Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Aug 17, 2018, 8:29 pm
#5476
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 432
:facepalm:
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It's absolutely astounding that individuals, who would otherwise be patently aware that an agent's knowledge is in most cases less than a FTers', are accepting and posting what random agents are saying about the coming transition. In some cases even trusting random agents to a Lurker who is presenting information that has been precleared by the MR team in charge. Do I believe that all pronouncements are the final word or that the purported T&Cs are final... hopefully not. But to go around and claiming they are wrong because of gut feelings and beliefs etc is madness.
There is so little rationale for all the kvetching and griping and demanding in here it's absurd. It reminds me of children in an elementary playground making up rules for a game.
Good luck to all, see you on the other side.
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It's absolutely astounding that individuals, who would otherwise be patently aware that an agent's knowledge is in most cases less than a FTers', are accepting and posting what random agents are saying about the coming transition. In some cases even trusting random agents to a Lurker who is presenting information that has been precleared by the MR team in charge. Do I believe that all pronouncements are the final word or that the purported T&Cs are final... hopefully not. But to go around and claiming they are wrong because of gut feelings and beliefs etc is madness.
There is so little rationale for all the kvetching and griping and demanding in here it's absurd. It reminds me of children in an elementary playground making up rules for a game.
Good luck to all, see you on the other side.
Aug 17, 2018, 8:31 pm
#5477
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,480
It's absolutely astounding that individuals, who would otherwise be patently aware that an agent's knowledge is in most cases less than a FTers', are accepting and posting what random agents are saying about the coming transition. In some cases even trusting random agents to a Lurker who is presenting information that has been precleared by the MR team in charge. Do I believe that all pronouncements are the final word or that the purported T&Cs are final... hopefully not. But to go around and claiming they are wrong because of gut feelings and beliefs etc is madness.
There is so little rationale for all the kvetching and griping and demanding in here it's absurd. It reminds me of children in an elementary playground making up rules for a game.
There is so little rationale for all the kvetching and griping and demanding in here it's absurd. It reminds me of children in an elementary playground making up rules for a game.
I really don't see the point of all this self-created hysteria.
Aug 17, 2018, 8:40 pm
#5478
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Jakarta
Programs: *wood & marriott plat, Hyatt, Accor
Posts: 410
He explicitly said that these are marriott specific packages and I will not be able to use on any SPG hotels since they do not have any legacy catagory numbers.
When I doubted him, he put me on hold for 10 minutes, came back and said his supervisor confirmed the same.
I sure hope CSR is wrong but this is concerning.
I was told by Marriott CS, my travel package is no longer renewable after the 1 year. Which is a total change from my experience. Had I known, I would have reduced the number of travel packages I bought.
Aug 17, 2018, 9:00 pm
#5479
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,146
I have a Cat 9 award package
Should I hold on to it unattached or attach it to some property?
Im not really sure where I want to go at this point though
Hoping it will be a cat 7 in the new model
Should I hold on to it unattached or attach it to some property?
Im not really sure where I want to go at this point though
Hoping it will be a cat 7 in the new model
Aug 17, 2018, 9:43 pm
#5482
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
Aug 17, 2018, 9:45 pm
#5483
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: DUB-BOS
Programs: various
Posts: 3,693
The recent not upgrade/downgrade statement seems crazy unless they are deliberately trying to cause a lot of 'breakage'
For me the fairest and most simple solution is for MPG to say you had a TP for XX points per night in the old program, and that is worth the same in the new program with the option to upgrade/downgrade as desired (at the new rates)
Either way we will know shortly
For me the fairest and most simple solution is for MPG to say you had a TP for XX points per night in the old program, and that is worth the same in the new program with the option to upgrade/downgrade as desired (at the new rates)
Either way we will know shortly
Aug 17, 2018, 10:05 pm
#5484
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
James
Aug 17, 2018, 10:08 pm
#5485
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,146
where has this been said?
Aug 17, 2018, 10:11 pm
#5486
Join Date: May 2002
Location: SNA
Programs: STARS/LUMINOUS, PRIVE, FSPP, STARS, MO FAN Club, PEN Club, Bellini Club
Posts: 2,612
Aug 17, 2018, 10:21 pm
#5487
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,146
When I got my reservation is says 30E in tax and 390k points!
But my cert is attached to it?
Is this just a computer glitch?
Aug 17, 2018, 10:22 pm
#5488
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
The recent not upgrade/downgrade statement seems crazy unless they are deliberately trying to cause a lot of 'breakage'
For me the fairest and most simple solution is for MPG to say you had a TP for XX points per night in the old program, and that is worth the same in the new program with the option to upgrade/downgrade as desired (at the new rates)
Either way we will know shortly
For me the fairest and most simple solution is for MPG to say you had a TP for XX points per night in the old program, and that is worth the same in the new program with the option to upgrade/downgrade as desired (at the new rates)
Either way we will know shortly
But at least the the increase in pricing was given with 1.5 month advance notice.
Aug 17, 2018, 10:24 pm
#5489
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,026
You would be overly optimistic to think a cat9 will map to new cat7
Don't forget the current rc tiers
Don't forget the current rc tiers
Aug 17, 2018, 10:26 pm
#5490
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
Domes of Elounda is and will stay Domes of Elounda. There is not justification for it going up from 45K to 85K per night. So yes the cat 9 certificates should be remapped to category 7