Apr 10, 2018, 6:28 am
Last edit by: MSPeconomist
In addition to the OP, see posts 70 and 121 for "information". Also, see post 1402 in the sticky merger thread in the Starwood forum which summarizes the information posted by OMAAT. [VFTW also had a similar discussion yesterday.]
Post 434 has a summary of qualification requirements for Marriott LTP in various periods.
Post 434 has a summary of qualification requirements for Marriott LTP in various periods.
Leaked New Combined Marriott / SPG Status Tiers
Apr 9, 2018, 4:49 pm
#121
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K MM, JL JMB SAPPHIRE, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,267
We will know next Monday
Apr 9, 2018, 4:49 pm
#122
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
What a difference time makes
There once was a Courtyard Club .... and FT's commented: "If you stay at CY often then it's worth it. Its benefits are free local calls, newspaper, and etc. BTW you receive $10 CY certificate when you join for $10 annual fee."
Club Courtyard
And IIRC, there wasn't free breakfast then either. But we did get coffee.
And then, in 1997, Marriott Rewards came along ... complete with a "card will also be color coded to indicate the member's status in Marriott's various special service clubs."
https://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4000603.html
There once was a Courtyard Club .... and FT's commented: "If you stay at CY often then it's worth it. Its benefits are free local calls, newspaper, and etc. BTW you receive $10 CY certificate when you join for $10 annual fee."
Club Courtyard
And IIRC, there wasn't free breakfast then either. But we did get coffee.
And then, in 1997, Marriott Rewards came along ... complete with a "card will also be color coded to indicate the member's status in Marriott's various special service clubs."
https://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4000603.html
Apr 9, 2018, 4:51 pm
#124
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
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I've had PP status for several years. Not sure when it started but nice to see a hotel with a guide for FD agents.
Apr 9, 2018, 4:52 pm
#125
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: SkyTeam Elite, HH Gold, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 262
The additional tiers may also help differentiate the benefits for the upcoming Chase and Amex cards. I could see:
Amex "Super Premium" consumer card: Will likely have a roughly $450 AF like the new Amex Hilton card. Could see this offering Plat status
Chase "Premium" consumer card: Could see $89-95 AF and with Gold status
Chase "Mass" consumer card: Could see either no AF or around $29 AF (like new IHG lower end card) and with Silver status
Amex "Super Premium" consumer card: Will likely have a roughly $450 AF like the new Amex Hilton card. Could see this offering Plat status
Chase "Premium" consumer card: Could see $89-95 AF and with Gold status
Chase "Mass" consumer card: Could see either no AF or around $29 AF (like new IHG lower end card) and with Silver status
I really hope this doesn't affect me for the rest of the year as a Marriott Gold member, I booked Marriott hotels with the knowledge I would be getting that lounge / breakfast. I have about 20 nights booked thus far, half of which were a pre-paid booking I cannot change.
Apr 9, 2018, 5:02 pm
#127
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
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It is an unpublished level. There will be several threads on here discussing that the benefits are undefined other than a small annual gift and a telephone number. From a practical view, it generally results in a suite upgrade outside North America. Within North America, many desk agents don't know what it is either although it has a distinctive code in the reservation system.
Apr 9, 2018, 5:03 pm
#128
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Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
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Marriott has had PP as an unpublished status for a long time, but most hotels don't know what it means.
Apr 9, 2018, 5:14 pm
#129
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Here there everywhere
Programs: Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, BA Silver, Aegean Gold, Aeroplan 25k, AA EXP
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As a LTP, I'll be watching carefully and may shift towards Hilton if Marriott show no respect despite all their previous assurances.
Apr 9, 2018, 5:15 pm
#130
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Gosh the postings in the blogosphere linking back to this post have the sky falling!
This is speculation which seems to have the ring of truth to it but it is just speculation. Hopefully, we'll have something more definitive next week.
That being said, I can't imagine Marriott will make an announcement next week that things are changing immediately. I can't think of any combined frequent traveler program that changed things immediately without notice -- particularly since there is an announcement that things will run separately for some period of time.
This is speculation which seems to have the ring of truth to it but it is just speculation. Hopefully, we'll have something more definitive next week.
That being said, I can't imagine Marriott will make an announcement next week that things are changing immediately. I can't think of any combined frequent traveler program that changed things immediately without notice -- particularly since there is an announcement that things will run separately for some period of time.
Apr 9, 2018, 5:42 pm
#132
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Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
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Apr 9, 2018, 5:44 pm
#133
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Where has Marriott made assurances previously? I've heard others say this before, but I've never once seen something to substantiate it. As everyone should know, lifetime is only for the lifetime of the program.
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Apr 9, 2018, 6:09 pm
#134
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Has there been any mention of suite upgrades and such and the differences with clearing said requests for the 3 Platinum tiers?
Apr 9, 2018, 6:19 pm
#135
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: NY/NJ
Posts: 524
Combining spg nights with marriott nights for status
I had an email exchange with CEO Sorenson a few months ago asking him to try to combine spg nights with marriott nights for status determination purposes this year. He said be patient, we're working on it. So this could very well be part of the announcement.