New FS hotel plans (up to 2012)
Dec 9, 2009, 10:18 am
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http://www.fourseasons.com/beirut/
updated, taking reservations from jan 10, from $375/nt
post bear stearns i guess.
updated, taking reservations from jan 10, from $375/nt
Government claims it's resurrecting Lazarus (aka #Barbados Four Seasons Hotel project) from the dead - http://shar.es/1y6w2 - wcmb btamb
In H1 2008...Cancellation of the capacity expansion project at the Four Seasons Langkawi in Malaysia
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Dec 24, 2009, 5:06 pm
#138
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Well if FS plans include crisis rescue plans, heres some news on FS Dublin : http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...261234884.html
Dec 25, 2009, 7:07 am
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Dec 26, 2009, 2:25 pm
#140
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Well if FS plans include crisis rescue plans, heres some news on FS Dublin : http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...261234884.html
Mind you thats another article thats an example of the theorem that paper never refuses ink!
It says: "One informed source said occupancy has been as low as 40-50 per cent. The hotel has had to discount its prices to compete with other venues in the area, notably Seán Dunne’s D4 properties."
How on earth does a 4s compete with a group that sells rooms at between 39 and 59 euro's?
The customer bases will always be different.
Dec 26, 2009, 6:46 pm
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I hope they resolve the situation and that hotel survives.
Mind you thats another article thats an example of the theorem that paper never refuses ink!
It says: "One informed source said occupancy has been as low as 40-50 per cent. The hotel has had to discount its prices to compete with other venues in the area, notably Seán Dunne’s D4 properties."
How on earth does a 4s compete with a group that sells rooms at between 39 and 59 euro's?
The customer bases will always be different.
Mind you thats another article thats an example of the theorem that paper never refuses ink!
It says: "One informed source said occupancy has been as low as 40-50 per cent. The hotel has had to discount its prices to compete with other venues in the area, notably Seán Dunne’s D4 properties."
How on earth does a 4s compete with a group that sells rooms at between 39 and 59 euro's?
The customer bases will always be different.
Jan 16, 2010, 11:47 pm
#142
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Four seasons qingdao
A FS branded hotel has been confirmed for Qingdao, China . This is to be part of the Olympic Sailing Center. The foundation was laid on dec 22 ,2009.
http://www.shrelocation.com/Real_Est.../digest001.htm
http://www.shrelocation.com/Real_Est.../digest001.htm
Jan 17, 2010, 10:42 am
#143
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Is there a FS coming in Gurgaon, India? Some people have told me the big construction project near the Golf Course in Sector 42 will be a FS.
Jan 18, 2010, 10:01 am
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Jan 18, 2010, 10:38 am
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Guragon is a business travelers nightmare IMHO. Other than spending time with a few friends that I have that live there, the hotels are the only chance of having an enjoyable time. So the more the merrier...
Jan 18, 2010, 10:43 am
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I for one care a bit. The Leela is a bit better than decent and then there is the Trident.
Guragon is a business travelers nightmare IMHO. Other than spending time with a few friends that I have that live there, the hotels are the only chance of having an enjoyable time. So the more the merrier...
Guragon is a business travelers nightmare IMHO. Other than spending time with a few friends that I have that live there, the hotels are the only chance of having an enjoyable time. So the more the merrier...
Jan 20, 2010, 1:23 pm
#147
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FS Mumbai is owned by Jatia family and they are in process of developing for FS Goa
FS Gurgaon is owned by DLF but they have stalled their project until the economy gets better.
Other FS:
FS Hyderabad by Emaar MGF
FS Bangalore by Goldman Sachs & Century real estate
FS Kerala by Emaar MGF
FS New Delhi (rumoured DLF)
FS Pune ( rumoured )
also resorts are on the table
Jan 20, 2010, 2:01 pm
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claims only bangalore (goldman ETA, 4 acre plot, $150MM) is not suspended.
Responding to an email query sent to the Four Seasons Mumbai, the hotel spokesperson said, "The future developments for Four Seasons remain the same as before. In fact, the Mumbai hotel will have an additional tower in Phase 2, housing residential apartments, a gourmet restaurant, ballroom and high-end retail space. As for Goa, we are looking for a property but do not have any specific details yet."
http://www.fourseasons.com/mumbai/me..._planning.html
mentions phase 2 meeting facilities
Jan 20, 2010, 6:07 pm
#149
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I thought it was a fairly good effort from FS for their first India property though it lacks Indian themes . From what i have heard they are doing good business and there is talk for a second hotel once they are finished with the pvt residences.
FS Mumbai is owned by Jatia family and they are in process of developing for FS Goa
FS Gurgaon is owned by DLF but they have stalled their project until the economy gets better.
Other FS:
FS Hyderabad by Emaar MGF
FS Bangalore by Goldman Sachs & Century real estate
FS Kerala by Emaar MGF
FS New Delhi (rumoured DLF)
FS Pune ( rumoured )
also resorts are on the table
FS Mumbai is owned by Jatia family and they are in process of developing for FS Goa
FS Gurgaon is owned by DLF but they have stalled their project until the economy gets better.
Other FS:
FS Hyderabad by Emaar MGF
FS Bangalore by Goldman Sachs & Century real estate
FS Kerala by Emaar MGF
FS New Delhi (rumoured DLF)
FS Pune ( rumoured )
also resorts are on the table
How confident are you about the reliability of your sources and rumours?
It would be great if some of these hotels proceed.
Jan 21, 2010, 8:01 am
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FS in India appear to be committed to the business sector rather than the leisure trade, which is a great pity as India could really do with a good beach resort. I know FS tried to do this some years ago, in partnership with Captain Nair in Goa (I was there just as FS were kicked out!), but as we all know, this was disastrous - not FS's fault, though.
FS have very tough competition in India as its indigenous hotel groups are so good. I think they are wrong to purse the business route as locals will be more inclined to gravitate to the excellent Tridents, Oberois, Taj and Leelas of business hotels, whereas International guests will see the FS name and jump at it - wrongly, IMHO, if it is a business hotel like Worli.