Apr 10, 2018, 6:28 am
Last edit by: MSPeconomist
In addition to the OP, see posts 70 and 121 for "information". Also, see post 1402 in the sticky merger thread in the Starwood forum which summarizes the information posted by OMAAT. [VFTW also had a similar discussion yesterday.]
Post 434 has a summary of qualification requirements for Marriott LTP in various periods.
Post 434 has a summary of qualification requirements for Marriott LTP in various periods.
Leaked New Combined Marriott / SPG Status Tiers
Apr 9, 2018, 8:24 am
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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Leaked New Combined Marriott / SPG Status Tiers
I am surprised this hasn't leaked to FT yet, but a good source shared the following details about the merged program:
Apr 9, 2018, 8:43 am
#2
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 805
Odd, my gf has 46 nights showing but had a 5 night stay last week which hasn't posted. Her app showed gold status and 4 nights to platinum, I wonder if it wasn't an app glitch but actually going off of this new tier structure.
Apr 9, 2018, 8:54 am
#3
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
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If, this is true, then it will be interesting to see what the associated benefits are and what lifetime requirements for PP will be (assuming LT S, G and P remain what they are). Devaluing Plat to be the new Gold does not surprise me much with LTP requirements being so low. My guess is Plat and above will have lounge access, but Gold will not. Obviously just a guess on my part. Another guess would be 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% status bonuses.
Apr 9, 2018, 8:57 am
#4
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Obviously this very interesting and seems to imply a new life time status coming called Platinum Premier Lifetime. Seems odd and problematical to completely merge in August.
Apr 9, 2018, 9:15 am
#5
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, UA Mileage Plus 1K, AA Executive Plat, Marriott Ambassador Elite
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if this is accurate, would be interesting to know if it is $20,000 in spend on the actual rate of the room or the total bill accumulated. With the majority of my travel near airports, rates are generally lower than booking a FS Marriott in a downtown metro.
Apr 9, 2018, 9:16 am
#6
Join Date: Oct 2017
Programs: AS MVP, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 191
I agree. August seems like a strange time to merge the two. Also, I would think they would want to announce the details a few months prior to the actual merge date, so information would likely have to come out fairly soon.
Apr 9, 2018, 9:26 am
#7
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I could see a scenario where they mimic AA - i.e., cap lifetime status at Platinum so they can still challenge loyalists to re-qualify every year for the higher/highest tier.
Apr 9, 2018, 9:28 am
#8
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 91
If history is any indication, I speculate that only Platinum and above can have free breakfast in the new program, because they hit the 50 night mark. Interestingly in the current structure of both SPG and Marriott, the breakfast benefit comes once you hit 50 nights (though with SPG one can opt for 25 stays instead).
Apr 9, 2018, 9:33 am
#9
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
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Agree. How to qualify for next year has not only been announced, but people have been working towards next year's status under those rules. It seems more likely that the new program parameters will be announced in August for implementation starting Jan 1.
Apr 9, 2018, 9:35 am
#10
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Going to be interesting, and as well got this impacts lifetime plat status and what the new qualifications will be.
Apr 9, 2018, 9:35 am
#11
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If history is any indication, I speculate that only Platinum and above can have free breakfast in the new program, because they hit the 50 night mark. Interestingly in the current structure of both SPG and Marriott, the breakfast benefit comes once you hit 50 nights (though with SPG one can opt for 25 stays instead).
And certainly hope their will be options for lifetime levels at the higher tiers. For a lifetime plat, this structure would be a bit of a drop. Then again, AA did it.
Last edited by C17PSGR; Apr 9, 2018 at 9:58 am
Apr 9, 2018, 9:35 am
#12
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If history is any indication, I speculate that only Platinum and above can have free breakfast in the new program, because they hit the 50 night mark. Interestingly in the current structure of both SPG and Marriott, the breakfast benefit comes once you hit 50 nights (though with SPG one can opt for 25 stays instead).
What's not addressed are the benefits aspect of the rewards and certain gimmicks such as can you have 3 nights count in a day when it moves on, or if you will get welcome bonus and etc.
Apr 9, 2018, 9:40 am
#13
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,324
Good point but I am thinking that Ambassador is a tier above Lifetime PP that could be strived for every year. Also having a Lifetime PP allows them to grandfather SPG Lifetime Platinum and them have them chase Lifetime PP.
Apr 9, 2018, 9:50 am
#14
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So the question too is, is LT PP 1,000 nights, or do they jack it up even more...
Apr 9, 2018, 10:00 am
#15
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And much like "segment warriors" have it pretty rough compared to distance flyers, it's not like endless 1 night stays are pleasing to do...