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This thread refers to the various Marriott brands within a specific geographic area. Marriott Bonvoy hotels in XX usually have posts asking which property is better, etc. Trip reports are usually better suited in the property specific threads.
Marriott Bonvoy hotels in Cancun [Merged threads]
#856
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 5,825
We just returned from a five night stay at the JW. Let me preface this by saying I am very picky. We walked through the CM numerous times and ate at the restaurants at the CM several times as well. I think the CM lobby is actually a lot nicer. Don't know what the CM rooms look like, but the JW rooms are so-so. As a platinum, I didn't get any upgrade at all. We had a room for four, with two double beds, and they were so small. The balcony was almost nonexistent. The mattress was way too soft for my husband's back and he was sore most of the trip. We only ate at Sedona Grille at the JW, and ordered poolside for lunch from the Beachwalk. We did eat at Mikado, which was great, and Champs, which was just okay. Personally I don't think you're getting much more for your $ (or points) at JW. If I had it to do over, I probably would have chosen the CM and used the remaining points for Marriott gift cards that I could have put toward food. BTW, make sure to ask for coupons for the restaurants. They will hand you one "punch card" that you can use for dinner only at the restaurants, but they have 10% off coupons for every restaurant for any meal, but you have to ask for them from the concierge (ridiculous that a platinum member would have to go begging for coupons, but I digress).
I agree with you regarding Double Beds - they are way to small for my partner and I and this is the reason I would never book a room with them. (unless I am sleeping in one by myself!)
Which room type did you end up in? How was your view of the ocean?
Did your balcony have room for a table and chairs to sit outside and relax or eat?
Regarding room size: 467sf is not a huge room, but I would not call it tiny either... Maybe this sf included the balcony?
Ocean View, Guest room, 1 King or 2 Double, Ocean view, Balcony
Premium Ocean View, Guest room, 1 King or 2 Double, Premium Ocean view, Ocean view, Balcony
Club 91 Level, Club level, Guest room, 1 King or 2 Double, Premium Ocean view, Ocean view
Caribbean, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Ocean view, Ocean view, Balcony
Caribbean Club 91, Club level, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Ocean view
JW Luxury Suite, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Ocean view, Ocean view, Balcony
Grand Ocean Front, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Premium Ocean view, Balcony
Grand Ocean Club, Club level, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Oceanfront
#857
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: somewhere in F, hopefully
Posts: 670
What kind of upgrade were you hoping for? It is 'High Season' in the Cancun area right now - was the hotel at full capacity?
I agree with you regarding Double Beds - they are way to small for my partner and I and this is the reason I would never book a room with them. (unless I am sleeping in one by myself!)
Which room type did you end up in? How was your view of the ocean?
Did your balcony have room for a table and chairs to sit outside and relax or eat?
Regarding room size: 467sf is not a huge room, but I would not call it tiny either... Maybe this sf included the balcony?
Ocean View, Guest room, 1 King or 2 Double, Ocean view, Balcony
Premium Ocean View, Guest room, 1 King or 2 Double, Premium Ocean view, Ocean view, Balcony
Club 91 Level, Club level, Guest room, 1 King or 2 Double, Premium Ocean view, Ocean view
Caribbean, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Ocean view, Ocean view, Balcony
Caribbean Club 91, Club level, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Ocean view
JW Luxury Suite, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Ocean view, Ocean view, Balcony
Grand Ocean Front, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Premium Ocean view, Balcony
Grand Ocean Club, Club level, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Oceanfront
I agree with you regarding Double Beds - they are way to small for my partner and I and this is the reason I would never book a room with them. (unless I am sleeping in one by myself!)
Which room type did you end up in? How was your view of the ocean?
Did your balcony have room for a table and chairs to sit outside and relax or eat?
Regarding room size: 467sf is not a huge room, but I would not call it tiny either... Maybe this sf included the balcony?
Ocean View, Guest room, 1 King or 2 Double, Ocean view, Balcony
Premium Ocean View, Guest room, 1 King or 2 Double, Premium Ocean view, Ocean view, Balcony
Club 91 Level, Club level, Guest room, 1 King or 2 Double, Premium Ocean view, Ocean view
Caribbean, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Ocean view, Ocean view, Balcony
Caribbean Club 91, Club level, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Ocean view
JW Luxury Suite, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Ocean view, Ocean view, Balcony
Grand Ocean Front, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Premium Ocean view, Balcony
Grand Ocean Club, Club level, 1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Bathrooms: 1.5, Oceanfront
I have no idea what the square footage was or whether it included the balcony. It was the ocean view room. The balcony had two chairs and little side table, but you had to come out of the door sideways to get to the chair. And the railing was concrete from floor up about 3 feet, and then there was a wrought iron railing, so your view is obstructed a bit when sitting. I'm not even sure this is a standard size double bed. My son has a double bed, and this one seemed even smaller than the standard.
#858
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 5,825
Honestly I couldn't care less about upgrades or breakfast when I'm traveling on business. But when I'm on my annual vacation with my family, THAT is when I would really like to receive the perks that I'm supposed to get, and that NEVER happens! Seriously, five nights per year you can't pony up the perks?
I wish I could have the ability to flag one or two trips a year for a 'guaranteed' upgrade - For all of the other nights (me alone, shorter trips, etc.) I'll be happy with what I get!
Wait, doesn't Starwood have confirmed suite upgrades???
I have no idea what the square footage was or whether it included the balcony. It was the ocean view room. The balcony had two chairs and little side table, but you had to come out of the door sideways to get to the chair. And the railing was concrete from floor up about 3 feet, and then there was a wrought iron railing, so your view is obstructed a bit when sitting. I'm not even sure this is a standard size double bed. My son has a double bed, and this one seemed even smaller than the standard.
Now booked in an Ocean Front Suite at the Ritz - at 876 sqft it is a lot smaller than the suite we had booked at the JW... But still should be big enough for my partner and I. The kids have a separate room.
I know I can't count on an upgrade at the Ritz, so booked the rooms we want.
At the JW, if I could have been confident of an upgrade, I may have booked a lower level room. But we wanted to guarantee the room we wanted, the only way I know to do that is to book it...
I'll report back here on our trip to the Ritz! We're all looking forward to it.
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#859
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CMH
Programs: US Plat, HH Gold, Marriott Gold, National Exec.
Posts: 28
Marriott-family hotels in Cancun [Merged threads]
Thanks for the info on the JW. Marriott won't let us guarantee a bed type in Cancun (at least for points I'm willing to pay) and I'm not going to take an anniversary trip with my wife and risk being in two full beds. We opted to save the
200k points and stay at Sun Palace all inclusive.
200k points and stay at Sun Palace all inclusive.
#860
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 5,825
Thanks for the info on the JW. Marriott won't let us guarantee a bed type in Cancun (at least for points I'm willing to pay) and I'm not going to take an anniversary trip with my wife and risk being in two full beds. We opted to save the
200k points and stay at Sun Palace all inclusive.
200k points and stay at Sun Palace all inclusive.
What kind of rate were you able to get?
Have fun!
#863
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London
Programs: MUCCI; BAEC Lifetime Gold; Marriott Bonvoy Emeritus Titanium; Hertz#1, Avis President’s Club
Posts: 3,214
Not sure what property you are talking about but when I checked in as Gold for my Club 91 room last month they offered me an upgrade for cash, but I declined without asking how much. Maybe there were no other rooms available when you were there?
#864
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CMH
Programs: US Plat, HH Gold, Marriott Gold, National Exec.
Posts: 28
Thanks. We were able to get concierge level for $450/night with 2 massages and a 1500 resort credit included. We have stayed at Palace Resorts properties before, they are nice, the food isn't gourmet, buts its still good, and top shelf alcohol is included.
Hopefully we have better luck using Marriott points for our next vacation.
Hopefully we have better luck using Marriott points for our next vacation.
#865
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 71,113
I totally agree. We don't need yet another new thread to ask questions that have been answered again and again in the existing thread. And readers searching for information on Cancun Marriotts shouldn't have to open thread after thread after thread. It can and should be all in one place.
Bruce
Moderator
Bruce
Moderator
Agree & disagree. If a family thread is very outdated, then I think it would be ok to start a new thread re: a specific property. However, if a family thread does have recent updates (which this one does as NJ pointed out), then I agree that merging makes sense.
BTW - I still like the idea of looking at some of the family property threads, splitting the thread between old/new (ie, if one was started more than 4 years ago), lock down the old & start/keep the new (posts 4 years ago to present), as then someone doesn't have to read through really old posts that aren't valid to get newer information.
Cheers.
#866
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Winter Garden, FL
Programs: Delta DM-3MM United Gold-MM Marriott Lifetime Titanium Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 13,498
I understand your point, but it's just so easy to skip to the last page. Even the newest newbie can see that. Thus, a reader doesn't really have to read through (or even just scroll through) old posts at all, unless he or she wants to do that.
Bruce
Moderator
Bruce
Moderator
#867
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 71,113
Yes, but not everyone wants to start at last page & have to read backwards page by page to get info. Reading in reverse is not as easy as reading forward in chronological order, as it's the opposite of what we're taught & do in every day life.
But this is not specific to Cancun so I'll let it drop there.
Cheers.
#868
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 29
We are at Casa Magna right now. Reading multiple reviews of casa Magna and JW we were undecided which was better, so we booked standard rooms at both hotels ( cancel label by 6 pm on day of arrival). We did feel JW was better in GM's of ambience and pools, but we were able to negotiate a carribean suite at an upcharge of $59/night at Casa Magna, so essentially we are getting a1 bedroom suite at same price as a regular room at JW. Love the suite and hotel is pretty good too.. Love the Thai restaurant
#869
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Louisville, KY, USA
Posts: 2,583
When staying at the Casa Magna, can you use the JW facilities like the pools? Any limitations?
#870
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 29
We did not try using the pools, but I have heard that you can get a special permission to use them. Definitely JW pools are better, but we were satisfied with the one at Casa Magna. The Italian restaurant at JW was so so, the Tiramisu was wonderful.. loved the Thai place at Casa Magna and do get the breakfast included.. totally worth it especially since it can be a lunch substitute - (timing is 6AM-11:30AM)