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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.

The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider

Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:

Go to https://www.marriott.com/marriott/contact.mi

Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
Submit your request

As a reminder, status.marriott.com will periodically have additional updates.
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html

The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.

Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:

"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html

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Jun 6, 2018, 6:14 am

#3286

TIGRIS23

Join Date: Apr 2017

Posts: 248

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlysuites

- Coffee pods in the room are €2. The first time I have come across a 5* charging for coffee pods.
- They refuse to give more then 1 bottle of 500ml water per person per day.
- The hotel was meant to have a heated pool which they never heated and the water was freezing. The kids only went swimming once.
- My toddler is a fussy eater and they refused to let us carry her left over coco pops so she can eat in the room later.

When you are paying $800 a night for a hotel room you expect them not to do these things.

Yes I agree with you!! That really sucks when you are paying $800/night and expecting better for a property like that! Those are minor things they are making issues of. That really puts a damper on considering this property.

Jun 7, 2018, 7:05 pm

#3287

theOtherHolmes

Join Date: Mar 2013

Programs: Aeroplan, Amex AeroPlat

Posts: 977

I’m contemplating doing another TP to Alaska Miles since the first one served us so well. Any cat 5 or 6 beach front properties worth staying 6 or 7 nights for? Anything in Mexico, DR or Turks?

Jun 8, 2018, 11:55 am

#3288

SimpleManToo

Join Date: Aug 2003

Location: Cullman, Alabama

Programs: Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, IHG Gold, SPG Gold

Posts: 648

So should one purchase a Travel & Fly certificate now OR should they wait until after August when the changes take place? I just dont want to experience another devaluation for something I have worked so hard for. My concern is that if I purchase a travel certificate now, that marriott will cancel it or refund me less money than what I used to purchase the travel + hotel certificate.

Thoughts anyone on anything official?

Jun 10, 2018, 11:39 am

#3289

flyaxa

Join Date: Aug 2012

Location: BOS/MHT/PVD/BDL

Programs: Belong to Many but No Longer Loyal to Any

Posts: 880

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimpleManToo

Nothing official, but I can tell you my thought process on the subject. The airline miles (for me) are the most valuable component of the TPs. And if TPs do indeed continue post August, I don't see the airline redemption going up. In fact, my gut tells me, this is where Marriott will devalue, so I am going to purchase before August.

Jun 10, 2018, 5:35 pm

#3290

Kalboz

Join Date: Sep 2007

Location: SNA/LAX

Programs: Hertz PC, Hilton DMD, IHG Spire Amb, Bonvoy Titanium Elite & WoH Globalist

Posts: 8,076

With the 20K points posting for upgrading the Marriott CC, I will be sitting on more than 380K Marriott points in a week or so.

My question is: how to proceed forward to maximize my returns using the said Marriott Travel Packages.

Thank you!

Jun 10, 2018, 5:39 pm

#3291

Kalboz

Join Date: Sep 2007

Location: SNA/LAX

Programs: Hertz PC, Hilton DMD, IHG Spire Amb, Bonvoy Titanium Elite & WoH Globalist

Posts: 8,076

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyaxa

Agreed, but I have used the 7-day category 1-5 hotels four separate times to spectacular redemptions in Thailand. Treated like royalty with suite upgrades, breakfast buffet at restaurant, lounge access, and VIP treatment. Redemptions were worth a $1000 a week easy.

Jun 11, 2018, 10:29 am

#3292

BearSmart

Join Date: Oct 2009

Location: YYC

Programs: SPG Gold, Emerald Club Executive, Hertz 5 Star

Posts: 103

I redeemed a 7-day Category 1-5 travel package this morning for 270,000 points. However, according to the email confirmation and my account, the agent gave me a 5-day Category 7 travel package for 270,000 points instead. Both packages includes 120,000 miles transfer to airline partner, the only difference between these two packages would be:

7 nights Category 5 (150,000 MR points via regular points redemption, with 5th night free), vs
5 nights Category 7 (140,000 MR points via regular points redemption, with 5th night free)

Before I call Marriott to fix it, can anyone think of any advantage of keeping the 5-day package over the 7-day package?

Thanks

Jun 11, 2018, 10:47 am

#3293

khlay

Join Date: Jan 2007

Location: SJC/SFO

Posts: 295

I wish I can get a 5 nights package

I rarely stay in the same place for 7 nights.

davidsc111 likes this.

Jun 11, 2018, 11:50 am

#3294

goodeats21

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Mar 2010

Location: DAY

Programs: UA 1K 1MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Amex MR; Chase UR; Hertz PC; Global Entry

Posts: 10,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by BearSmart

7 nights Category 5 (150,000 MR points via regular points redemption, with 5th night free), vs
5 nights Category 7 (140,000 MR points via regular points redemption, with 5th night free)

Before I call Marriott to fix it, can anyone think of any advantage of keeping the 5-day package over the 7-day package?

Thanks

It would really depend on how you plan to use the certificate nights. Would you rather stay 5 nights at a higher category, or 7 nights at a lower one? My usual redemption is a CAT 5, so I would not want to give up 2 free nights. If you were looking to redeem at a Cat 6 or Cat 7, and were only interested in 5 nights, your answer would be different then mine.

Not sure the point value comparison means a whole lot, unless I missed an official announcement in the merger news?

Jun 11, 2018, 12:39 pm

#3295

BearSmart

Join Date: Oct 2009

Location: YYC

Programs: SPG Gold, Emerald Club Executive, Hertz 5 Star

Posts: 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodeats21

It makes sense. Thanks!

Jun 11, 2018, 1:06 pm

#3296

carlitos

Join Date: Sep 2004

Location: The World!!!

Programs: Some of them not all ...

Posts: 1,532

Quote:

Originally Posted by BearSmart

Before I call Marriott to fix it, can anyone think of any advantage of keeping the 5-day package over the 7-day package?

Thanks

Wow, I would keep it. I used to redeem for 5 nights quite often, until they stop allowing me saying it was only for time share owners

As others said, I rarely stay more than 5 nights in one property, and when I do, it is because I have the 7 night travel package and usually pick a really good resort domestically, like the Hawaiian Properties.

Jun 11, 2018, 7:09 pm

#3297

Kalboz

Join Date: Sep 2007

Location: SNA/LAX

Programs: Hertz PC, Hilton DMD, IHG Spire Amb, Bonvoy Titanium Elite & WoH Globalist

Posts: 8,076

Here is what I got today from Marriott Rewards via Twitter:

Jun 11, 2018, 8:05 pm

#3298

davidsc111

Join Date: Apr 2013

Location: OGG

Programs: AA Plat, A List Pref, Marriott Ambassador

Posts: 356

Quote:

Originally Posted by BearSmart

It makes sense. Thanks!

Plus I bet you could upgrade it to a higher cat if you wanted and keep it at 5 nights...could be very useful under certain situations. You could likely downgrade it to a cat 1-5 and get the credit as well while keeping it a 5 day award.

Jun 11, 2018, 8:19 pm

#3299

joeags

Join Date: Sep 2012

Posts: 625

Quote:

Originally Posted by BearSmart

7 nights Category 5 (150,000 MR points via regular points redemption, with 5th night free), vs
5 nights Category 7 (140,000 MR points via regular points redemption, with 5th night free)

Before I call Marriott to fix it, can anyone think of any advantage of keeping the 5-day package over the 7-day package?

Thanks

Hold on, how many points were you charged for this redemption? You stated 270k at the top, which would mean that you were charged the 7 night package price. Or were you charged less?

If it cost 270k, definitely get them to correct this, as you paid for a 7 night package. Even if you intend to only use 5 nights it's handy to be able to book a day early for an early check in or use the last day for a late check-out.

If you were charged less, then it's a simple question whether you would use 2 extra nights or not.

Jun 11, 2018, 8:49 pm

#3300

Kacee

A FlyerTalk Posting Legend

Join Date: Apr 2013

Location: PHX

Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)

Posts: 56,467

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeags

Hold on, how many points were you charged for this redemption? You stated 270k at the top, which would mean that you were charged the 7 night package price.

That's not right. OP got a Cat 7 package. A seven night Cat 7 would be 330k points.

I also wish I could get a five night package. I never stay seven nights in one place.