Bluebird Shutdowns
Jan 14, 2016, 9:49 am
#467
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 10
The question for me is whether you can still load SMGCs to your BB account if you didn't get shut down. We literally just opened our BB accts last week and have never used them before.
I'm guessing we might be able to get away with it for a month/statement cycle and then will get nabbed, but am worried about whether they have nightly checks they run that will flag your account for closure. I guess time will tell... #newbie
I'm guessing we might be able to get away with it for a month/statement cycle and then will get nabbed, but am worried about whether they have nightly checks they run that will flag your account for closure. I guess time will tell... #newbie
Jan 14, 2016, 11:28 am
#469
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 21
Really? Do you load a lot per month? That makes me feel I shouldn't load GCs any more... Maybe I was just lucky on the last round of shut down.
Then how can I deal with the min spend requirement and GCs? I only need to temporarily liquidate $3000 period.
Then how can I deal with the min spend requirement and GCs? I only need to temporarily liquidate $3000 period.
Jan 14, 2016, 2:03 pm
#472
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 21
I was surprised to see that BB is being shut down, while I was about to MS to satisfy the min spend requirement of my Citi AA card. However, one data point I can contribute to this thread is that my BB has not been shut down so far. Maybe the following factors make my BB survive:
1. I only use BB to load VGC and then pay rent to my landlord. Note that I have never used BB to pay a CC or withdrawn to my bank accounts ever.
2. I haven't been using BB for a few recent months.
Can I still go through the routine 1 if I need to satisfy the min requirement for the bonus from my new Citi AA card? Thoughts?
1. I only use BB to load VGC and then pay rent to my landlord. Note that I have never used BB to pay a CC or withdrawn to my bank accounts ever.
2. I haven't been using BB for a few recent months.
Can I still go through the routine 1 if I need to satisfy the min requirement for the bonus from my new Citi AA card? Thoughts?
I forgot to mention that I have been using direct deposit to load money from my bank account. Maybe that contributed to my survival of BB... Anyone else can confirm this?
Update: from an anonymous dataset, I cannot tell what determines who got shut down and who have survived: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=219148618
Last edited by i2000s; Jan 14, 2016 at 3:14 pm
Jan 14, 2016, 3:33 pm
#473
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,832
Update: from an anonymous dataset, I cannot tell what determines who got shut down and who have survived: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=219148618
Jan 14, 2016, 4:13 pm
#474
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,688
at this point, I have not seen a pattern anywhere on shutdowns, I treat it as anyone's ballgame.
Jan 14, 2016, 4:53 pm
#475
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 21
PS.: Maybe the secret is the "unusual pattern" which can be hardly visualized through current dataset. But I personally don't think I have a typical MS pattern in my account history. I am not sure if this distinguishes others as well... Let us share some insights to survive this game.
Last edited by i2000s; Jan 14, 2016 at 5:25 pm
Jan 14, 2016, 7:18 pm
#476
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,677
Jan 14, 2016, 7:24 pm
#477
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 76
I haven't read all 32 pages but I did not receive an email from AmEx about the BB account and I actually use BB, not for MS. However, when attempting to load via kiosk or csr, I'm getting 'debit not approved call authorizer'. Called AmEx, explained to csr the problem, after a lengthy wait, they claim nothing has changed on the account, account is in good standing, all systems are up, no known delays ets etc. and to wait 2 hours before trying again.
Jan 14, 2016, 7:31 pm
#478
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Jan 15, 2016, 4:10 am
#479
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: US CP, DL GM, AA Plat
Posts: 729
Police will actually go after you for this. There have been people that have gone to jail for "accidentally" writing the wrong SSN on hospital forms in order to avoid paying. The hospital can tell because they look up your SSN and see the name doesn't match.
Jan 15, 2016, 6:47 am
#480
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,207
Theres a world of difference between the two, incase you cant piece that together. But it doesn't matter anyway because amex does confirm before approving and will deny the new card without the correct ssn.