Hotel must upgrade members to standard suite if available if not then check if the cat below suite available and so on (best available room)
While new program wording is more lenient as any upgrade is already satisfy the condition, and hotel can upgrade up to select suites if they choose to.
#678
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
So 50 combined nights will get you what would be called Marriott Gold now, but will be renamed to new-program Platinum in August (and into 2019). But the benefits are changing as well as the names changing, so it's a not a simple answer. Either educate yourself by reading the dozens of pages that Marriott and SPG have published, or if you don't want to read that much, just wait until the fall and maybe it'll be clearer by then what exactly you'll get with 50 nights in 2018.
And also, it has not been announced what the status expiration month will be for the new program. So again you have to wait to find that out. All we can say right now is it that it'll be good until "early" 2020.
#679
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Talking about guaranteed suite upgrade benefit ..... I think new program wording (no t&c yet so it might be change in the future) is less demanding than SPG wording
SPG : An upgrade to best available room at check-in — including a Standard Suite
New Program : Enhanced Room Upgrade. Based on Availability. Including Select Suites
SPG wording is more demanding. Hotel must upgrade members to standard suite if available if not then check if the cat below suite available and so on (best available room)
While new program wording is more lenient as any upgrade is already satisfy the condition, and hotel can upgrade up to select suites if they choose to.
SPG : An upgrade to best available room at check-in — including a Standard Suite
New Program : Enhanced Room Upgrade. Based on Availability. Including Select Suites
SPG wording is more demanding. Hotel must upgrade members to standard suite if available if not then check if the cat below suite available and so on (best available room)
While new program wording is more lenient as any upgrade is already satisfy the condition, and hotel can upgrade up to select suites if they choose to.
Last edited by bhrubin; Apr 30, 2018 at 7:39 am
#680
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: AGS, CAE, ATL
Programs: Delta PM 2MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 511
#681
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
Despite a lot of speculation it appears Marriott isn't making changes to Rewarding Events, at least as of August 1. I've reached to to a half-dozen contacts at both Marriott corporate sales and individual Marriott properties. Nobody knew anything until, finally, someone reached out to someone in corporate. Here what Marriott had to say:
"At this time no details have been released in regards to Rewarding Events besides what is available on Members.Marriott.com. Once corporate is ready to share this information all properties will be notified. Until then, no details have been or are being released. Rest assured support teams as well as properties will receive updates in the next couple of months as soon as the information is ready to be released. Unfortunately, this is not information that we know at this time."
"At this time no details have been released in regards to Rewarding Events besides what is available on Members.Marriott.com. Once corporate is ready to share this information all properties will be notified. Until then, no details have been or are being released. Rest assured support teams as well as properties will receive updates in the next couple of months as soon as the information is ready to be released. Unfortunately, this is not information that we know at this time."
#682
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seat 1L these days :)
Programs: AF Platinum/AY LUMO/SK EBG/baEC S/HYATT Globalist/MR LTP/A3 *G/HH Dia/IHG plat
Posts: 7,957
Despite a lot of speculation it appears Marriott isn't making changes to Rewarding Events, at least as of August 1. I've reached to to a half-dozen contacts at both Marriott corporate sales and individual Marriott properties. Nobody knew anything until, finally, someone reached out to someone in corporate. Here what Marriott had to say:
"At this time no details have been released in regards to Rewarding Events besides what is available on Members.Marriott.com. Once corporate is ready to share this information all properties will be notified. Until then, no details have been or are being released. Rest assured support teams as well as properties will receive updates in the next couple of months as soon as the information is ready to be released. Unfortunately, this is not information that we know at this time."
"At this time no details have been released in regards to Rewarding Events besides what is available on Members.Marriott.com. Once corporate is ready to share this information all properties will be notified. Until then, no details have been or are being released. Rest assured support teams as well as properties will receive updates in the next couple of months as soon as the information is ready to be released. Unfortunately, this is not information that we know at this time."
#683
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30,112 points shy from lifetime plat. hmmm.
30,112 points shy from lifetime plat. hmmm.
#684
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If you don't expect to earn enough points to cross this year (the last year you can earn this lifetime status), you can buy up to 50k points.
Or see here for more ideas:
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Or see here for more ideas:
The Race to 2.0MM Points is On!
#685
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: In the sky.
Programs: AA- EXP 3mm, Marriott Titanium(Lifetime), *wood Plat, Hertz Pres. Circle, *bucks Gold, Joan Ranger
Posts: 781
What's up w/ the Marriott Platinum phone reservations number??? Was told it's temporary- temporarily annoying! Hope they get direct dial to agent after entry of MR #.....
#686
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I'm not sure about that, as Marriott hasn't clarified what spending will count towards the threshold for platinum premier ambassador. I do $200,000-plus a year in events with Marriott. I'd expect my $200,000 to count since it's gotten me platinum premier under the present program.
#687
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 169
any info on the "peak" & "off-peak" periods for HK, CHINA, JAPAN, TAIWAN regions?
#688
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SCQ
Programs: tk gold, lh ftl, ab gold
Posts: 352
I apologize if this had been answered somewhere already, but i am confused on a very important issue. The Marriott Twitter team can't (or doesn't want) to answer my very simple and straightforward question, every time just providing me with a link to their new members.marriott.com page.
So, the question is: does the status that we are going to get in August 2018 in the combined program, depend on the current member's status, or on the "temporary" status achieved from January 1st to July 31st, 2018?
Here's why i am confused. I am Platinum in both programs (originally MR Platinum, then matched to SPG Platinum). The status is valid thru early 2019. At first, it had been my understanding that in August i will be matched to Platinum.
The Marriott Twitter team, however, told me that i am currently SPG Gold => Marriott Gold => but since i am originally SPG Gold, i will be matched to Gold in August. ???
This led me to thinking that they judge not based on current status (which is Platinum), but on the status i have been able to re-qualify so far in 2018. This is indeed SPG Gold (i have 19 stays in 2018).
Once again sorry, but either i am misunderstanding something very simple, or Marriott "forgot" to put emphasis on this very important aspect. If it's true, Marriott is basically stealing our 5 months of hard-earner status.
So, the question is: does the status that we are going to get in August 2018 in the combined program, depend on the current member's status, or on the "temporary" status achieved from January 1st to July 31st, 2018?
Here's why i am confused. I am Platinum in both programs (originally MR Platinum, then matched to SPG Platinum). The status is valid thru early 2019. At first, it had been my understanding that in August i will be matched to Platinum.
The Marriott Twitter team, however, told me that i am currently SPG Gold => Marriott Gold => but since i am originally SPG Gold, i will be matched to Gold in August. ???
This led me to thinking that they judge not based on current status (which is Platinum), but on the status i have been able to re-qualify so far in 2018. This is indeed SPG Gold (i have 19 stays in 2018).
Once again sorry, but either i am misunderstanding something very simple, or Marriott "forgot" to put emphasis on this very important aspect. If it's true, Marriott is basically stealing our 5 months of hard-earner status.
#689
Join Date: Jun 2008
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#690
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
I apologize if this had been answered somewhere already, but i am confused on a very important issue. The Marriott Twitter team can't (or doesn't want) to answer my very simple and straightforward question, every time just providing me with a link to their new members.marriott.com page.
So, the question is: does the status that we are going to get in August 2018 in the combined program, depend on the current member's status, or on the "temporary" status achieved from January 1st to July 31st, 2018?
Here's why i am confused. I am Platinum in both programs (originally MR Platinum, then matched to SPG Platinum). The status is valid thru early 2019. At first, it had been my understanding that in August i will be matched to Platinum.
The Marriott Twitter team, however, told me that i am currently SPG Gold => Marriott Gold => but since i am originally SPG Gold, i will be matched to Gold in August. ???
This led me to thinking that they judge not based on current status (which is Platinum), but on the status i have been able to re-qualify so far in 2018. This is indeed SPG Gold (i have 19 stays in 2018).
Once again sorry, but either i am misunderstanding something very simple, or Marriott "forgot" to put emphasis on this very important aspect. If it's true, Marriott is basically stealing our 5 months of hard-earner status.
So, the question is: does the status that we are going to get in August 2018 in the combined program, depend on the current member's status, or on the "temporary" status achieved from January 1st to July 31st, 2018?
Here's why i am confused. I am Platinum in both programs (originally MR Platinum, then matched to SPG Platinum). The status is valid thru early 2019. At first, it had been my understanding that in August i will be matched to Platinum.
The Marriott Twitter team, however, told me that i am currently SPG Gold => Marriott Gold => but since i am originally SPG Gold, i will be matched to Gold in August. ???
This led me to thinking that they judge not based on current status (which is Platinum), but on the status i have been able to re-qualify so far in 2018. This is indeed SPG Gold (i have 19 stays in 2018).
Once again sorry, but either i am misunderstanding something very simple, or Marriott "forgot" to put emphasis on this very important aspect. If it's true, Marriott is basically stealing our 5 months of hard-earner status.