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Nelumbo Nov 8, 2013 9:06 am

You bet.

Originally Posted by makinbutter (Post 21749999)
same card that had the trouble yesterday?


TTT103 Nov 8, 2013 9:41 am

Thank everyone for your responses. :p

makinbutter Nov 8, 2013 9:49 am


Originally Posted by Nelumbo (Post 21750107)
You bet.

you're the man. many thanks.

zenride Nov 8, 2013 10:53 am


Originally Posted by craz (Post 21749860)
Can you load the temp card when you order it online? If not then theres no fee at CV since you can load the temp for $500 as if it was a VR. Do they give you your temp # when its done online? with the temp card from CV you can load VRs once you registered the temp and need not wait til the reg card arrives

Ive only gotten mine @ CV and loaded $500 each time

There is no temp card when you order online. You can see the last four #'s of the permanent card that is being sent but have to wait for it to come before you can activate and load it.

TTT103 Nov 8, 2013 11:07 am

Ok, so given my enthusiasm I just ran out to CVS to pick up a card. I registered it on-line, but am I permitted to use it at an ATM, or must I wait for the permanent card? Should I also hold off on debit card money order purchases until the permanent card arrives?

craz Nov 8, 2013 11:42 am


Originally Posted by zenride (Post 21750706)
There is no temp card when you order online. You can see the last four #'s of the permanent card that is being sent but have to wait for it to come before you can activate and load it.

What I thought and tahst why the $3.95 for the temp card isnt a fee, its the amount youd pay for any VR card. But by buying it at CV you can start to load it with VRs waiting for the permanent card to arrive. Wonder if you can get MOs , as alot of folks never ask for the MVD to check the name so theyd never know it was nameless. CAing wont work as the tellers do check names to make sure its yours

craz Nov 8, 2013 11:46 am


Originally Posted by TTT103 (Post 21750805)
Ok, so given my enthusiasm I just ran out to CVS to pick up a card. I registered it on-line, but am I permitted to use it at an ATM, or must I wait for the permanent card? Should I also hold off on debit card money order purchases until the permanent card arrives?

why would you use it at an ATM??? I believe its still a $1.95 fee for what $400 at max. CAing Ive done $5k for that same $1.95. I think you can get MOs as long as the person doesnt ask for the card and pic ID, since the temp doesnt have a name on it they may decline the MO purchase. That said I dont know if a temp card is blocked my MVD for usage since the strip on back might not be activated for use. At least you can load it up waiting for the permanent card to arrive

TTT103 Nov 8, 2013 12:41 pm


Originally Posted by craz (Post 21751061)
why would you use it at an ATM??? I believe its still a $1.95 fee for what $400 at max. CAing Ive done $5k for that same $1.95. I think you can get MOs as long as the person doesnt ask for the card and pic ID, since the temp doesnt have a name on it they may decline the MO purchase. That said I dont know if a temp card is blocked my MVD for usage since the strip on back might not be activated for use. At least you can load it up waiting for the permanent card to arrive

Excellent advice!

prasha11 Nov 8, 2013 2:19 pm


Originally Posted by craz (Post 21745875)
they will cut you a check and deduct $9.95 thats their fee for a check. Just call they will read you the riot act and reopen yur acct for 48 hrs , so that you can unload it. Depending how much you have in it decide either to hit say Wally for MOs or do 1 CA that is $1.95 at your bank

I faxed twice the reqd docs. (I don't think they should need anything from me to release my funds.) They say they have not recd it, so I asked them to close the account and mail me the check. I am told will take 4/6 weeks, that is too long, I don't trust. I am thinking of filling a complaint with the OCC now, ....

Happy Nov 8, 2013 6:21 pm


Originally Posted by Lemma (Post 21748502)
I don't know why you think it makes no difference whether you CA or not. No one knows what exactly triggers a shutdown, and it may vary ("our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise"), but I've read most of the posts in this thread and it seems that a common element between everyone who got shut down is cash advances. Some people get away with larger amounts for a longer period of time, some are shut down faster. But they all liquidated the funds they loaded by CA. And unlike MO purchases where there's no easy way for them to know what you bought at WM or the grocery store, it's trivial for them to write an algorithm which looks for people who just load the cards and cash advance the funds out. As I told Barry2013, I'd be very interested to see an example of someone who got shut down for only MO purchases.

Because I have not bought a single MO or anything else. Straight CA all along and not in small number but also not in max allowed. Fund never sits there longer than needed - you still need a few days since there is a day limit to load. Just did one today matter of fact.

Also I am not the only one with this pattern. There are enough number of people who never buy a single MO and not being shut down. They just dont care to talk about it in the forum.

I think you are kidding yourself that they do not know what you are doing at WM unless you are doing MOs in very varying amount and below $950 each. Anything above $900 regardless how you try to disguise it by dollar and cents, they know what you are doing. You sure are not buying TVs and Computers and Sports goods that add up to the $900+ many times a week...

Happy Nov 8, 2013 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by craz (Post 21751061)
why would you use it at an ATM??? I believe its still a $1.95 fee for what $400 at max. CAing Ive done $5k for that same $1.95. I think you can get MOs as long as the person doesnt ask for the card and pic ID, since the temp doesnt have a name on it they may decline the MO purchase. That said I dont know if a temp card is blocked my MVD for usage since the strip on back might not be activated for use. At least you can load it up waiting for the permanent card to arrive

Dont know about PIN transaction on Temp card as I have never done any PIN transaction on MVD. However temp card can do CA if your bank lets you. I have done several K's CA on my temp card with my local branch before the perm card arrived. Others I know also have done CA on their temp cards before. It all depends on how your bank trust you or not. If you have an account with the bank and is a regular, the CA goes right back to your account, they would do it.

Happy Nov 8, 2013 6:36 pm


Originally Posted by craz (Post 21749860)
Can you load the temp card when you order it online? If not then theres no fee at CV since you can load the temp for $500 as if it was a VR. Do they give you your temp # when its done online? with the temp card from CV you can load VRs once you registered the temp and need not wait til the reg card arrives

Ive only gotten mine @ CV and loaded $500 each time

No. The perm card is an empty card. You cannot load it when you order it online. You cannot do anything with the perm card until it arrives and activated.

Your analysis on the "fee" of the temp card is spot on. It is no different from buying a VR. Same cost to put $500 on it.

When I got mine I ordered the perm card online but it did not arrive after 2 weeks waiting so I went ahead to get a temp card and registered it online. I was already did a CA of a few K's on the temp card when the 1st perm card and the perm card to replace the temp card arrived at the same time.

Happy Nov 8, 2013 8:24 pm

FYI
 
It used to be CA shows as Pending, and $1.95 not shows up until next day.

I just notice that both CA and $1.95 are not pending any more. They are both as posted debits when I checked a few hours after CA.

So those of you trying to do the Temp card $500, you need to leave the fee on the card as the fee would be deducted as part of the transaction. You would be a fool to think you can get $500 out and let Incomm eat the fee, or if you intend to drain out your card and be done with it, you would need to leave the fee on the account - else your transaction would be declined.

makinbutter Nov 9, 2013 11:36 am

Was able to CA today with no problem. Thanks for the updates, friends.

zozeppelin Nov 9, 2013 12:21 pm

I am aware of one merchant of the washington flavor that has 2.99 cards, but sadly does not accept amex. The death of CGC has left a hole in my MS and I am starting to ramp on AMEXGC, but sadly those are amex. That is the most efficient (time + cost) way I could think to pull the money off the AMEXGC ([2.99 + 0.50] x2 + 0.70 per 1k, which barely beats VR and doesn't have the cap per month) and doesn't have the lag of GCM. If someone is aware of other reduced fee MVD card locations, and willing to share, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks.


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