May 29, 2014, 7:43 pm
Last edit by: prasha11
Does not work anymore, is dead..... what is the point to report 'not working'?
As of 08/25/2014, Bancorp cards (Vanilla Visa, OneVanilla, etc.) are rarely working first try for debit transactions at Walmart. There is no apparent geographical basis. Basically, it's a crapshoot.
Do not agitate a cashier or store and lose the ability to make these transactions in the future. Multiple failed swipes or transactions will likely increase scrutiny. You do not want that. It is best to stop using these cards.
Vanilla VISA defaulting to credit
As of 5/29/2014, at most Walmart locations, all Vanilla VISA cards issued by The Bancorp Bank are automatically recognized as credit. Most Mastercard have required a workaround for some time. The MoneyCenter Express (ATM, kiosk, Kate) is not affected by this change.
As of 08/25/2014, Bancorp cards (Vanilla Visa, OneVanilla, etc.) are rarely working first try for debit transactions at Walmart. There is no apparent geographical basis. Basically, it's a crapshoot.
Do not agitate a cashier or store and lose the ability to make these transactions in the future. Multiple failed swipes or transactions will likely increase scrutiny. You do not want that. It is best to stop using these cards.
Vanilla VISA defaulting to credit
As of 5/29/2014, at most Walmart locations, all Vanilla VISA cards issued by The Bancorp Bank are automatically recognized as credit. Most Mastercard have required a workaround for some time. The MoneyCenter Express (ATM, kiosk, Kate) is not affected by this change.
MO Purchases using OV @ WM
Jun 5, 2014, 8:48 am
#646
Join Date: May 2002
Location: St Louis, MO
Programs: AA L.T. PLT
Posts: 3,298
Jun 5, 2014, 9:18 am
#647
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: PHL
Posts: 930
Maybe you will be able to use your real debit card again. Just hand them the card. Obviously there is no name on it, if he denies it just walk out. Why would you use your real debit card? You have nothing to lose by walking out. Now you lost $1K for the month to load.
Jun 5, 2014, 9:21 am
#648
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,025
No, it doesn't. It only shows that Madison is a good place for MSing. Your "circles and arrows", "mindless sheep", etc. is merely a confabulation. People have different ways of understanding things and I see nothing intrinsically wrong with learning by circles and arrows or step-by-step. They are no less worthy of profiting by MS than any of us -- none of us deserve this, we merely take advantage because it's possible to do so.
At least that is what I am told usually from the most useless posters here.
Jun 5, 2014, 9:23 am
#649
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 647
Because if he gives the WM employee the OV, the WM employee might get confused and call over a manager, which could result in game over. I can no longer go to this one WM because of something like this. I was asked for the card, so I gave the OV. The employee called a manager, who then told the employee to not accept OVs and told me to not try this again because all of the employees would now be informed. Better safe than sorry...
where do you live?
Jun 5, 2014, 9:29 am
#650
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 571
It frustrates me when people want to broadcast information to the world that, if taken up by the receivers, would quickly result in things being shutdown. If people want to get into MSing, fine, great, it's up to them. The information and people they need are on this forum for them to cultivate. Remember: personal initiative, mutuality, and sustainability. Acronym: PMS
Jun 5, 2014, 9:31 am
#652
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Upstate
Programs: HH Diamond-IHG Plat-AA Gold
Posts: 215
Because if he gives the WM employee the OV, the WM employee might get confused and call over a manager, which could result in game over. I can no longer go to this one WM because of something like this. I was asked for the card, so I gave the OV. The employee called a manager, who then told the employee to not accept OVs and told me to not try this again because all of the employees would now be informed. Better safe than sorry...
I was blindsided by the no OV thing the other day and (to avoid looking shady) ended up having to hand over the OV to two different clerks. Niether called a manger, and neither even batted an eye. After one unsuccessful swipe, the first clerk at a register even tried manually typing in the OV card number, saying "sometimes doing it this way makes it work." And when that didn't work, he apologized and suggested I try to swipe it at the CS desk. At the CS desk, after the first (and only) unsuccessful attempt, the clerk asked to see the card. Again, no choice, but to show it. This time the reply I got was "oh, those aren't bank cards; they don't always work. If you use your bank card, it always works." [WTH!]
Obiously, can't be stated strongly enough how much YMMV from place to place on this.
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Jun 5, 2014, 9:43 am
#653
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, WI, USA
Posts: 14,162
It frustrates me when people want to broadcast information to the world that, if taken up by the receivers, would quickly result in things being shutdown. If people want to get into MSing, fine, great, it's up to them. The information and people they need are on this forum for them to cultivate. Remember: personal initiative, mutuality, and sustainability. Acronym: PMS
Stop worrying about shutdowns -- just take advantage while you can and move on to something else when you can't. Why be frustrated? You're ahead of the game.
Jun 5, 2014, 9:56 am
#654
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: MSN
Programs: AA Plat 1MM, HH GLD, Hyatt Diamond, SPG GLD
Posts: 325
No, it doesn't. It only shows that Madison is a good place for MSing. Your "circles and arrows", "mindless sheep", etc. is merely a confabulation. People have different ways of understanding things and I see nothing intrinsically wrong with learning by circles and arrows or step-by-step. They are no less worthy of profiting by MS than any of us -- none of us deserve this, we merely take advantage because it's possible to do so.
I don't take the ability to MS as a right, it's an arbitrage opportunity. Once an arbitrage opportunity becomes commonly used, it eventually goes away. We will either then switch to less lucrative opportunities, or find new ones.
Jun 5, 2014, 10:01 am
#655
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, WI, USA
Posts: 14,162
Sorry, I have to partially disagree. If a person can't figure out how to hit the "change payment" button when it comes up, I question their problem solving skills. IMO, anything that makes is hard for a portion of people to figure out how to MS, makes it better for the rest of us and keeps this alive longer.
I don't take the ability to MS as a right, it's an arbitrage opportunity. Once an arbitrage opportunity becomes commonly used, it eventually goes away. We will either then switch to less lucrative opportunities, or find new ones.
I don't take the ability to MS as a right, it's an arbitrage opportunity. Once an arbitrage opportunity becomes commonly used, it eventually goes away. We will either then switch to less lucrative opportunities, or find new ones.
Jun 5, 2014, 10:17 am
#656
Join Date: May 2014
Location: LAX
Programs: AA, UA, DL, NSA, CIA, MIB
Posts: 537
Went by the nearest WM last night only to find the same 2 clerks I had to deal with the night before, at closing time. I didn't even bother getting into the line, left and will circle back this weekend.
*side note* I actually don't mind standing in line at that WM the characters in line are really amusing to watch and I counted 6 women with false eyelashes of various lenghts, 2 other people smelled of booze, one woman had the longest nails all painted and be-dazzled with different things even her big toe nail was encrusted with something sparkly. I learned that a 6 YO kid with an iPad could call their mom in line from a made up number. And that was just 1 visit!
*side note* I actually don't mind standing in line at that WM the characters in line are really amusing to watch and I counted 6 women with false eyelashes of various lenghts, 2 other people smelled of booze, one woman had the longest nails all painted and be-dazzled with different things even her big toe nail was encrusted with something sparkly. I learned that a 6 YO kid with an iPad could call their mom in line from a made up number. And that was just 1 visit!
Jun 5, 2014, 10:21 am
#657
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: MSN
Programs: AA Plat 1MM, HH GLD, Hyatt Diamond, SPG GLD
Posts: 325
I like reading and figuring out the Trick it / negotiate it / special savings thread, it's like a really complex puzzle.
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Jun 5, 2014, 10:33 am
#658
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, WI, USA
Posts: 14,162
In actuality a very rarely ask for help, my job depends on me being able to research complex problems and solve them. It is the reason I am pretty successful, a little intellectual curiosity goes a long way.
I like reading and figuring out the Trick it / negotiate it / special savings thread, it's like a really complex puzzle.
I like reading and figuring out the Trick it / negotiate it / special savings thread, it's like a really complex puzzle.
Jun 5, 2014, 10:44 am
#659
Join Date: May 2010
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Gold, HH Diamond
Posts: 174
In actuality a very rarely ask for help, my job depends on me being able to research complex problems and solve them. It is the reason I am pretty successful, a little intellectual curiosity goes a long way.
I like reading and figuring out the Trick it / negotiate it / special savings thread, it's like a really complex puzzle.
I like reading and figuring out the Trick it / negotiate it / special savings thread, it's like a really complex puzzle.
Jun 5, 2014, 10:46 am
#660
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
Just went to my normal WM to load two BBs. I usually go to a register first for one and then the MC for the other.
For the first time ever I was asked to show an ID that he used to match up with the BB. Luckily I had used the one with my name on it. Then when I told him I wanted to pay with debit he asked me to give it to him to swipe. I said "I normally swipe it on the terminal right here" and he said he needs to match it to my ID. I didn't push it any further. I let him pull the $1000 from my real checking and left the store.
Not a good sign... I'm going to go back tomorrow and try again and see what happens...
For the first time ever I was asked to show an ID that he used to match up with the BB. Luckily I had used the one with my name on it. Then when I told him I wanted to pay with debit he asked me to give it to him to swipe. I said "I normally swipe it on the terminal right here" and he said he needs to match it to my ID. I didn't push it any further. I let him pull the $1000 from my real checking and left the store.
Not a good sign... I'm going to go back tomorrow and try again and see what happens...