xooz

Does that mean that the hotels charging the sustainability fee allow actual hot water? Or do we pay extra for lukewarm..?

Emilia Stump

give them options, with temperate water

80

50


Luke warm

bitterproffit

If I stayed at different properties of a hotel chain over several weeks and found that none of them had hot water, I think I'd stop staying at that chain.

Polytonic

Meanwhile here I am finishing up a stay at a Renaissance where the water temperature was scalding hot. Faucet on cold setting, water is steaming. Shower handle halfway, water is steaming in the shower. I could probably cook instant noodles with how hot the water is here.

DELee

Polytonic soup! Yum!

David

azepine00

winter - pipes are colder in general - my shower at home feels colder on the very same max temp setting
if i were to stay for an extended period facing such issue i'd look into opening the regulator and adjusting the cartridge - a small hex key is all you usually need for that marriott dyi - can put nonrestricted showerhead for duration of stay while at it..

Jaimito Cartero

Isn’t it more likely that they turned the boiler temp down, rather than adjusting each shower?

azepine00

entirely possible but i doubt you can convince them to adjust boiler temp back up - my post carries some humor but in theory you can likely make that adjustment with a simple tool...

MSPeconomist

In MN, I notice that cold water is colder during winter and hot water takes longer to get hot when it's cold outside. OTOH, I've been in very hot places where the tap cold water feels lukewarm.

BRITINJAPAN4

And if all the hotels chains had lower temperature I would stop staying in hotels !

Did anyone actually ask the hotel ?

Eujeanie

We had some bathroom renovations done last year and the plumber said our HWH was set too high, that it had to be lower due to (city?state?county?) mandates. We tried the warm water for a few days, hated it, and had him turn it back up, but with the provision that we stated it was our personal decision and he advised us not to. It does get very hot when left in the highest position. Maybe hotels are afraid of liability from scalded customers?

The Road Goes On Forever

FWIW, each chain does have temperature guidelines that a property's hot water boilers should be set at. Ultimately it's up to the GM/Head Engineer what the settings are at but during a QA audit this type of thing is not looked at. IME, guests will ask to have the temperature turned up and usually that request is ignored because then you have other guests who will then complain about excessive heat. Anywhere I've worked, the temp is always kept on the low end of the acceptable operating range.

nmpls

120F is generally the recommended "safe" water temperature to prevent scalding, and is required by code in a lot of places. It wouldn't surprise me if hotel temps were more regulated either by local laws or insurance.
A huge number of hot water heaters are set at 140F though, so 120 may seem cold, particularly in colder weather if the pipes aren't well insulated. (As 120F is the temp at the source, not the shower head)

Global Adventurer

Almost ever hotel I've stayed at in the last year have scald proof water heater adjustments. None are hot but perfectly fine to take a shower. Your body doesn't like hot water believe it or not. It beats being almost scald to death at some guesthouses I've stayed at. So, I'm all for regulated water temperatures.

GUWonder

At the 200+ year-old log cabin in the European mountains which I stayed in earlier this month, the cold water was colder than the cold water running in houses and hotels in much colder places in MN and WI. But the hot water in the European mountain log cabin was hotter than the hot water ever is at the homes and hotels in what are typically much colder MN and WI. It depends on how the water is heated (and set and even used), how the water is supplied and sits, and how the piping is for even what aren't the leads/mains.

I have rarely encountered a Marriott hotel where the warm water wasn't warm enough for me to shower comfortably enough, but on busy mornings in some places I've definitely wished that the hotels had set the temperature higher up so that I could set the room's water to be a bit warmer for longer than it was.