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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:12 am
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Originally Posted by xcalibir
If it continued on the path and went across Indonesia, would Indonesia pick up the plane's radar?
You'd presume so, but if they had surely they'd have mentioned it by now?

Does that bit of Indonesia have a lot of late night air traffic or is it likely the radar facilities were shut down for the night?
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:17 am
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Originally Posted by xcalibir
If it continued on the path and went across Indonesia, would Indonesia pick up the plane's radar?
Well, if Indonesian military radar had seen the aircraft and they had followed their operating procedures, investigated it, plotted its course, got on the phone... whatever they are meant to do.... they would be proudly announcing that to the world.

But they are silent, so we can assume:
they saw nothing,
their radar is not good enough to see much anyway,
they saw something but ignored it and are now too embarrassed to tell us.

- the same reactions as the Malaysian military in fact, but Indonesians are not under the spotlight right now.
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:18 am
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It's fascinating watching this process unfold. All of these countries have great political rivalries with each other, yet this tragedy has forced them all to cooperate. Perhaps this tragedy will yeild some positive long term results.
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:23 am
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Originally Posted by Canuck2012
It's fascinating watching this process unfold. All of these countries have great political rivalries with each other, yet this tragedy has forced them all to cooperate. Perhaps this tragedy will yeild some positive long term results.
Yes, absolutely.
I am thinking senior radar commanders get fired and new radar systems get installed.
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by exilencfc
You'd presume so, but if they had surely they'd have mentioned it by now?

Does that bit of Indonesia have a lot of late night air traffic or is it likely the radar facilities were shut down for the night?
If it was headed on the track they've been talking about, it would have overflown Aceh, which isn't really under the control of the Indonesian government...
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by Canuck2012
It's fascinating watching this process unfold. All of these countries have great political rivalries with each other, yet this tragedy has forced them all to cooperate. Perhaps this tragedy will yeild some positive long term results.
I hate to say this, but they can work more closely together if the Malaysian authorities are more forthcoming with information. As it is right now, Vietnam has already scaled back their SAR operations because they didn't get any answer from the Malaysians. There's way too many conflicting information right now, and I'm getting frustrated with cryptic information (if any at all) from the Malaysians.

http://english.cntv.cn/20140312/101624.shtml
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:27 am
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Originally Posted by Himeno
...it would have overflown Aceh, which isn't really under the control of the Indonesian government...
Care to explain further?
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by SQ319
I hate to say this, but they can work more closely together if the Malaysian authorities are more forthcoming with information. As it is right now, Vietnam has already scaled back their SAR operations because they didn't get any answer from the Malaysians. There's way too many conflicting information right now, and I'm getting frustrated with cryptic information (if any at all) from the Malaysians.

http://english.cntv.cn/20140312/101624.shtml
"widely circulated reports that it has found signals of the ill-fated flight and located the rear part of the Boeing 777 aircraft"
really?
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:31 am
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Originally Posted by SQ319
Care to explain further?
Aceh is to a large extent an autonomous part of Indonesia.
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:33 am
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Originally Posted by voske
Aceh is to a large extent an autonomous part of Indonesia.
Thanks for sharing, but shouldn't something like defence and radar systems be under national control???
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by SQ319
Care to explain further?
Aceh is more autonomous from the central government. It is the only area of Indonesia that runs completely on Sharia law. As part of the peace deal after the tsunami, they set up the current governmental structure.

Originally Posted by SQ319
Thanks for sharing, but shouldn't something like defence and radar systems be under national control???
Considering they were practically at war, I'm guessing there isn't a lot of military infrastructure there.

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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by SQ319
I hate to say this, but they can work more closely together if the Malaysian authorities are more forthcoming with information. As it is right now, Vietnam has already scaled back their SAR operations because they didn't get any answer from the Malaysians. There's way too many conflicting information right now, and I'm getting frustrated with cryptic information (if any at all) from the Malaysians.
Vietnam's equipement are rather limited in range, so after searching the immediate area close to their base, there really isn't much else they can do. However, they've got a good excuse to scale down and save face.
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 5:57 am
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Coastguards from India's remote Andaman and Nicobar Islands joined the airborne search on Wednesday for a missing Malaysian airliner, a senior official told Reuters.

A Dornier aircraft belonging to the coastguard set off at 2.30 p.m. local time to search the eastern side of the Andaman islands, on orders from New Delhi, said VSR Murthy, the inspector general of the coastguard service on the islands.

Reuters- India
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 6:00 am
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Anyone know if the British / us navy have been consulted, or know much about radar capabilities on Diego Garcia? Seems like if it was going southwesterly the end range puts it near the mid Indian Ocean islands(?)
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by mike1968
Anyone know if the British / us navy have been consulted, or know much about radar capabilities on Diego Garcia? Seems like if it was going southwesterly the end range puts it near the mid Indian Ocean islands(?)
Didn't the Brits rent those bases to the USA?
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