Mar 16, 2014, 5:32 am
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This is ARCHIVE WEEK #1 (8 - 14 March UTC) of older posts from the original thread, MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: now Search and Recovery [PLEASE SEE WIKI].
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MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: 8 - 14 Mar 2014 UTC - ARCHIVE WEEK #1
Mar 12, 2014, 4:09 am
#2521
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Malaysia military now says unidentified plot last seen on radar at 0215 am, 45 minutes after plane's transponder went dark.
Malaysia military still seeking corroboration as to whether this radar plot was MH370.
Malaysia military now says unidentified plot last seen on radar at 0215 am, 45 minutes after plane's transponder went dark.
Malaysia military still seeking corroboration as to whether this radar plot was MH370.
Mar 12, 2014, 4:10 am
#2522
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What really puzzles me - how it happened that multiple countries (or at least Malaysian) air defense systems detected the plane and people just ignored it...
Mar 12, 2014, 4:15 am
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I wouldn't mind betting that in times of peace, when not having a military exercise, the coastal radars are not closely watched. But they probably have recordings.
I'm no expert, but I suspect those radar installations are not so modern and not so perfect in their coverage and accuracy - but that's top secret.
It's a case of "when the tide goes out you can see who wasn't wearing a swimming costume"
I'm no expert, but I suspect those radar installations are not so modern and not so perfect in their coverage and accuracy - but that's top secret.
It's a case of "when the tide goes out you can see who wasn't wearing a swimming costume"
Mar 12, 2014, 4:17 am
#2524
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Malaysian authorities acknowledged they don't know in which direction missing jet was heading when it disappeared - @AFP
Mar 12, 2014, 4:23 am
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Information not in the public domain:
1. ACARS tracking data: did it also stop at the last known ATC radar contact point?
2. Military radar tracking of the aircraft after transponders went off - both positive or negative reports.
Answer to #1. They know it but describe it as "sensitive"
Answer to #2. We can only guess how cooperative, or otherwise, the various military forces are being in releasing and interpreting their radar data: what can they see? what did they see? What didn't they see? and what can't they see even if there is something there?
1. ACARS tracking data: did it also stop at the last known ATC radar contact point?
2. Military radar tracking of the aircraft after transponders went off - both positive or negative reports.
Answer to #1. They know it but describe it as "sensitive"
Answer to #2. We can only guess how cooperative, or otherwise, the various military forces are being in releasing and interpreting their radar data: what can they see? what did they see? What didn't they see? and what can't they see even if there is something there?
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Mar 12, 2014, 4:33 am
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Or am I missing something?
Mar 12, 2014, 4:38 am
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Wing strike causation?
(Remember: Torque=forceXdistance)
Could any engineering types hazard a guess at the wing root stress on a wing strike?
Mar 12, 2014, 4:38 am
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Was there any information on the Malaysian ATC asking the military to check their screens immediately after the transponder went off? Because this seems like if the pilot(s) for whichever reason decide to go stealth all they have to do is switch the communication devices off and they fly the plane anywhere with good chances nobody would know where because ATC wouldn't see them and the military would think they are 'just another civilian aircraft out there'.
Or am I missing something?
Or am I missing something?
Mar 12, 2014, 4:38 am
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The Guardian now has a new live updating site: MH370 search extended into Andaman Sea - live updates. Reports of Wednesday afternoon's press conference are beginning to appear.
The wikipost has been updated.
The wikipost has been updated.
Mar 12, 2014, 4:46 am
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The Guardian now has a new live updating site: MH370 search extended into Andaman Sea - live updates. Reports of Wednesday afternoon's press conference are beginning to appear.
"I think they just admitted that no one was watching their military radar"
I was imagining their military radar records are real time, but more probably they are time lapse snapshots that do not really show what is happening.
Mar 12, 2014, 4:53 am
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The Guardian now has a new live updating site: MH370 search extended into Andaman Sea - live updates. Reports of Wednesday afternoon's press conference are beginning to appear.
"...The way forward is to bring more experts to analyses both the civilian and the military data, in the east or in the west, on land or in the water. "
So after 5 days they have got nothing. They still don't know where to look.
Mar 12, 2014, 5:03 am
#2534
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If it continued on the path and went across Indonesia, would Indonesia pick up the plane's radar?
Mar 12, 2014, 5:11 am
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It does not point to sudden physical breakup.