jrcarmine56

I just recently switched from Hilton to Marriott in order to build up Marriott points but I am not having any luck with the quality of the non-full service hotels. Most of my stays are in the bay area and/or Sacramento. Can anyone help me with a list of quality non-full service Marriott hotels? I have stayed in the Courtyard in Silicon Valley and a couple of Fairfield inns in Sacramento and they are old and in bad condition.

When I stayed at Hilton’s I would usually stay at Hilton’s, Hilton Garden Inns, embassy suites, if that helps.

paul317

I stay at the Walnut Creek Marriott quite a bit for work; it's decent. Has a standard buffet breakfast, valet parking, and a concierge level. Waiting for the valets to retrieve the car can be a bit of a wait when the hotel is full with business travelers.

thnarf

San Jose Marriott is pretty nice.

BKKLEE

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...francisco.html

SIA747Megatop

Hi all,

I acknowledge that this has been covered many times in the past but was looking for a more recent opinion. I'll be in San Fran this August and as the Grand Hyatt is sold out I'm looking for some advice for other properties. I have no status with Marriott. The Marriott's stack up as follows:

Marriott Marquis $249
Marriott Union Square $309
JW Marriott Union Sq. $329

Based on my research the JW doesn't deserve its name however it still seems like the superior property of the 3 in SF. I don't know how the Marquis brand stacks up against the rest of the chain but this seems to be the weakest property of the three. Would my assumptions be right? I am equally willing to purchase 3 nights at any of the properties but is:

the Marriott Union Sq. worth the difference over the Marquis?

if so, is the JW worth the $20 extra over the Marriott Union Sq.?

I hope I have presented enough information for you guys to work with. I do not drive in the US so I won't have a car and I intend on being near Union Square for shopping. All three properties seem to satisfy this criteria. My usual price range is $200-$300 but I am willing to pay a bit more for a better product.

MTIA

tbm13

I don't think so. The Marquis is actually a very nice hotel. The only downside imho is that the lobby is very crowded and noisy. It's about a 10 minute walk to Union Square, so that shouldn't be a problem.

If you want to relax in the evening, the Marquis has a pool and a jacuzzi (unlike the other two hotels).

CJKatl

Price is always my guide when it comes to the four Marriott properties located close to Union Square. (You didn't include the Ren SC, but I will.) Given the Marquis is so much less expensive, it would be a no-brainer for me. If you are taking BART, you have the added advantage of being very close to the station and won't have to worry about walking up the hill. They are each good properties, and not that different from each other in level or quality. (FSs and Ren a little better than average, the JW a little less, to where they meet.)

It's like having to choose which car to take on the rental lot, with each being a Camry with the same engine and options. One is green, one is red, one is blue and one is white. Driving one of the other isn't really going to make a difference. If you can get a 25% discount if you drive the blue one, you will choose the blue one!

USirritated

If you need an airport hotel, or a cheap alternative to staying right in San Francisco, the Courtyard San Francisco Airport/Oyster Point Waterfront is a hotel I have stayed in several times, especially when I have an early morning connection to Asia or Hawaii, and it is a newer hotel, and IME, has always been very nice, especially for the money and convenience to SFO.

apodo77

At the Marriott Union Square in San Francisco and asked the FDC if breakfast coupons are available on the weekends (lounge closed) for platinum members.

He said unfortunately the answer is no and that Marriott leaves it up to each individual GM's to decide whether or not to provide breakfast coupons. He said the GM of the hotel has mentioned the occupancy rate is approximately 60-75% golds and platinums on the weekend with many being families who are "looking to feed their kids for free" so they decided against it.

No clue if any of it is true but was entertained by the lengthy, detailed response.

He did offer me an additional ammenity (selected a Sam Adams and cheese/fruit plate) for being a PP which was very kind and not expected. In addition he game me a bag full (8 bottles) of the 10oz Vasa waters for the remainder of the weekend.

mindrisa

Good to know. Definitely won't be staying there when I visit SFO. Either the Marquis or the JW it is!

recadna

Obviously cereals and waffles cost a lot in SF.

USirritated

Of course cereals and waffles do not cost a lot in SFO, or anywhere else. But if that hotel experiences 60-75% Gold and Plat traffic on the weekends, and decided to offer breakfast coupons, then that hotel's restaurant gross would drop more than 50% (most, but not all, of the restaurant traffic at most hotels is for breakfast, which is why 60-75% using coupons would not drop the gross in exactly the same percentage).

If you think in terms of a movie theater, where 20¢ in syrup turns into a $4.00 large cup of soda sold, breakfast at hotels is similar, $1-2 of wholesale food turns into a $19.95 breakfast buffet sold. The very high gross margin on breakfast, coupled with the VERY high Gold and Plat traffic, would probably turn that restaurant from a profitable cost center into an unprofitable cost center, certainly for the weekends, and possibly for the whole week.

apodo77

Looks like Hotel Adagio is joining the Marriott lineup in downtown San Francisco on 3/20/13.

Looks real nice and will be a category 7 for redemption.

https://www.marriott.com/hotels/trav...ph-collection/

The hotel website has a pop up about joining on 3/20/13 but not showing up on marriott.com for dates after that as of yet.

http://hoteladagiosf.com/

recadna

Perhaps we should send this memo to Hilton/SPG because they probably do not realize how harmful it is to provide free breakfasts in weekends.

USirritated

It looks like a very nice boutique hotel, and a welcome addition to the SFO choices.

It is on Marriott's site now, look here.