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brc01 Feb 6, 2014 2:15 pm


Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22299601)
I plan to start purchasing reloads to apply to my account, transfer to my spouse's account, and then withdraw to bank account. (May mix in some regular spend on the PP MC as well).

That will definitely get you (spouse's acct) shut down quickly.


Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22299601)
My question is whether there is any evidence that VR or PP reloads are safer than the other for loading the account up in the first place?

I don't think so. I think bank withdrawals are the red flag.


Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22299601)
Also, is the $4,000 per 30 day limit per reload type, or per account? I ask, because I've seen references in this thread to people loading $8k in a 30 day cycle.

Per account. 8K comes from 4K personal account + 4K business account.

aGeist Feb 6, 2014 2:21 pm


Originally Posted by ericdabbs (Post 22299694)
Are you sure the card is activated from the store? Also is your PP account set up to accept PP Cash cards?

I can't see how it wouldn't be... Yeah I have the receipts it appears to be active... It's just a generic error, I don't even think support knows what it means.

pier11 Feb 6, 2014 2:32 pm

I transfer cashback portals' payments to my bank account in exact same amount immediately... Not excessively big amounts though.

It's written in PP payment notification email that I can withdraw to bank account among other options...

sk8uno Feb 6, 2014 3:28 pm


Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22299601)
I plan to start purchasing reloads to apply to my account, transfer to my spouse's account, and then withdraw to bank account. (May mix in some regular spend on the PP MC as well).


Originally Posted by brc01 (Post 22300155)
That will definitely get you (spouse's acct) shut down quickly.

This will not get you shut down quickly. Loading and then withdrawing to your own account will get you shut down quickly, but loading, transferring to another paypal account, and then withdrawing will not get you shut down, generally.

ericdabbs Feb 6, 2014 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by aGeist (Post 22300185)
I can't see how it wouldn't be... Yeah I have the receipts it appears to be active... It's just a generic error, I don't even think support knows what it means.

I have probably loaded 5 Paypal Cash reloads ever but I haven't experienced an issue in loading it. Since you said you only tried loading $500 it wasn't like you were trying to load more than $500 limit.

So have you tried calling the phone number on the back of paypal cash card to verify if the $500 balance is still there? Your receipt should be clear as day if it is activated it or not. It will say <last few digits of bar code> ACTIVATED on the CVS receipt.

groundhog Feb 6, 2014 4:40 pm


Originally Posted by ericdabbs (Post 22299662)
People that say they load $8K for Paypal is because you can have 2 PP accounts. One Personal and one Premier/Business and max out on both. However this is very risky and not worth it. If you care at all about your Paypal accounts since they are tied to your SSN, you do not want to draw a lot of attention by depositing and withdrawing to bank accounts.

Why do you think that having 2 PP accounts is risky?
I noticed that business account is not linked to SSN.

js80 Feb 6, 2014 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22299601)
I plan to start purchasing reloads to apply to my account, transfer to my spouse's account, and then withdraw to bank account. (May mix in some regular spend on the PP MC as well). My question is whether there is any evidence that VR or PP reloads are safer than the other for loading the account up in the first place?

Also, is the $4,000 per 30 day limit per reload type, or per account? I ask, because I've seen references in this thread to people loading $8k in a 30 day cycle.

Thanks to those who responded to my question. For now I'll just be doing one account for each of me and my spouse, and sending in only one direction. So $4k/30 days max for me. If it goes well, perhaps I'll add a second account. I'm aware of the risks PP presents, but gonna give it a try anyway.

If I do get adverse action from PP, any thoughts as to which account is more likely to get warned or shut down -- the sending or receiving account?

rgar7 Feb 6, 2014 11:41 pm


Originally Posted by ericdabbs (Post 22299724)
So you tried withdrawing $500/day for 3 days in a row? RED FLAG RED FLAG RED FLAG!! Wow that is not a smart move. How many MP's do you have left and why do you have to use PP to do this?

No I loaded $500, let it sit for a day or 2 and then withdrew at an atm. I then waited a few days before repeating. I decided to try the MJ card since it was issued by One West Bank, not any of the normal banks that offer these prepaid cards. They seemed to be hyper sensitive though and shut me down after loading the third MP in about 2 weeks. I have 3 MP left and figured I'd use PP because I already have an account and don't have to wait to open another card that will unload the MP for me.

Just to clarify, I was shut down by One West Bank, not by Green Dot as far as I can tell. The first MP loaded just fine to my PP account this morning. I'll wait a few days before I either transfer it out or buy a money order with my PP debit card.

ericdabbs Feb 7, 2014 12:25 am


Originally Posted by groundhog (Post 22300975)
Why do you think that having 2 PP accounts is risky?
I noticed that business account is not linked to SSN.

I meant maxing out both PP accounts all the time. Not that having 2 PP accounts is risky. I can see how this could have be misconstrued.

WhateverDude Feb 7, 2014 5:58 am


Originally Posted by js80 (Post 22299601)
Also, is the $4,000 per 30 day limit per reload type, or per account? I ask, because I've seen references in this thread to people loading $8k in a 30 day cycle.


Originally Posted by brc01 (Post 22300155)

Per account. 8K comes from 4K personal account + 4K business account.

If those people are referring to the Paypal Business Debit Mastercard (and not the Paypal Prepaid Mastercard), then you can theoretically load $4K/month with Paypal MyCash cards, and $4K/month with GD MPs. I don't have any experience with the latter load method though.

js80 Feb 7, 2014 7:59 am


Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 22303740)
If those people are referring to the Paypal Business Debit Mastercard (and not the Paypal Prepaid Mastercard), then you can theoretically load $4K/month with Paypal MyCash cards, and $4K/month with GD MPs. I don't have any experience with the latter load method though.

Ah, that must be it. I don't have access to GD MPs via CC, so not an option for me anyway.

ma91pmh Feb 7, 2014 10:06 am

Bugger. Just got my Paypal Prepaid Mastercard shutdown. It had just over $1k left on it. They are saying they will send me a check within 20 business days but I have already filed a complaint with the FDIC so hopefully will come quicker.

Why can't all these prepaid just be like BB? :(

WhateverDude Feb 7, 2014 10:40 am


Originally Posted by ma91pmh (Post 22304982)
Bugger. Just got my Paypal Prepaid Mastercard shutdown. It had just over $1k left on it. They are saying they will send me a check within 20 business days but I have already filed a complaint with the FDIC so hopefully will come quicker.

Why can't all these prepaid just be like BB? :(

I've been waiting for my $28 for 26 business days.

sk8uno Feb 7, 2014 11:42 am


Originally Posted by ma91pmh (Post 22304982)
Bugger. Just got my Paypal Prepaid Mastercard shutdown. It had just over $1k left on it. They are saying they will send me a check within 20 business days but I have already filed a complaint with the FDIC so hopefully will come quicker.

Why can't all these prepaid just be like BB? :(

Care to elaborate on the circumstances that got you shut down? And this was the regular Mastercard, right? Not the business debit mc?

ma91pmh Feb 7, 2014 12:14 pm


Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 22305202)
I've been waiting for my $28 for 26 business days.

Hence the FDIC complaint right off the bat. Should see it move along quicker


Originally Posted by sk8uno (Post 22305570)
Care to elaborate on the circumstances that got you shut down? And this was the regular Mastercard, right? Not the business debit mc?

Sure, just the regular Mastercard correct, loaded ~$7k, drained ~6k mix of MO and BP all at WM. I noticed mint.com wasn't able to update the account which triggered off the suspicion.


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