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Old Apr 9, 2014, 10:37 pm
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2/25/2015 - Single payment limit raised to $2999 when using credit or debit cards. Maximum payments per calendar month per individual biller account raised from 1 to 4.

2/18/2015 - Beginning next week, certain debit cards from smaller banks, as well as prepaid debit cards and gift cards will be subject to a 3 percent Bill Pay Fee on each payment.

Evolve now accepts Discover, Visa and Mastercard credit cards with 3% fee.


Debit Cards Not Charged the 3% Fee:
  • Insert here
  • US Bank (but not prepaid)



Transaction Limits:
http://www.evolvemoney.com/transaction-limits/

Daily dollar limits include:
  • $2,999.00 in payments funded by a debit card and/or credit card
  • $999.00 in payments funded by a cash load pack

Individual bill pay dollar limits include:
  • $2999.00 for a single bill funded by a debit card and/or credit card
  • $999.00 for a single bill funded by a cash load pack

Monthly payment limits include:
  • 4 payments per month using a credit or debit card within the dollar limits listed above.
  • Unlimited number of payments per month using a cash load pack within the dollar limits listed above.
  • Maximum of $10,000 total payments per month for credit, debit, and cash load packs combined.

The limits are based on charge date, not payment date.

There are currently no credit cards that can be paid via Evolve.


Tips for Using Evolve
  • No need to register your debit card
  • If your transaction does not go through, you will have to wait for the authorization to fall off your card
  • Using multiple Evolve accounts paying the same biller may lead to your biller being permanently blocked
  • If using GCs with the new scheduling feature, it is important to schedule in such a way that it says your card will be charged today (not on a future date) to prevent a decline; and if you want to avoid the Express Pay fee this also means typically scheduling a few days out (click each date to find one without the fee but still charges your card today).


Mortgages Section
Let us know if payments auto apply to principal or if you have to call

Bank of America: After making 4 payments over the weekend you MUST call (or use online banking messaging) to allocate funds to the regular payment - by default it goes to principal.

Central Mortgage: Appears to go to additional principal payment. YMMV

Chase: Payments with JPMorgan have to fall within a ~5-day window in order for them to be unallocated, otherwise they go to principal. Your window depends on the billing date (usually the 1st of the month). If so, the window is until the 5th, so using Evolve, you have to allow for the payment to post and have it post between ~the 1st and the 5th. PITA

Citi: Made two payments near the end of the month and these were originally "unapplied" and labeled as "additional funds received". A day or two afterwards they moved to principal payments. A quick call to Citi had the payments moved from principal to make up my monthly mortgage payment.

Nationstar Mortgage: Payment applied as an "Additional principal payment" if you sent before the 1st of the month. If you pay after the first, the payment is held until you submit the full payment amount, and then the whole thing is applied to your monthly payment.

PNC: Partial payments will be held aside until payment in full is made. They will send a letter.

Provident Funding: Does not accept partial payments. After month's mortgage is paid, accepts Evolve a additional principal payments.

US Bank: Made 4 payments in June; after a couple of days, payments moved from principal payment to applying to monthly payment w/o a call

Wells Fargo: Two $500 payments day 1, One $500 payment day 2 going over the actual mortgage payment amount due. The payment automatically combined itself to pay the exact amount due once the Third hit. Any amount that was overpaid subsequently went towards principal. Nice to not have to send in the Exact amount, if you don't mind paying some extra principal.


"If you have any problems with gift cards please send us an email at support [at] evolvemoney.com" [Source: AlexAtEvolveMoney]
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by BillyFlyer
When I look at the Visa GoWallet transaction history, the decline error code I see is "Recurring/Installment restriction".

Are the MetaBank VGC's now declining "recurring" billings ?
Not sure why Evolve would configure the payment as Recurring in the first place, but recurring payment configuration fails to authorize against most Gift Cards.
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades
Not sure why Evolve would configure the payment as Recurring in the first place, but recurring payment configuration fails to authorize against most Gift Cards.
There is wording on Evolve site warning about not scheduling payments more than 2 days out if using gift card.
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by givingitatry
There is wording on Evolve site warning about not scheduling payments more than 2 days out if using gift card.
Yeah but if you schedule for the next day it still fails with the recurring error. Same day might work, but evolve charges a rush fee.

Anyone have a solution to this?
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 11:39 am
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Man, their new website layout just causes lots of problems for me. Did they reprogram in Flash or something?
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 6:08 pm
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Thumbs down

I just tried paying DirecTV and found out through multiple tries and a support case that I am no longer allowed to use a gift card to pay my bill. This essentially neuters the usage of Evolve Money.

In this thread I read Alex from Evolve Money stated that they are committed to using Gift Cards and Prepaid Cards for bill payment.

Where's the support? What's the point of these changes other than to drive people away.

Upgrade my a$$. This was a big downgrade for customers.

I'll be looking elsewhere.

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Old Jul 25, 2014, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by iOverPaid
I just tried paying DirecTV and found out through multiple tries and a support case that I am no longer allowed to use a gift card to pay my bill. This essentially neuters the usage of Evolve Money.

In this thread I read Alex from Evolve Money stated that they are committed to using Gift Cards and Prepaid Cards for bill payment.

Where's the support? What's the point of these changes other than to drive people away.

Upgrade my a$$. This was a big downgrade for customers.

I'll be looking elsewhere.

Which gift card? All billers, or just DirecTV?
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by iOverPaid
Upgrade my a$$
Is that an invitation ?
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 7:24 pm
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Utility bills changed from 2 days to Express

I have been paying utility bills for many months using Evolve money. Now I notice that some of my utility bills are automatically changed from 2 days to express. There is no 2 days- no fee option anymore.

I will delete the biller and avoid Evolve money if I am forced to pay $1.50.

It does not make sense to pay $1.50 to pay a $14 water reclamation bill. I will as well pay using bill pay from bank checking account
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by BillyFlyer
I tried paying a bill I've successfully paid before (utility bill) using the MetaBank VGC from Staples. I scheduled it to be paid the next day. Evolve sent me a message about the payment failure. When I look at the Visa GoWallet transaction history, the decline error code I see is "Recurring/Installment restriction".

Are the MetaBank VGC's now declining "recurring" billings?
The same thing just happened to me! Ugh! I have an authorization amount pending and I was given the same reason "Recurring/Installment restriction".

I used the same gc from staples.
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by iOverPaid
I just tried paying DirecTV and found out through multiple tries and a support case that I am no longer allowed to use a gift card to pay my bill. This essentially neuters the usage of Evolve Money.

In this thread I read Alex from Evolve Money stated that they are committed to using Gift Cards and Prepaid Cards for bill payment.

Where's the support? What's the point of these changes other than to drive people away.

Upgrade my a$$. This was a big downgrade for customers.

I'll be looking elsewhere.

You do not need Evolve to pay Directtv. Pay directly with a credit card. Use evolve only for those that cannot be paid with a credit card.
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Old Jul 25, 2014, 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by worldtravels
You do not need Evolve to pay Directtv. Pay directly with a credit card. Use evolve only for those that cannot be paid with a credit card.
Well, there are some uses for Evolve even if the biller accepts a credit card payment without a fee. For example, if you're buying VGC at a store with a category bonus you can come out ahead versus paying a biller by credit card directly at 1x.
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Old Jul 26, 2014, 12:32 am
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Originally Posted by Majuki
Well, there are some uses for Evolve even if the biller accepts a credit card payment without a fee. For example, if you're buying VGC at a store with a category bonus you can come out ahead versus paying a biller by credit card directly at 1x.
Good point.
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Old Jul 26, 2014, 6:04 am
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Originally Posted by Majuki
Well, there are some uses for Evolve even if the biller accepts a credit card payment without a fee. For example, if you're buying VGC at a store with a category bonus you can come out ahead versus paying a biller by credit card directly at 1x.
But if you have an ink card aren't you getting 5x?
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Old Jul 26, 2014, 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by ibleed0range
But if you have an ink card aren't you getting 5x?
That assumes everyone has the Ink card. There are other options too.
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Old Jul 26, 2014, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by Majuki
That assumes everyone has the Ink card. There are other options too.
Personally I think it is safe to assume any serious MSer has many Ink cards
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